Are Andy Murray and Lleyton hewitt stylistically the greatest players against big hitters / servers?

[Ganstaz003]

This question / poll isn't about if they are better against any other type of players except very big hitters and servers. Nor is it about if they are better than other ATG's in an OVERALL sense, except against big hitters and servers. I don't think either have had a bad match up problem or losing negative head to head record against a big hitter / server, especially during their primes / peaks.

 

[ojo rojo]

MuryGOAT.

Have you just been fired and/or divorced?

 

[jaggy]

Andy has such style

 

[BHServe]

I'm smelling a comeback of the great @kalpab here with a brand new account

 

[papertank]

Murray definitely has a way of neutralizing the game of big servers in a way that the top 3 can't do as consistently.

 

[ibbi]

Remember when Hewitt came to defend his Wimbledon title, and got knocked out on opening day by Ivo Karlovic?

 

[Zara]

LOL why do you say that? Do you think he has too much time in hand?

MuryGOAT.

Have you just been fired and/or divorced?[/QUOTE]

 

[BeatlesFan]

Yes, two players with 5 slams between them are "the greatest." And to use the word "style" in conjunction with either player is a misnomer. Your answer is:

Agassi
Federer

 

[Waspsting]

I don't think either have had a bad match up problem or losing negative head to head record against a big hitter / server, especially during their primes / peaks.

Hewitt 2-4 Karlovic

Against Safin & Roddick combined, Hewitt's 14-14 (7-7 against each). Roger Federer is 31-5

Murray 2-3 Ancic

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Look, we went over this on the Thread about Murray supposedly being better than the Big 3 against the field and not having a losing h2h against anyone.

FACTS, were provided by several people refuting this... and you just ignored them and went on claiming the same.

Are you clowning around? Or a little touched upstairs?

 

[Mainad]

Yes, two players with 5 slams between them are "the greatest." And to use the word "style" in conjunction with either player is a misnomer. Your answer is:

 

[MasturB]

Has to be Fred.

 

[flanker2000fr]

Connors is the blindingly obvious answer to the question, with 8 slams and 268 weeks at number 1 to boot.

Agassi would come second for the quality of his return and his counter punching abilities.

 

[Ganstaz003]

Yes, two players with 5 slams between them are "the greatest." And to use the word "style" in conjunction with either player is a misnomer. Your answer is:

Agassi
Federer

By that reasoning / logic, Ivo Karlovic isn't a 'greater' server than Rafael Nadal or Novak Djokovic because unlike them, he has won 0 slams?

I wasn't asking about whether they were the 'greatest' players OVERALL. I was asking about their abilities, purely against big hitters and servers.

 

[Ganstaz003]

Hewitt 2-4 Karlovic

Against Safin & Roddick combined, Hewitt's 14-14 (7-7 against each). Roger Federer is 31-5

Murray 2-3 Ancic

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Look, we went over this on the Thread about Murray supposedly being better than the Big 3 against the field and not having a losing h2h against anyone.

FACTS, were provided by several people refuting this... and you just ignored them and went on claiming the same.

Are you clowning around? Or a little touched upstairs?

I know! You absolutely demolished me in that thread. So I need some time to gather myself before I can take it all in again.

 

[metsman]

LOL why do you say that? Do you think he has too much time in hand?

 

[Ganstaz003]

MuryGOAT.

Have you just been fired and/or divorced?

Lots of assumptions. Why assume either of those two things happened to me when I can still post here despite those two events not occurring? I can be working in an office whilst posting what I'm posting or doing it during breaks.

 

[Fabresque]

Federer has done so well to neautralize the threat big hitters/servers bring, because he uses his opponents pace to HIS advantage.

 

[smash hit]

The h2h's of 3 of the current big servers + Ancic against Murray, Federer, Nadal and Djokovic + Hewitt are as follows.

Server Returner
Ancic N. 4-2, F. 6-1, M. 2-3, D. 3-1, H. 1-0

Isner N. 6-0, F. 5-2, M. 8-0, D. 8-2, H. 3-2

Karlovic N. 5-0, F.13-1, M 7-0, D. 3-1, H. 2-4

Raonic N. 7-2, F. 10-3, M. 9-3, D. 8-0,H. 1-1

In percentage terms it is,

Nadal 84.61 winning %, 15.38 losing %.

Djokovic's 84.61 winning %, 15.38 losing %.

Federer 82.92 winning %, 17.07 losing %.

Murray 81.25 winning %, 18.75 losing %.

Hewitt 50% wins, 50% loses.