Adding chains to help weightlifting acceleration?

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Marius_Hancu said:

I have some links from pubmed, not immediately available to me, that show this still doesn't work nearly as well as performing the task itself. It is still not possible to to correctly mimic the joint angles and and contraction speeds doing any explosive motion against more resistance than the sports activity itself requires. In other words, you can try and swing a ten pound racket all you want but that won't make your swing with a 13 ounce racket any faster.

Getting closer in weight does help, though. Swinging a 16 ounce racket will help swinging a 13 ounce racket, but more because you'll build up functional power at the initiation of the movement, and this extra speed continues throughout the motion. However, this does extremely closely mimic the joint angles and contraction speeds used by the motion itself.

The old saying still applies: Specificity is the key.
 

Marius_Hancu

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Midlife crisis said:
The old saying still applies: Specificity is the key.

Absolutely, but my impression is that one needs something else too. I'm convinced e.g. Agassi benefitted a lot say in his serving in his last years from his weights program (in leg power, upper body, etc).

Then, with a better related base, he just went out and practiced serving.
 

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Marius_Hancu said:
Absolutely, but my impression is that one needs something else too. I'm convinced e.g. Agassi benefitted a lot say in his serving in his last years from his weights program (in leg power, upper body, etc).

Then, with a better related base, he just went out and practiced serving.

This I agree with from personal experience, though the scientific literature doesn't always seem to agree. I think that often, the scientific literature, when trying to examine sports performance, either tend to choose untrained individuals so the effects can be most clearly seen, or tend to choose highly trained individuals, which many of us are not. Therefore, many adaptations which are not specific to the individual motion are still beneficial because we're not in a highly trained state, don't have the support from other core musculature, and would benefit from additional training of almost any sort.

A prime example of this would be the studies on weight training for endurance events like cycling. There is one study most often quoted by proponents (Hickson, et al, 1988) which used untrained individuals and showed marked improvements in time to exhaustion solely from weight training. Significantly more studies with elite athletes don't show these advantages, possibly because an elite athlete already has sufficient training load and is muscularly developed to the level and proportion very close to optimal for the task.

This all being said, for the average weekend athlete who might peruse this, I don't see how a method like this is going to be substantially better at helping a sports specific performance. The exact specificity still can't be there and if the idea is to simply build a better base, it seems there are going to be easier ways to accomplish nearly the same goal by traditional means.
 

Marius_Hancu

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Yes, it is very difficult to make a study which applies equally to a set of athletes. They are all individuals with their pluses and minuses.

Continuing on Agassi, he was physically weak at the beginning of his career, in terms of strength, thus he reacted positively to a training program which probably had large portions of weight work (we never know, we weren't there ... but this is what got out).

A similar program applied to Sampras wouldn't have probably worked, he was quite well developed in terms of strength already.
 

AngeloDS

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I never thought that one with the chain, where you do vertical jumps. I'm going to start doing that. Except I'm going to modify it by jumping forward instead of straight up so I can improve my serves.
 
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