Nole Ivanisevic
Rookie
Does anyone know which kind of racquet he uses.Can´t imagine it´s a real graphene prestige.
Cilic Racquet
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
TGK231.3, Microgel Radical MP
Nole Ivanisevic
Rookie
Thanks for your answer
lidoazndiabloboi
Hall of Fame
Not sure when this happened, but it looks like Cilic switched from the TGK231.3 to the Prestige Rev Pro
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Happened some time ago...
AceyMan
Professional
Dayyum. That is one purty piece of ball whacking equipment.
Not sure when this happened, but it looks like Cilic switched from the TGK231.3 to the Prestige Rev Pro
The hoop contours are a thing of beauty. The elves in Kennelbach did a nice job here.
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I'm watching Cilic v Federer 2018 AUO Final atm, which is why I found this slightly stale thread. I suspect Cilic is still hitting the same frame today, as I write. Anyone know otherwise?
Lavs
Hall of Fame
He's changed to Prestige Mid (but latest one, which is true 93inch instead of 89)
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Yes, the first oneWoaw. Is TGT 312.1 the first graphene rev pro, or the XT, or an other iteration?
Thanks
McEncock
Professional
@3virgul14
Did you put the lead at 3 and 9 ? Or is it from the pro specs
Did you put the lead at 3 and 9 ? Or is it from the pro specs
edelp
Semi-Pro
cool. I thought he was still with the MG radical MP open pattern then... so he changed more or less immediately after they were launched...
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
Not true! Just google some pics from the final, still the 231.3!
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
If you refer to the pj, then yes.
If you refer to the mold, then no.
dr325i
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17-time major champ Federer loses U.S. Open semifinal to Marin Cilic - National | Globalnews.ca
Instead of Novak Djokovic vs. Roger Federer for the U.S. Open title, first-time Grand Slam finalists Kei Nishikori and Marin Cilic will vie for the championship.
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Prestige PJ, TGT312.1
The 231.3 was never painted in Prestige by Head
dr325i
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US Open 2014: Marin Cilic beats Roger Federer – as it happened
Roger Federer was swept aside in straight sets at Flushing Meadow, setting up an all-new grand slam final pairing
www.theguardian.com
NOT the 231 mold...
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
False !! Are you sure?! Looks like my 231.3!US Open 2014: Marin Cilic beats Roger Federer – as it happened
Roger Federer was swept aside in straight sets at Flushing Meadow, setting up an all-new grand slam final pairing
NOT the 231 mold...
Find other pics where the throat is visible, you’ll understand what I am talking about!
3virgul14
Rookie
haqq777
Legend
I was also of the opinion that it was a 231.3 at least up until this Graphene PJ, which was the racquet he used in USO final.
By contrast, below is a 312.1 mold. I took the picture off another forum just to highlight the difference.
Check how clearly one is a 'Y' throat and the other is a 'V' throat.
That said, I defer to more knowledgeable posters here as I'm definitely not an expert. Also it could be that the overgrip on Cilic's stick above is wrapped a bit higher covering the 'Y' and giving the illusion of a 'V'.
By contrast, below is a 312.1 mold. I took the picture off another forum just to highlight the difference.
Check how clearly one is a 'Y' throat and the other is a 'V' throat.
That said, I defer to more knowledgeable posters here as I'm definitely not an expert. Also it could be that the overgrip on Cilic's stick above is wrapped a bit higher covering the 'Y' and giving the illusion of a 'V'.
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sanister
Professional
Good post.It isn't his overgrip wrapped higher.You can see where the throat ends & handle starts even in the picture you posted with overgrip.Its not Y shape.Very clear to me it is V shape throat.I was also of the opinion that it was a 231.3 at least up until this Graphene PJ, which was the racquet he used in USO final.
By contrast, below is a 312.1 mold. I took the picture off another forum just to highlight the difference.
Check how clearly one is a 'Y' throat and the other is a 'V' throat.
That said, I defer to more knowledgeable posters here as I'm definitely not an expert. Also it could be that the overgrip on Cilic's stick above is wrapped a bit higher covering the 'Y' and giving the illusion of a 'V'.
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jmacdaununder2
Legend
It appears that perhaps even 'The Oracle' is ruminating on this one...
vsbabolat
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Definitely NOT the 231 in that picture.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
'The Oracle' has spoken!...well, really more of a visual thing...whatever...
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
You cannot say from that pic! Must see the throat shape.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
You cannot, I can.
Those are the Rev Pro grommets and head certainly would not create those for the 231 for the transition period. What I cannot tell from the picture is when it was taken, but I do believe the source knowledge.
Similar in Barty’s case, Head has not (in 2020) created specific Gravity 16x19 grommets and reusing the Speed ones
The difference is the 231 (95 sq in) and 312 are very different molds whereas the 263 and 344 are almost identical
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sanister
Professional
Sorry but in my experience grommets only are not a good way to identify a mold.They can replaced, swapped & a lot of other things by any third party customizer,maybe even Head in this case as he was transitioning.
This is a 231.3
See the grommets & how they are similar to Cilic's above?
Also,Graphene Rev Pro grommet strip look very different if I recall.They look to be protruding from the channel,like below.They don't have a cutoff like Cilic has on his racquet.Easy to tell that Cilics grommets are different than usual Rev Pro ones also.
The real identifier in my experience is looking at throat of racquet,the actual mold. The 231.3 has a more V & sort of boxier throat like Cilic has.Dug this pic put from older threads (thnx to @moon shot for pic, I believe he is a master at these sort of pic investigations).
