Anyone else do H.I.T. ?

[Nosoupforyou]

For the past month or two I've been doing something called high intensity training, which is basically doing one set of 12 excersises and going until failure on each set. I have found that this has been much more effective than the normal 2-3 set routines. I have gained alot of weight in muscle over the past two months, and the best part is that this type of lifting only requires 30 minutes 3 times a week. I'm wondering if anyone else does this type of weightlifting since it is not really mainstream?

 

[Marius_Hancu]

For the past month or two I've been doing something called high intensity training, which is basically doing one set of 12 excersises and going until failure on each set. I have found that this has been much more effective than the normal 2-3 set routines. I have gained alot of weight in muscle over the past two months, and the best part is that this type of lifting only requires 30 minutes 3 times a week. I'm wondering if anyone else does this type of weightlifting since it is not really mainstream?

Yes, HIT as per:
http://hit.dozer.com/faq.htm

As a matter of fact, I am using it in alternation with the classical training. Felt it's very good. However, I am using it not necessarily at a threshold of 12. I am varying the threshold depending on the exercise. In some I have 8, in some I have 20, thus going for endurance.

But I don't do it as intense as per the FAQ above)

Also, I am not eating enough to gain weight. My purpose is to keep my weight and good physical shape and beat from time to time my PRs.

 

[Ronaldo]

Soup, is this similar to the Nautilus training principles, http://www.fencingonline.com/academy/strength_training_program.htm

 

[Nosoupforyou]

Soup, is this similar to the Nautilus training principles, http://www.fencingonline.com/academy/strength_training_program.htm

Yeah the founder of H.I.T., Arthur Jones, was the creator of the Nautilus line. If you want to learn more about it I would read http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...102-8570167-0934514?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Ellington Darden, the author, is one of Jones's successors, and the book has alot of great stories about Jones and famous bodybuilders such as Arnold, the Mentzers, Oliva, etc.

Marius, what are your 8 and 20 exercise routines, I would like to try them. You make a good point, HIT is designed to gain muscle mass so alot of tennis players wouldn't be found using it, but I was just curious.

 

[Phil]

Yeah the founder of H.I.T., Arthur Jones, was the creator of the Nautilus line. If you want to learn more about it I would read http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...102-8570167-0934514?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Ellington Darden, the author, is one of Jones's successors, and the book has alot of great stories about Jones and famous bodybuilders such as Arnold, the Mentzers, Oliva, etc.

Marius, what are your 8 and 20 exercise routines, I would like to try them. You make a good point, HIT is designed to gain muscle mass so alot of tennis players wouldn't be found using it, but I was just curious.

http://www.cyberpump.com/

Check this site out-I've read it for years...it's a bit dogmatic for my tastes, but I usually manage to pick and choose the advice/information that makes sense. Also, keep in mind that Arnold, Mentzer, et al. didn't come by their physiques primarily by using H.I.T. methods...they used chemical methods. If you play tennis you don't want to look like that anyway.

 

[Nosoupforyou]

http://www.cyberpump.com/

Check this site out-I've read it for years...it's a bit dogmatic for my tastes, but I usually manage to pick and choose the advice/information that makes sense. Also, keep in mind that Arnold, Mentzer, et al. didn't come by their physiques primarily by using H.I.T. methods...they used chemical methods. If you play tennis you don't want to look like that anyway.

No argument that it wasn't completely due to H.I.T. They were genetically gifted as well as probable steroid users, I just mentioned them because the book had some interesting stories regarding their training.

 

[Phil]

"Probable"? Nosoupforyou, there's no need to tiptoe around the subject here. They were on the juice, big time. All of them. Mike Mentzer (and his brother) both died last year-I think they were in their late 40's or early 50's...I don't know HOW they died, but at that age, I can guess that the effects of prolonged anabolic steroid use had "something" to do with it. Generally, the training routines of these so-called athletes, and others that you find in the back of rags like "Muscle & Fitness" are totally inappropriate and inapplicable to non-steroid users-that is if you take the routines as they are. One can, however, modify them.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Marius, what are your 8 and 20 exercise routines, I would like to try them.

Well, basically it's a variation of:
http://www.jeanpaul.com/standard.html
doing only one set (after a warmup set) to failure

Also, on the days when I don't have legs, I am leading off with a cardio of 30-40min (treadmill, bike, rowing). On the days with legs, I am only using a 6min warmup.

 

[Nosoupforyou]

"Probable"? Nosoupforyou, there's no need to tiptoe around the subject here. They were on the juice, big time. All of them. Mike Mentzer (and his brother) both died last year-I think they were in their late 40's or early 50's...I don't know HOW they died, but at that age, I can guess that the effects of prolonged anabolic steroid use had "something" to do with it. Generally, the training routines of these so-called athletes, and others that you find in the back of rags like "Muscle & Fitness" are totally inappropriate and inapplicable to non-steroid users-that is if you take the routines as they are. One can, however, modify them.

Both died of heart attacks, heart disease was rampant in the Mentzer line. I completely agree that the workouts found in those magazines are totally ineffective. The training stories I mentioned were more focused on the history of H.I.T. rather than actual exercise routines or advice on how to lift.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Both died of heart attacks, heart disease was rampant in the Mentzer line..

Was Arnie part of that line? He certainly had the heart problem ....

 

[Ronaldo]

Marius, his heart problem was congenital, born with a bicuspid rather than a tricuspid aortic valve. He had it replaced with a biological, pig valve. http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,974,00.html Once it starts to leak, replacement is needed. However, I am sure he is no longer lifting heavy, more like Frank Zane's approach, http://www.frankzane.com/. Phil, that's a physique for any tennis player.

 

[hampshire6]

HIT is a joke. Mike was a weirdo. If you want a few good programs I can find some for you. No offence to you at all. There is just way better stuff out there. Going to failure is not suck a good idea.

 

[CoASH]

HIT is a piece of turd
if you want to debate this msg me and i'll post a proper lifting forum to discuss on