At Kyrgios' age...

undecided

Semi-Pro
Santoro hit a 2HFH, please. He was a weakling compared to Kyrgios.

Of course this hasn't translated to Slam titles but the pure talent and athleticism is there. Not sure how that's even arguable. I never said "He's a winner", did I?
The stroke mechanics were different on the FH but the shot selection is similar. Kyrgios is much bigger thus more powerful. Otherwise that's all kyrgios is. Although, vs Rafa at the AO he tried to hang from baseline, I give him credit for that.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
And how do you know Nick isn't a "massive outlier" and won't break established tennis patterns? He may win 3 slams after he turns 28 like Stan or win 10 after he's 30.

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DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Nick reminds me of Justin Bieber from a few years ago when he was egging houses and starting fights on streets to prove his “toughness”

Only difference is Bieber actually got his act together (which I gotta give him credit for and I can’t stand that dude). Nick meanwhile, is only a year younger than Bieber and still acts like a 13-year old girl
Don't insult 13 year old girls with that despicable comparison, please!
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Rovesciarete

Hall of Fame
lol this is ridiculous.

Kyrgios is the most talented ball striker in the game outside of Federer, the things he does are just outrageous. The touch, the trick shots, the easy power...it’s breathtaking.

I realize he is a huge underachiever but his athleticism is just mind-boggling and is a real treat to watch.

Plus he is one of the only players who can challenge Nadal, that in and of itself is a massive achievement.

Holding him up against players from other eras is stupid. No other active player outside the Big Handful is impressive either.

I think Nick will be an Ivanesevic type, win a Slam or two much later when his peak is long gone and he has matured a bit.

Sadly for Nick his body was already breaking down and he never got his act together when he had to return. He might have still a chance deep run or even win a slam in very favourable conditions if his condition is peaking but it will get harder and harder.

To it also shows that just the eye test is incredibly deceiving. You need a good tennis eye and a clear stat head.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Sadly for Nick his body was already breaking down and he never got his act together when he had to return. He might have still a chance deep run or even win a slam in very favourable conditions if his condition is peaking but it will get harder and harder.

To it also shows that just the eye test is incredibly deceiving. You need a good tennis eye and a clear stat head.

He is done with tennis...someone clearly is out of the loop when it comes to most recent news...
 

Rovesciarete

Hall of Fame
He is done with tennis...someone clearly is out of the loop when it comes to most recent news...

To be fair that was written in 2020 when there was much more hope for him. Just wanted to point out that a massive serve and brutal attacking forehand isn't all in tennis. You need to run and fight too.

Ironically this seems to be a weakness of most 'bad' boys. Lack of will and grit. The softer types seem to have much more inner steel.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
To be fair that was written in 2020 when there was much more hope for him. Just wanted to point out that a massive serve and brutal attacking forehand isn't all in tennis. You need to run and fight too.

Ironically this seems to be a weakness of most 'bad' boys. Lack of will and grit. The softer types seem to have much more inner steel.

It may have been written in 2020, but you replied today...just like me...
 
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