The red one obviously is a 231.Now compare both to pics of Cilic & it's easy to tell what he is using.
This is a 231.3
See the grommets & how they are similar to Cilic's above?
Also,Graphene Rev Pro grommet strip look very different if I recall.They look to be protruding from the channel,like below.They don't have a cutoff like Cilic has on his racquet.Easy to tell that Cilics grommets are different than usual Rev Pro ones also.
The real identifier in my experience is looking at throat of racquet,the actual mold. The 231.3 has a more V & sort of boxier throat like Cilic has.Dug this pic put from older threads (thnx to @moon shot for pic, I believe he is a master at these sort of pic investigations).
The red one obviously is a 231.Now compare both to pics of Cilic & it's easy to tell what he is using.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
We have no clear picture of the throat.Sorry but in my experience grommets only are not a good way to identify a mold.They can replaced, swapped & a lot of other things by any third party customizer,maybe even Head in this case as he was transitioning.
This is a 231.3
See the grommets & how they are similar to Cilic's above?
Also,Graphene Rev Pro grommet strip look very different if I recall.They look to be protruding from the channel,like below.They don't have a cutoff like Cilic has on his racquet.Easy to tell that Cilics grommets are different than usual Rev Pro ones also.
The real identifier in my experience is looking at throat of racquet,the actual mold. The 231.3 has a more V & sort of boxier throat like Cilic has.Dug this pic put from older threads (thnx to @moon shot for pic, I believe he is a master at these sort of pic investigations).
The red one obviously is a 231.Now compare both to pics of Cilic & it's easy to tell what he is using.
Customizers do not have specific grommets as you suggest and Head would not create special grommets for one racket during transition.
The picture of the Rev Pro that vsbabolat attached matches your Rev Pro channels and grommets - strung.
I agree with you on the throat
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
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If you check post #28 you will see the 231.3 with those grommets in Graphene Prestige Rev Pro pj and that Cilic picture is from the US Open 2014.
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
Google has dozens of them...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
You are assuming that your premise (231 at USO 2014) is correct with your statements. In #28, we have not determined if it is the 231 or 312.
ALSO, the 231 BRIDGE narrows toward the middle of it (unlike the previous Radical generations -- TI Radical, iRadical...
in #28 that is clearly NOT the case
Hard to see because of the PJ but take a look, or if you have one, it is obvious:
4th picture here shows the bridge narrowing of the 231 mold which is NOT the case with the 312 or picture in #28 on the stringer:
Tennisschläger Head MicroGel Radical MP Re-Edition ´13 | Sportega
Tennisschläger Head MicroGel Radical MP Re-Edition ´13 aus der Kollektion 2012/13, geeignet für fortgeschrittene und erfahrene Spieler. Der Schläger ist besaitet, Kopfgröße 630 cm2, Gewicht 295 g, Balancepunkt 325 mm. Es wird hier die Spitzentechnologie MicroGel verwendet.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
show it please, so far, I could not find the definite one. Feel free to attach in this thread
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
Post #28, first 2 pics it is clear a 231.3, as I said I have a few. Bridge thickness is 19 mm, can be seen small difference compared with the rest of the beam.
sanister
Professional
Well I though haqqs post was a good one but nevertheless went to Getty to get these for you.Best I could do given the circumstances.
I am a little surprised honestly.I hold you in high regard in terms of knowledge on these things & to me it seems very clear cut (even from these bad photos) that its a 231.What am I not seeing here that you are in regards to this not being a 231??Genuinely curious as I am a quinquagenarian admittedly & have old eyes.Could be missing something here.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Do you have them in Rev Pro PJ?
The bridge narrowing is obvious rather than "small"
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I still have not said definitely NOT 231. A few pics I have seen from vsbabolat show different.Well I though haqqs post was a good one but nevertheless went to Getty to get these for you.Best I could do given the circumstances.
I am a little surprised honestly.I hold you in high regard in terms of knowledge on these things & to me it seems very clear cut (even from these bad photos) that its a 231.What am I not seeing here that you are in regards to this not being a 231??Genuinely curious as I am a quinquagenarian admittedly & have old eyes.Could be missing something here.
I'll know the details shortly.
Your pictures are not fully clear however, make me think more about this
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
From that angle is rather small than “obvious”
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Again, to you, not to me.
In picture #28, black bridge with the straight red grommet -- I do not see a 3mm narrowing toward the middle (it is gradual on the 231)
However, cannot say definitely
H22 fan
Semi-Pro
Nice pics, clear case now! 231.3!!!Well I though haqqs post was a good one but nevertheless went to Getty to get these for you.Best I could do given the circumstances.
I am a little surprised honestly.I hold you in high regard in terms of knowledge on these things & to me it seems very clear cut (even from these bad photos) that its a 231.What am I not seeing here that you are in regards to this not being a 231??Genuinely curious as I am a quinquagenarian admittedly & have old eyes.Could be missing something here.
Alexh22
Professional
I didn’t want to insist on anything here but after seeing clear evidence on post #28, 36 and 43. I came to the exact same conclusion with Sanister ,McEn, H22F and 777Well I though haqqs post was a good one but nevertheless went to Getty to get these for you.Best I could do given the circumstances.
I am a little surprised honestly.I hold you in high regard in terms of knowledge on these things & to me it seems very clear cut (even from these bad photos) that its a 231.What am I not seeing here that you are in regards to this not being a 231??Genuinely curious as I am a quinquagenarian admittedly & have old eyes.Could be missing something here.
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