College Tennis: Getting a Scholarship - part 1

jhhachamp

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DashaandSafin said:
Sweet im from NJ too. What school and what part?

I went to Kittatinny, a small school out in northwest NJ in the farmland. We made the group 2 semis my junior and senior years, and nearly made the finals my senior year, which was in 2003. Which school did you go to?
 

35ft6

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chrisplchs said:
Wait.. somebody here as a athletic scholarship to DIII... those don't exist.. at least not legally
There's ways around this, and those ways are implemented with great frequency. Great athletes will get academic scholarships.
 

35ft6

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tennisfreak412 said:
I've got something that may seem like a stupid question, but I can't figure out. If you are contacting coaches, taking visits etc., do you still need to make an actual, "normal" application to the school?
Speaking of contacting coaches, send them a video of you playing. Come across as a good kid who can get along with people and will readily accept coaching.

Tape can break down roughly as so:

- SLATE: Name, address, email, phone.
- SLATE 2: Ranking, best results, special awards. Short description of style of play, strengths and weaknesses.
- SLATE 3: Grade point average, clubs, special accomplishments.
- You facing the camera, introducing yourself, why you want to go to this school, what you plan on majoring in, what you hope to accomplish in college tennis, "I look forward to meeting you," etc. Like 3 minutes or so.
- You being fed balls, hitting different shots. About 5 to 10 minutes.
- A taped match. At least an entire set. This is what coaches I've talked to are most interested in, seeing you play an actual match. Don't just get somebody to beat up on either, a quality opponent is better. If you're ambitious, add titles showing the score. It's good to edit out the dead space in between points and games (I suggest a 10 frame cross dissolve). Don't get creative with the editing to make it look like you're a pro. The coach will pick up on it and it makes you seem very very shady.
- SLATE: Name, address, email, phone.
 

DashaandSafin

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Steve Dykstra said:
I went to Kittatinny, a small school out in northwest NJ in the farmland. We made the group 2 semis my junior and senior years, and nearly made the finals my senior year, which was in 2003. Which school did you go to?
Delbarton. I wasn't on the team though. I was a swimmer. But i followed tennis closely. I think we were like top 5 or 3. Newark Academy is bad this year i heard.
 
its not that they were bad this year its that bobby mactaggart wasnt playing nearly as well as he could have. he's a good player, but he's not really up to the previous NA standards, like gimelstob, etc.
 

DashaandSafin

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Well, bobby is no top singles player, although hes really good.
Defiantly not up to NA standards.

Im still amazed that Milburn had all those studs that year...

And Na ******** too :(
 

jhhachamp

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DashaandSafin said:
Delbarton. I wasn't on the team though. I was a swimmer. But i followed tennis closely. I think we were like top 5 or 3. Newark Academy is bad this year i heard.

Oh yeah, Delbarton was very good at tennis. We were right near the top 20 and Delbarton was around 5 I think. They would have probably have beat us 5-0 in our best year, I would probably have been the only one with a chance to win at 2nd singles.
 

jhhachamp

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tennisfreak412 said:
its not that they were bad this year its that bobby mactaggart wasnt playing nearly as well as he could have. he's a good player, but he's not really up to the previous NA standards, like gimelstob, etc.

He is definitely a very good player though. I played him when he was 15 I think and he could really hit the ball for a small guy. I'm not sure how I managed to win that match.
 

jhhachamp

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bluedevilinnj said:
hey steve dykstra, were u at nationals this year? I'm on the club team a Villanova and we played u guys in the quarterfinals.

No, I wasn't able to make it to nationals, hopefully next year. I do know Dan Falkowski from your school, he told me he was one of the best on your club team. Me and him were old high school rivals and now we still play from time to time.

PS. Look out for my team to win nationals next year!
 
Do some teams carry extra players just for practices? They will practice with the team but don't always travel or play in the matches?
 

MegacedU

Professional
bluedevilinnj said:
Do some teams carry extra players just for practices? They will practice with the team but don't always travel or play in the matches?
Yep, especially when teams start to "get old". They train newer players even if they're not up to par with the team, as opposed to taking people with no experience.
 

jhhachamp

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darknight08 said:
WOW Dude AWESOME essay

I have a question, when you were applying for colleges for tennis what was your NTRP #rating?

