Albert Einstein wasn't a genius. His theory has been proven wrong

Einstein was average

don't believe the hype. My estimate of him from youtube vids is that his IQ is around 100. Nothing special.
 

Agent Orynge

Professional
Will we now have Einstein Awards for general stupidity ?

You and I may be on the same wavelength.

"Proving" Einstein wrong does not undermine his work as a whole, nor does it mean that he wasn't a genius. If that were the case, anyone could have conceptualized his theories - perhaps even OP. OP's thread title bears strong resemblance to the sort of arguments religious fantics spew to counter Darwinian theory. Sure, there may be hiccoughs, but that's no reason to discard evolution entirely, nor disparage the scientist and his work. The same applies here.

The content of post #1 is interesting, but the title is exceedingly trollish.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Going back in time would be impossible (see grandfather paradox).
But what about near-real time communication across huge distances. Instead of waiting 20 years for a radio signal from a planet 20 LY's away, and another 20 for sending a reply.... using FTL particles you could send it in a fraction of the time, almost real-time ... without the situation of the message arriving before it was sent.
 
http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/particles-breaking-light-speed-would-einstein-be-a-believer

ForexTV.com (New York) by Timothy Kelly


During his lifetime, Albert Einstein had many detractors of his theories. After his death, his theories were as immutable as the moon and stars. That is, until a group of Physicists reported that they observed and measured particles that exceeded the speed of light.


Naturally, the chorus of skeptics was resurrected on a grand scale when Einstein’s theory of special relativity was claimed to be challenged by a group of scientists who claim to have came across their discovery by accident.

The so-called neutrino particle (sub-atomic particle) has after all broken the most respected law of the physical law and confounds the very foundation of modern physics. Scientists collaborating between France's National Institute for Nuclear and Particle Physics Research and Italy's Gran Sasso National Laboratory — initiated a subterrainian neutrino beam 454 miles from Geneva to Italy.

To their complete surprise, they recorded its speed at 60 nanoseconds faster than light. That is only sixty billionths of a second, but in the world of physics it may as well be an eternity.

The implications of this experiment actually being true are enormous, including notions of time travel. However, many in the scientific community including Alvaro De Rujula, a theoretical physicist at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN outside Geneva, said he is relatively certain that the readings will prove to be inaccurate and caused by human error.

This is particularly ironic in view of Einstein’s own words about skeptics, ” Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I so badly want this to be true. Otherwise the vast reaches of space will always be inaccessible to us.

OTOH, if this is true, some life form elsewhere would have found a way to travel faster than c by now. They'd be here by now in their tourist ships.
 

spaceman_spiff

Hall of Fame
don't believe the hype. My estimate of him from youtube vids is that his IQ is around 100. Nothing special.

That's the classic mistake. You have to adjust for the video effect. Everyone looks stupider on video than they do in real life.

Go take a video of yourself and check it out. :)
 

Netzroller

Semi-Pro
Einstein can't be GOAT, he never won the true grand Slam (unified field theory). Also, he was only great on two surfaces (Gravitation, Electromagnetic Force), he didn't dominate the others (String Force, Weak Force).

haha, this board really cracks me up sometimes...:)


First of all, it still needs massive amounts of verification. This is such a huge "result" that it'll need to be reproduced hundreds upon hundreds of times for it to be interesting.
This sums it up pretty well. Most likely it was an error in the experiment.
 

ben123

Professional
...Einstein’s own words about skeptics, ” Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

great quote
 

chrischris

G.O.A.T.
That is more current than ever.. we have a guy praying for rain ruinning for gop candidacy for cryin out loud .. how well this applies to that .
 

Agent Orynge

Professional
That is more current than ever.. we have a guy praying for rain ruinning for gop candidacy for cryin out loud .. how well this applies to that .

Here here! If ever there was a reason to reelect Obama, it's Rick Perry. Christ, the things that come out of Texas these days...
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
Here here! If ever there was a reason to reelect Obama, it's Rick Perry. Christ, the things that come out of Texas these days...

At least he doesn't believe in evolution. I'd rather follow Satan than believed we evolved from Primeapes! I mean, there's no real evidence to prove that we evolved from such base Pokemon!
 

OTMPut

Hall of Fame
theories about the physical world are at best only "provisionally" true. that is the inductive limitation we will have to live with.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
There was always something fishy about him. As long as Marie Curie gets the credit for discovering polonium and radium, I feel that it’s OK, you know?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
theories about the physical world are at best only "provisionally" true. that is the inductive limitation we will have to live with.

