Archery vs. Shooting?

Which of these competitions do you like more?


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Vegito

Hall of Fame
Which of those competitions that are included in the Olympic Games do you think is better? Or which one do you like more?
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Don't care for either but care for shooting less than archery.

But for some reason in winter Olympics I will the watch heck out of bi-athalon.

Maybe they should do a running biatalon run a mile or two then shoot the bow. if you miss the shot you have to run a penalty lap or do some pushups or something.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Don't care for either but care for shooting less than archery.

But for some reason in winter Olympics I will the watch heck out of bi-athalon.

Maybe they should do a running biatalon run a mile or two then shoot the bow. if you miss the shot you have to run a penalty lap or do some pushups or something.
They should also have to chug a beer, do 15 kipping muscle-ups, and butcher a hog. Whoever remains would have a tribal council and vote the other competitors off. After it's down to 3 finalists, the audience votes. Donald Trump should get the final say.

It would be mega-awesome-licious.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
^^^

I was all in until you said Trump.

His track record of determining winners of competitions is spotty (ref. Rivers, Joan). Find a better replacement
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
What is your criteria for "better"?
Archery is a sport nowadaze, very few hunt using bow.
At least shooting, you can still do it in movie theater's and freeways.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Hey, just being reaistic.
What good is archery in the real world?
I carried for 7 years as a night Taxi driver in San Francisco, so I know it's indeed useful to learn to shoot.
Yes, I've owned several compound bows, and used to practice at the San Francisco Archery range, which included several stations shooting over water, up to 125 yards, uphill and downhill, next to the SF shooting range, where I competed in Practical Pistol and IPSC Combat shoots.
I've also shot at the Sacramento 350 yard rifle range, until it closed in 1983.
 

mightyrick

Legend
I think both can be neat, but find archery slightly more interesting.

I think a really cool archery competition would be if they dropped all the high-tech gear and just went purely old-school. Old school bows, arrows, flights, and tips. Translate that to shooting. Let the shooting competition be muskets, packing, cap and ball.

I'd have the beer and popcorn out watching those kinds of competitions for hours.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I think both can be neat, but find archery slightly more interesting.

I think a really cool archery competition would be if they dropped all the high-tech gear and just went purely old-school. Old school bows, arrows, flights, and tips. Translate that to shooting. Let the shooting competition be muskets, packing, cap and ball.

I'd have the beer and popcorn out watching those kinds of competitions for hours.

Better have the competitors run into the woods. Make them kill a bird that they will then use the feathers for as fletching of the arrows. Make the arrows and the bow. Run back to the range and fire your shots. Basic Biathalon pentaly rules will apply for missed shots. Fletching is required and everything must be made by hand with provided tools.

Give them an old school musket with 2 shots to kill the bird. A hatchet and knife to make the arrows.

Now that's an event
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Fletching is required

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LeeD

Bionic Poster
What good is tennis or surfing in the real world?
You got me on the tennis thing.
But Surfing..... I lived 3 blocks from the ocean until I hit 31. Nice to know the rip tides, currents, and tide heights. Learned from surfing. Did you know, for the San Francisco Fireman's Coastal Rescue Squad, they don't allow San Francisco surfer's to be on the squad? EVERY single surfer is posted inland, away from the cliff and surf rescue stations. Why is that? Because they would automatically know more than the station chief about rescue in the surf, and all have climbed up and down Lands End, where 75% of cliff rescue occur.
Kinda like, on the US Coast Guard surf rescue teams, EVERYONE is from inland, and guys born near the coast get stationed in lakes and rivers.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
You got me on the tennis thing.
But Surfing..... I lived 3 blocks from the ocean until I hit 31. Nice to know the rip tides, currents, and tide heights. Learned from surfing. Did you know, for the San Francisco Fireman's Coastal Rescue Squad, they don't allow San Francisco surfer's to be on the squad? EVERY single surfer is posted inland, away from the cliff and surf rescue stations. Why is that? Because they would automatically know more than the station chief about rescue in the surf, and all have climbed up and down Lands End, where 75% of cliff rescue occur.
Kinda like, on the US Coast Guard surf rescue teams, EVERYONE is from inland, and guys born near the coast get stationed in lakes and rivers.
You got me on the surfing thing.
 

MathGeek

Hall of Fame
Hey, just being reaistic.
What good is archery in the real world?
I carried for 7 years as a night Taxi driver in San Francisco, so I know it's indeed useful to learn to shoot.
Yes, I've owned several compound bows, and used to practice at the San Francisco Archery range, which included several stations shooting over water, up to 125 yards, uphill and downhill, next to the SF shooting range, where I competed in Practical Pistol and IPSC Combat shoots.
I've also shot at the Sacramento 350 yard rifle range, until it closed in 1983.

I took up archery some years back because the state I lived in had a four month long deer season for archery and a 1 week deer gun season. And the 100 acres I was farming had tons of deer.

I tell you, you will learn more about deer hunting from the 1st deer you kill with a bow than by killing 100 with a firearm.

Deer really need to be within 15-25 yards to kill them reliably with a bow, so it is more about getting close than archery skill at longer ranges.

Other than deer hunting regs, I don't have much use for archery though. Even without hunting, I think I would enjoy shooting and work to pass it on to my children.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Can't imagine waiting quietly in a tree blind for hours hoping a deer will wander by in his normal deer path just for your pleasure. However, it's been said, good things are worth waiting for.
Archery and home defense DO have some usage. Nobody wants to be shot by an arrow, and it's legal to have bows and possibly crossbows around the house....and practice with them.
 

max

Legend
Many bowhunters in my neck of the woods! In fact, the business of archery ranges is doing pretty well here. Lotta deer in the *******; not so many in San Francisco.

