All of you familiar with JayCee stringing method

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glpsace

Rookie
I own a SW ML90 dropweight constant-pull with SW double and triple flying clamps.

Since most of my frames are Yonex, I always string 2 pieces. I tried a few methods and finally settled on Jaycee method but with a few variants.

1) Jaycee strings the mains with less tension than crosses. I do the opposite since until a few years ago that was what Yonex recommended for their frames. Plus this way I increase the frame´s sweetspot.

2) For starting the mains I use Yulittle starting method with flying clamp and a starting clamp on the outside of the frame (so I don´t double-pull), I also start the crosses the same way and leave C1 last to tie it off with another parnell Knot so that I will have 4 equal finishing knots.

For everything else I do Jaycee way.

But I have a question regarding looping the final mains and also the final crosses. Since I mostly use 16 gauge multis, I´m afraid that those strings on the outside of the frame while playing, might be more exposed then usual (due to looping strings) and therefore get easily damaged compromising the all stringbed.

When using multi strings should I keep using the looping strings method?

For all of you experienced stringers and "connaisseurs" of Jaycee method... please advice.

Thank you
 
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sidzej

Rookie
If you speak French, you would be better off discussing Jaycee's method at french "tennis-classim" forum. There is a special thread dedicated to Jaycee's method, with more people using it. I don't think Jaycee's method is well known on TW forums.

If you happen to live in Paris area, I would recommend you to get one private lesson from Jaycee and he will answer all your questions, while stringing one of your frames on his machine. John (Jaycee) is a very knowledgeable and experienced stringer (20+ years of stringing).

PS> I am not sure to understand your question about "looping", but I am using Jaycee's method without any issues. The only thing I change and adapt, is the tension difference between mains & crosses (based on the strings I use).
 
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glpsace

Rookie
Ok thank you. I live in Portugal and my french is a little rusty, but manage to understand it perfectly so will check the forum you describe.
Anyway, I have contacted Jaycee and he sent me a detailed PDF file with very detailed explamations and over 80 pictures. That was awesome!
By looping I mean when you jump the 7th main and then come back in the end so that the string will be closer to the tie-off grommet. On the outside, the configuration is usually diferent from the regular pattern and therefore to my eye the string seems more vulnerable on the bumper guard to possible damage when scratching the frame on the floor, for example.
 
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sidzej

Rookie
Ok, now I know what you mean. I do the looping all the time (on the mains) and I haven't noticed any damage caused by friction. No worries.

I would be also interested to have a look at the detailed PDF file, as I have only the standard 2 pager (with only a few pictures). Can you send it to:
sidzej at gmail dot com.

Thanks.
 
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glpsace

Rookie
Forgot to say that text is in French, but with all those pictures I guess you even don´t need to read the text;)
 
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sidzej

Rookie
Thank you Gian Luca, I received your email with the PDF. It would be easier if it was in English, but I need to practice French anyway (as I am living in France now) :) It looks very good and thanks to all of the images I can even remember all the points emphasized by Jaycee during my "introductory lesson" with him.
 
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glpsace

Rookie
Well, he is a reference in France. One of the best stringers there. He has more than 20 years experience professionally and many say it was him who first introduced the concept of an Hybrid. Don´t know if it is true or not but from what I have read he sure knows what he is talking about. People may agree or not with his methods and points of vue but he sure has many followers... especially in France and Europe.
 
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Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
"Looping" I think is a term when more than one string is forced into a channel or groove in the grommets. This forces one to stick up (on some frames) above the level of the frame, thereby exposing it to being abrased when the racket scrapes the ground. This can be of particular concern with Babolats and some Yonexes which have the woofer type grommets.
 
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aussie

Professional
As a matter of interest, JayCee is an Australia named John Elliot who has lived in France for some time. He has garnered quite a reputation both for being a stringing pro who thinks somewhat out of the box and a very testy individual who doesn't tolerate what he considers criticism easily. That said, he is very interesting and has very definite views well worth listening to. If my memory serves, he is or was Marcus Baghdatis' stringer.