Juniors don't really get NTRP ratings, but good D1 players would probably be ranked 5.5 or 6.0 I would guess.
 

Chosen One

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Just get into the top ten and the state schools give 500,000$+ scholarship as long as you are not bad and get good grades (no DS OR FS) mAINLY aS AND bS
 

serveitup911

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^^

This would depend hugely on the state and the school. In fact, the above statement is NOT true in most cases. 10th in most states will not get you a scholarship. I was #1 in my state and did not get offered full athletic scholarships to any state schools.
 

jax11213

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Chosen One said:
Just get into the top ten and the state schools give 500,000$+ scholarship as long as you are not bad and get good grades (no DS OR FS) mAINLY aS AND bS

That's not true at all. In my state, we have NC State and UNC as the main public universities. Even being number one in the state would not guarantee you a partial scholarship, let alone a full one.
 
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Lee

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hey, nice story, Daniel. Chemistry is a tough major. What are your career aspirations?
 
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pvtennis

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Thank you for that informative article. I have a couple of kids with a long way to go before college and this keeps things in perspective --- especially with the difficulty in making a scholarship happen.
 

jax11213

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I just visited Furman and I gotta say that I liked what I saw. I met Paul Scarpa and he is one of the most likeable people I have ever met. I now understand how he consistently produces great teams at such a small university. Serveitup, typically how high in the south do you need to be to play at Furman?

Thanks
 

serveitup911

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Hmm, lots of our Sophomores and Freshman were top 10 in the South. To be serious, I would say you would need to be top 25 - 30.
 

300Gkid

Professional
hey serveitup911, i was wondering if you played on your H.S team while in HS and if most college players do. I know some of the top ranked kids dont because it takes away from tournament time
 

VA10S

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Just finished reading this thread and found it very informative. Great job servitup911!

Questions for serveitup911 - Regarding early vs. late signing periods, do colleges commit most of their scholarship funds to early signees or do they hold back funding for undecided recruits? In other words, if you commit early, do you land a heftier scholarship?

My son is a TRN 5-star junior recruit (top 35) and we are starting to think about next year's recruiting process. My son has broached the idea about a late signing so that he can find out where his best friends (non-tennis) are accepted before he commits to a college.

Your reply to my questions are appreciated. Thanks.
 

Wild Card

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Many college coaches would love to recruit Americans, but for many kids it’s not just D1 or bust, they’d rather sit on the bench at a Power Conference than play for a MM. What do you propose they do to change that mentality? For many the only option is to fill the roster with Internationals, who in many cases work hard and play harder
 

jcgatennismom

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Many college coaches would love to recruit Americans, but for many kids it’s not just D1 or bust, they’d rather sit on the bench at a Power Conference than play for a MM. What do you propose they do to change that mentality? For many the only option is to fill the roster with Internationals, who in many cases work hard and play harder
Coaches need to Email 3-5 star players, talk to academy coaches that attend tournaments to market their programs. Maybe their D2 or MM is near a big city, has new buildings or facilities. or offers unique majors. My son who considered D2, MM, and P5 programs chose to play for a MM school far from home that he'd never heard of because a coach sent an Email touting the benefits of the school. Son visited college, liked it, the coach, and team and decided to attend. That MM had two 5 star and 1 4 star US player playing 1-3 because the coach sent out a lot of Emails, offered good scholarships, and had a strong schedule of play vs nonconference teams. Coaches need to be able to sell a vision.

I do think coaches could make more use of social media-posting team videos or American players talking about why they chose programs outside P5s. Coaches are busy esp those outside P5 who may not have assistants but if they invest time in recruiting and build a strong team, then each year it will be easier to recruit players to their programs. P5 teams want developed players; if a D2/MM coach can show via his history how he has developed players, he/she can draw players on the fence between P5/MM/D2/D3

The other unsaid truth about having a few American players on the team is they may have cars which helps if the college isnt in a city with public transport.
 
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