I like archery (I'm not a hunter); ;taught it at scout camp, was a Usta-be good archer.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I like archery also, have owned and shot several compounds, but my favorite was a 66" longbow.
At the old SF Archery Range in Sharp Park, we got to shoot uphill and down, up to 120 yards, over water, under walking bridges, and one optional 150 yard target. Yes, I lost a few.
 

MathGeek

Hall of Fame
Can't imagine waiting quietly in a tree blind for hours hoping a deer will wander by in his normal deer path just for your pleasure. However, it's been said, good things are worth waiting for.
Archery and home defense DO have some usage. Nobody wants to be shot by an arrow, and it's legal to have bows and possibly crossbows around the house....and practice with them.

There are many places in the US where deer frequently come within archery range of homes. Some years back we set up a camera with a monitor in the living room. When a deer showed up within range, a member of the household would go upstairs and put an arrow through them from an open window. We've killed many deer this way, deer that were otherwise happily eating our gardens and orchards: Sort of a combined hunting and home defense with archery.

No need to sit for hours in a tree stand with a setup like this, although I've killed a lot of deer that way also. I like doing it that way for a limited number of hunting days in the fall, but not so much once it gets really cold.

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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Being a City boy, San Francisco from '49 thru '81, there were very few opportunities to go hunting.
Did participate in a boar hunt in '80 at Ford Ord, where I was stationed 10 year's previous, carrying a DWesson .44 in an outside shoulder holster, but didn't pull the trigger given the chance in a thicket with just me and several boars ranging from maybe 40lbs. up to one really big one well over 200. Didn't want to get them mad unless I had a CLEAR shot at the front shoulder, and even .44, thickets do alter the angle and impact of the shot.
Used handloaded Hornady 260 gr. Flat Points pushed by 18 gr. of Blue Dot ball powder with a 6" barrel. Not a super hot load, as I can't handle full loads really, so BDot is a soft push slow acting propellant that would allow a few followup shots if need be.
Crawling around in a thicket, with no help on the backside, I knew it was risky being alone with at least a handful of boars, including possibly an Alpha male. The crew stayed below in a valley, while I climbed up a mesa to scout the surrounding area with binocs, when I entered the thicket alone hoping for a 1 on 1 encounter.
Oh, naturally, I got tons of flack for not taking the shot, and also for an active imagination. Sometimes, prudence is the better part of valor.
I have hunted deer way back in the mid '60's, before joining the USArmy, and didn't like the idea of just stalking what seemed like a defenseless species. They're not defenseless, but they are not aggressive either. Boar hunting often can go wrong, to some consequence, so it was more my style.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Yeah, that first hunting experience, if you can call it that.
Around '73, still hobbling from a tib/fib multi compound from '71, a year after I got asked to leave the Army. I knew guns a bit, having shot .223, .45, 9mm, .308, and .50's during Basic and Advanced Weap. Training.
Bud gave me a .243 Winchester, same model 70 as the .308 I shot in the Army a couple year's previous, and off we went, with 5 other guys, to the backcountry around the Central Sierra's just S of the town of Murphy. Leader was an experienced backcountry hunter, the rest of us, just kids with nothing to do.
Must have hiked 11 miles before spotting a buck, tired, sore, sweaty, bored, and the target was on another ridge at least 1/2 mile away. Chased that pack for another 3 odd miles, some guys going around to try to get a shot from the side as the ridge converged on a canyon, forcing the two to meet at rifle range. I stuck with the main group, so never got nearer than spotting scope distance, so nothing to report as far as fun was concerned.
Nobody got a shot off, as the brush got thicker the nearer we got to the intersecting canyon. Taught me a good lesson though. No work, no reward.
 

Tardigrade

Banned
Hey, just being reaistic.
What good is archery in the real world?
I carried for 7 years as a night Taxi driver in San Francisco, so I know it's indeed useful to learn to shoot.
Yes, I've owned several compound bows, and used to practice at the San Francisco Archery range, which included several stations shooting over water, up to 125 yards, uphill and downhill, next to the SF shooting range, where I competed in Practical Pistol and IPSC Combat shoots.
I've also shot at the Sacramento 350 yard rifle range, until it closed in 1983.


Didn't you say you got shot at when you were a taxi driver in a thread quite some time ago? Mate, if so that's pretty hardcore.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
5 shots into the windshield and headliner above the windshield, while driving up Hayes St. at hopefully 30-55 mph.
Stabbed in the neck during a robbery attempt, but got away when I reversed up a narrow alley, banging into both walls in either side, knocking him off balance and dropping his knife.
Held up with knives 2 other times. But I countered with a gun.
 

Tardigrade

Banned
5 shots into the windshield and headliner above the windshield, while driving up Hayes St. at hopefully 30-55 mph.
Stabbed in the neck during a robbery attempt, but got away when I reversed up a narrow alley, banging into both walls in either side, knocking him off balance and dropping his knife.
Held up with knives 2 other times. But I countered with a gun.


I don't even know what to say to this post, why have you been targeted so often??? Wrong place, wrong time???
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
EVERY night taxi driver get's into hoopla's. Start a shift at 7PM, work till 3, and you get some slow nights where you pick up anyone who waves for you.
I know a YellowCab driver who has 10 confirmed kills.
I know two Veteran's Cab driver's who have over 5.
Rumor has it Luxor has the most robbery attempts against them, as they are the strongest after midnight thru 5 AM.
San Francisco Cops like to brag than 5 officer's got shot in 1981. Guess what? In 1980, 11 taxi driver's got shot. I know this because I was in court for one of my "incidences".
 
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