Any good vooks on English Grammar, sentence structure, punctuation?

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Nope, never even heard of them. Not a reflection on whether they are good or bad, just outside my sphere of experience.

McGuffey Readers were a series of graded primers for grade levels 1-6. They were widely used as textbooks in American schools from the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century, and are still used today in some private schools and in homeschooling.

It is estimated that at least 120 million copies of McGuffey's Readers were sold between 1836 and 1960, placing its sales in a category with the Bible and Webster's Dictionary.[1] Since 1961, they have continued to sell at a rate of some 30,000 copies a year.[1] Only the Ray's Arithmetic series (1834-1913) matched it in popularity, written by a colleague of McGuffey's and begun in 1834.[1]

-- Wikipedia

The Readers

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/14640/14640-pdf.pdf
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
I learned both British and American versions of English grammar as a student, and still tend to mix the two. I still have Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style," but punctuation is always evolving. The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage seems like a good reference, and I will probably buy it on Amazon.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I learned both British and American versions of English grammar as a student, and still tend to mix the two. I still have Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style," but punctuation is always evolving. The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage seems like a good reference, and I will probably buy it on Amazon.
So Americans haz like grammar?!!!
K thx bai
 
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Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Basically to know the components of a sentence, when to put a comma before an AND, what types of dependent clauses there are, etc. The type of thing you need to know for the English portion of the ACT. Not a huge treatise, something aproachable but effective.

P.S. This is not for me, although I'm seeking redemption from my infinitive splitting ways. ;)

Good vooks eh?

 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
where even @Sentinel (usually a rather benign and relatively kind-hearted troll) is making fun of my split infinitives, as my grammar has descended to abysmal levels.
That guilty pup avatar of yours makes me want to jump into the computer screen and give that guy a hug and a smoochie and squeeze him within inches of his/her life :D

But I can't tell you how joyous that pup makes me every time.
 
I learned both British and American versions of English grammar as a student, and still tend to mix the two. I still have Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style," but punctuation is always evolving. The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage seems like a good reference, and I will probably buy it on Amazon.
I had no idea Brits had a different Grammar. Different expressions and vocabulary yes, but I didn't know Grammar could be different.
 
That guilty pup avatar of yours makes me want to jump into the computer screen and give that guy a hug and a smoochie and squeeze him within inches of his/her life :D

But I can't tell you how joyous that pup makes me every time.
HAHA. Yeah, I don't know what he did, but by the looks of it he feels he must be in big trouble. :D
 
Does me and my come under grammar.
Like saying "Where's me car ?"
"I'll have me some of that?"
Yeah, but when Brits say "Where's me car?" I think they are just pronouncing it like that, but in reality they are saying "Where is my car?"

"I'll have me some of that" is used a lot in the US, and I believe technically it's incorrect.

Now, if you'll excuse my French, I'm going to watch me some Sureshs GIFs. :eek:
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru

I took that one in a grad program back in the 1990s. It was a required course and most people took it last as most seemed to hate it. I actually loved the topic and it gave me quite an appreciation for the connection between Languages and Mathematics. It might be covered in undergrad or grad these days under Theory of Computation. I think that my son had some exposure to it in undergrad.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Did you guys take a course in computer language theory?

The language with the most rigorous grammatical structure from a formal language point of view is Sanskrit. However, this also make it very difficult to learn and use, which is why it was taken over by regional dialects.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
The language with the most rigorous grammatical structure from a formal language point of view is Sanskrit. However, this also make it very difficult to learn and use, which is why it was taken over by regional dialects.

Is this stuff optional in CS programs now? I kind of expected that all of the CS types here would have taken the course.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
I had no idea Brits had a different Grammar. Different expressions and vocabulary yes, but I didn't know Grammar could be different.

An example:

Rusty Shackleford said, "I am enchanted by the warmth and humour of the coach from San Diego".

vs.

Rusty Shackleford said, "I am enchanted by the warmth and humor of the coach from San Diego."

Also, there are shifting standards in both countries, an example being whether to italicize a film title or to put it in quotation marks.
 

Vcore89

Talk Tennis Guru
6.39 × 10^26 grams. newtons of mars w.r.t. betelgeuse at distance of 1 AU: 7.54× 10^-11 newtons.

that work i did will cost u 5 french opens pls. if u dont have any i will accept them from someone who has a bunch to spare

Charge to Rafa or collect from Bjorn [he's attempted to sell The Cup before, who's to prevent him from departing with his haul of La Coupe des Mousquetaires?].;)
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
After college.

The professor in my son's course was annoyed at the lethargy in the class and one student asked "What is this stuff useful for?", at which point my son explained why it's useful. His dad happened to be working in a compiler group at the time.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
The professor in my son's course was annoyed at the lethargy in the class and one student asked "What is this stuff useful for?", at which point my son explained why it's useful. His dad happened to be working in a compiler group at the time.

Who was the dad?
 
He bought it thinking it had Tomato recipes. He's been using it for his Tomato Uttapam every Friday morning.
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sureshs

Bionic Poster
You should be reading the Periya Puranam and not all this stuff.


I won't be around in your next life to guide you.

The Periya Puranam (Tamil: பெரிய‌ புராண‌ம்), that is, the great purana or epic, sometimes called Tiruttontarpuranam ("Tiru-Thondar-Puranam", the Purana of the Holy Devotees), is a Tamil poetic account depicting the legendary lives of the sixty-three Nayanars, the canonical poets of Tamil Shaivism. It was compiled during the 12th century by Sekkizhar. It provides evidence of trade with West Asia[1] The Periya Puranam is part of the corpus of Shaiva canonical works.

Sekkizhar compiled and wrote the Periya Puranam or the Great Purana, (the life stories of the sixty-three Shaiva Nayanars, poets of the God Shiva) who composed the liturgical poems of the Tirumurai, and was later himself canonised and the work became part of the sacred canon.[2] Among all the hagiographic Puranas in Tamil, Sekkizhar's Tiruttondar Puranam or Periyapuranam, composed during the rule of Kullottonga Chola II (1133-1150) stands first.[3]

Sekkizhar was a poet and the chief minister in the court of the Chola King, Kulothunga Chola II.[4] Kullottonga Chola II, king Anabaya Chola, was a staunch devotee of Lord Siva Natraja at Chidambaram. He continued the reconstruction of the center of Tamil Saivism that was begun by his ancestors. However Kullottonga II was also enchanted by the Jain courtly epic, Jivaka Cintamani[4] an epic of erotic flavour (sringara rasa[4]) whose hero, Jivaka, combines heroics and erotics to marry eight damsels and gain a kingdom. In the end he realises the transiency of possessions, renounces his kingship and finally attains Nirvana by prolonged austerity (tapas).[4]

In order to wean Kullonttonga Chola II from the heretical Jivaka Cintamani, Sekkizhar undertook the task of writing the Periyapuranam.[2] His poetic abilities earned him the title ″Uthama Chola Pulavar″.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
The Periya Puranam (Tamil: பெரிய‌ புராண‌ம்), that is, the great purana or epic, sometimes called Tiruttontarpuranam ("Tiru-Thondar-Puranam", the Purana of the Holy Devotees), is a Tamil poetic account depicting the legendary lives of the sixty-three Nayanars, the canonical poets of Tamil Shaivism.
You should also read books like the Tirumantiram.
You have no idea what you are depriving yourself of, trying to brainwash yourself with all this materialistic nonsense.

https://www.himalayanacademy.com/media/books/tirumantiram/web/Tantra_6.html
 
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