If you need the pdf, I have it (saved on my other computer) plus an interesting article on John Elliot. They are in French, but the stringing instruction article has very good photographs and if you have reasonable school level French, you'll understand enough to get the gist.
 
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glpsace

Rookie
Steve Huff said:
"Looping" I think is a term when more than one string is forced into a channel or groove in the grommets. This forces one to stick up (on some frames) above the level of the frame, thereby exposing it to being abrased when the racket scrapes the ground. This can be of particular concern with Babolats and some Yonexes which have the woofer type grommets.
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That is exactily what I wanted to say. Thank you to explain it so clearly!
 
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glpsace

Rookie
aussie said:
As a matter of interest, JayCee is an Australia named John Elliot who has lived in France for some time. He has garnered quite a reputation both for being a stringing pro who thinks somewhat out of the box and a very testy individual who doesn't tolerate what he considers criticism easily. That said, he is very interesting and has very definite views well worth listening to. If my memory serves, he is or was Marcus Baghdatis' stringer.

If you need the pdf, I have it (saved on my other computer) plus an interesting article on John Elliot. They are in French, but the stringing instruction article has very good photographs and if you have reasonable school level French, you'll understand enough to get the gist.
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Thank you for the much clearer explanation. I just gave my impression from the threads I have been reading and you know those can get confusing sometimes. I knew he was autralian (that is why is english is excellent).
 
bad_call

bad_call

Legend
sidzej said:
If you speak French, you would be better off discussing Jaycee's method at french "tennis-classim" forum. There is a special thread dedicated to Jaycee's method, with more people using it. I don't think Jaycee's method is well known on TW forums.

If you happen to live in Paris area, I would recommend you to get one private lesson from Jaycee and he will answer all your questions, while stringing one of your frames on his machine. John (Jaycee) is a very knowledgeable and experienced stringer (20+ years of stringing).

PS> I am not sure to understand your question about "looping", but I am using Jaycee's method without any issues. The only thing I change and adapt, is the tension difference between mains & crosses (based on the strings I use).
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la meme maniere por moui.
 
Irvin

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
glpsace said:
I own a SW ML90 dropweight constant-pull with SW double and triple flying clamps.

Since most of my frames are Yonex, I always string 2 pieces. I tried a few methods and finally settled on Jaycee method but with a few variants.

1) Jaycee strings the mains with less tension than crosses. I do the opposite since until a few years ago that was what Yonex recommended for their frames. Plus this way I increase the frame´s sweetspot.

2) For starting the mains I use Yulittle starting method with flying clamp and a starting clamp on the outside of the frame (so I don´t double-pull), I also start the crosses the same way and leave C1 last to tie it off with another parnell Knot so that I will have 4 equal finishing knots.

For everything else I do Jaycee way.

But I have a question regarding looping the final mains and also the final crosses. Since I mostly use 16 gauge multis, I´m afraid that those strings on the outside of the frame while playing, might be more exposed then usual (due to looping strings) and therefore get easily damaged compromising the all stringbed.

When using multi strings should I keep using the looping strings method?

For all of you experienced stringers and "connaisseurs" of Jaycee method... please advice.

Thank you
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Which Yonex frames are you stringing? Also since you said most what are the other frames you use this looping for?

Irvin
 
junk

junk

Semi-Pro
glpsace said:
Ok thank you. I live in Portugal and my french is a little rusty, but manage to understand it perfectly so will check the forum you describe.
Anyway, I have contacted Jaycee and he sent me a detailed PDF file with very detailed explamations and over 80 pictures. That was awesome!
By looping I mean when you jump the 7th main and then come back in the end so that the string will be closer to the tie-off grommet. On the outside, the configuration is usually diferent from the regular pattern and therefore to my eye the string seems more vulnerable on the bumper guard to possible damage when scratching the frame on the floor, for example.
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glpsace,

could you please send me the pdf as well tennistgk@gmail.com .

many thanks!
 
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