As long as they explain what we encounter, that is OK. As we move into unknown areas, like black holes, the old ones may only remain as an approximation or be valid only in the old areas. The main thing is that they are better than any other theory. Lots of people don't get that. They think that theories should always be correct. They only need to be the best effort made by us so far. Like a 3.5 player is closer to a pro than a philosopher who plays on the word "tennis" in his imagination and says whatever he wants.
 
Findings indicate Einstein was right about relativity

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15426766,00.html

A new Denmark-based study on galaxy clusters provides more evidence for Einstein's general theory of relativity – which would mean that mysterious 'dark energy' probably does exist, although this has yet to be proven.

Einstein was right about gravity – according to a newly published study from the University of Copenhagen.

In a paper published today in the journal Nature, researchers at the Dark Cosmology Center at the Neils Bohr Institute presented new findings examining how clusters of galaxies affect the light that leaves them.

Galaxy clusters are groupings of galaxies, held together by gravity. The combined gravitational force of such galaxies affects the wavelength of photons, a phenomenon known as "redshift."

In addition to upholding Einstein's ideas about gravity, the findings also add ammunition to the concept of "dark energy," the force behind the accelerating expansion of the universe. While Einstein's theories have continued to hold up over the last century - despite last week's highly unusual reports of possible faster-than-light neutrinos - they have never before been confirmed on such a large scale.

The Hubble space telescope was named after Edwin Hubble, who discovered that redshift increases with distance

Statistical redshift analysis

Henk Hoekstra, a professor at the Leiden Observatory in the Netherlands, explained redshift through something with which we are all familiar: the Doppler effect.

If an ambulance is moving away from you, the pitch of siren goes down. Light does the same thing – moving away, it appears red. This is known as redshift.

"In this case, what they're measuring is light leaving a cluster," said Hoekstra, who was not involved with the study.

The international team of researchers in Copenhagen used data on 8,000 galaxy clusters, gathered by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey.

Researchers analyzed publicly available data on galaxy spectrums, compiled by the Sloan Foundation from optical telescopes in New Mexico, in the United States.

By stacking different classes of data, the researchers were able to show the effects of redshift.

German physicist Albert Einstein regretted adding the 'dark energy' constant. "The important thing was statistics," said Radek Wojtak, a Polish post-doctoral researcher and lead author of the report.

"So far, we've had tests on white dwarves or black holes, also in our solar system. But these are extremely small scales," Wotjak told Deutsche Welle.

This statistical method – the first test of its kind to be applied on a cosmological scale – reflects both strength and weakness, said Hoekstra.

"It's a very elegant thing they've done - but the statistical uncertainties are fairly large," Hoekstra told Deutsche Welle.

The limited data set constrains its statistical power, Hoekstra said. "It's consistent with general relativity, but you can't rule out the other models."

Kick it like Einstein

Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, developed in the early part of last century, describes gravity as a metric property governed by certain equations.

Dark matter and dark energy are two building blocks of Einstein's theory.

Based on measurements of the universe's mass, scientists largely agree about the existence of dark matter, so-called because it neither emits nor scatters light, nor is detectable in any direct manner.

Wotjak said the Dark Cosmology Centre's research has contributed to proving Einstein's theory, providing "very strong evidence for the existence of dark matter."

"Probably we can answer this question in 10 to 20 years," Wotjak said. Hoekstra added that scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Switzerland may actually create a small amount of dark matter soon.

A decision on whether to approve the Euclid satellite rests with the European Space Agency
To make his equations work out, Einstein inserted a constant to balance gravity. This constant, known as "dark energy," has not yet been measured, and remains one of the biggest questions to date in the field of astrophysics.

"Nobody predicted the existence of dark energy, it's a big problem," Hoekstra said, adding that Einstein later regretted inserting this constant.

Dark energy plays a critical role in the universe's expansion – something which is now believed to be accelerating.

Other theories get around the issue of dark energy, for example research indicating that what looks like acceleration of an expanding universe is actually an illusion.

More data needed

Hoekstra said that Euclid, one model of satellite the European Space Agency is considering building, is to further test this new result by looking at how structures such as galaxies form in the universe.

Hoekstra added that he's been putting considerable energy into determining what the Euclid satellite would require. A decision on it is expected next week.

Author: Sonya Angelica Diehn
Editor: Cyrus Farivar
 

chrischris

G.O.A.T.
Here here! If ever there was a reason to reelect Obama, it's Rick Perry. Christ, the things that come out of Texas these days...

He and others of his views are a bit like the orphane asking for sympathy when he has shot his parents.
He and others in denial will have to learn how to live with the system they have created.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Dark energy is the GOAT

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