Congratulations to Ash Barty, 2020 Year End #1 for the 2nd straight year

[Aussie Darcy]

Well this is going to be a controversial one but congrats where credit is due.

Ash Barty will hold the #1 ranking for the rest of the year despite not stepping foot on court since her SF loss in Doha back to February. Thank you Covid.

The #1 player skipped the US Open and French Open (where she was the defending champion) due to Covid risks and being unable to train due to restrictions.

This was our Aussie Ash just a few days ago watching the footy cheering for her team.

Credit where credit is due, last year she won Miami, RG, Birmingham and the YEC. On top of that she made the Beijing and Sydney final, Wuhan SF, Cincy SF, Madrid and Aus Open QF.

This year she won the title in Adelaide, made the Aus Open SF losing to Kenin and then the Doha SF losing to Kvitova.

Anyway, congratulations Barty.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Well this is going to be a controversial one but congrats where credit is due.

Ash Barty will hold the #1 ranking for the rest of the year despite not stepping foot on court since her SF loss in Doha back to February. Thank you Covid.

The #1 player skipped the US Open and French Open (where she was the defending champion) due to Covid risks and being unable to train due to restrictions.

There's no credit due this year, she played one slam and lost in SF. Not a legit YE#1 instance, last year's was of course.

 

[tennis_pro]

The-year-end-no-1 who won one 250 tournament and lost early in everything else sounds about right for the WTA.

 

[Nadal_Django]

Wait, these jokers haven't got a single tournament scheduled after RG.

 

[Milanez82]

Wait, these jokers haven't got a single tournament scheduled after RG.

They deserve equal pay

 

[Swingmaster]

Extremely disappointing year for Barty. Had a perfect opportunity to take the AO for her country during a crisis, but squandered it. Rooting for her, though. Not to bring Kyrgios into every single thing, but I wonder how those two get along. Seem like complete opposites, but I’m guessing Kyrgios respects her as a bad ass person.

 

[TheAssassin]

So basically she gets twice the credit for what she did last year. Most of her highlighted results are from 2019 lol.

 

[NoleFam]

How is she YE #1? There were 3 Slams held and she only competed in one and didn't win any. Undeserved YE#1 imo.

 

[ND-13]

LOL. This is an embarrassment to whoever came up with the ranking process. Didn't Halep actually win 3 or 4 tournaments ?

 

[Aussie Darcy]

So basically she gets twice the credit for what she did last year. Most of her highlighted results are from 2019 lol.

How is she YE #1? There were 3 Slams held and she only competed in one and didn't win any. Undeserved YE#1 imo.

LOL. This is an embarrassment to whoever came up with the ranking process. Didn't Halep actually win 3 or 4 tournaments ?

Same system as the ATP.

 

[Meles Fan.]

LOL WHAT

 

[ND-13]

Same system as the ATP.

Well, every one is playing in ATP for the most part. So, while system same as ATP, outcome is not.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Well, every one is playing in ATP for the most part. So, while system same as ATP, outcome is not.

Well you can blame Covid for that, not neccesarily the women who didn't want to risk getting the virus aka Paire and co.

 

[ND-13]

Well you can blame Covid for that, not neccesarily the women who didn't want to risk getting the virus aka Paire and co.

I thought stats showed women are less susceptible to COVID compared to men.

Anyway, Barty is going to be embarrassed beyond belief at this.

 

[TheAssassin]

Same system as the ATP.

I know the system is iffy to say the least. But ATP's YE #1 will have plenty more results from this year to validate his ranking. Can't recall seeing much from Barty in 2020 at all in comparison.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

I know the system is iffy to say the least. But ATP's YE #1 will have plenty more results from this year to validate his ranking. Can't recall seeing much from Barty in 2020 at all in comparison.

The system was doomed to begin with. Take Sofia Kenin, she won the Aus Open, could win RG but wouldn't be YE#1 because of the system. Thiem won the USO and could win the French Open but wouldn't be #1 or probably even #2. And how about Federer? Even less than Barty, one tournament and not even playing but still top 4.

 

[Nadal_Django]

I know the system is iffy to say the least. But ATP's YE #1 will have plenty more results from this year to validate his ranking. Can't recall seeing much from Barty in 2020 at all in comparison.

She'll be rewarded for sitting on her couch playing video games for 11 months. An utter joke...

 

[Phoenix1983]

No YE No 1 should be awarded this year, on either the men's or women's side.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

She'll be rewarded for sitting on her couch for 11 months. An utter joke...

Aside's from the #1 ranking, different from Federer how? #4 with just one tournament.

 

[TheAssassin]

The system was doomed to begin with. Take Sofia Kenin, she won the Aus Open, could win RG but wouldn't be YE#1 because of the system. Thiem won the USO and could win the French Open but wouldn't be #1 or probably even #2. And how about Federer? Even less than Barty, one tournament and not even playing but still top 4.

Is WTA going to hold the year end finals for the top 8? ATP has it scheduled in London just like before and I still have no idea how the race is going to work this year.

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[ND-13]

The system was doomed to begin with. Take Sofia Kenin, she won the Aus Open, could win RG but wouldn't be YE#1 because of the system. Thiem won the USO and could win the French Open but wouldn't be #1 or probably even #2. And how about Federer? Even less than Barty, one tournament and not even playing but still top 4.

Just abolish the No 1 for the year. Would make no sense if Thiem not No 1 if he wins RG.

No 2-4 nobody cares much.

 

[Tenacity]

What a joke lol. At least men side is exciting as usual.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Is WTA going to have the year end finals for the top 8? ATP has it scheduled in London just like before and I still have no idea how the race is going to work this year.

Cancelled hence already YE#1. No more big tournaments just some smaller ones.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Is WTA going to hold the year end finals for the top 8? ATP has it scheduled in London just like before and I still have no idea how the race is going to work this year.

no YEC

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

Good thing they are awarding it this year too.

ND #6!

 

[Aussie Darcy]

What a joke lol. At least men side is exciting as usual.

Ah yes, i'm watching this Sinner demolition of Zverev and Nadal destroying Korda and it's just SO exciting right now.

Meanwhile, edge of my seat earlier with Swiatek playing lights out.

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

no YEC

Source?

 

[Tenacity]

Ah yes this Sinner demolition of Zverev and Nadal destroying Korda is just SO exciting right now.

Meanwhile, edge of my seat earlier with Swiatek playing lights out.

I meant when it comes to tournaments and race this year, not RG in particular. ATP when it awards YE#1 this year it will be somewhat deserving, much more than the joke that is WTA.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Source?

For women since Shenzhen isn't happening.

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

For women since Shenzhen isn't happening.

Obviously nobody is gonna go to China Lol. London can still happen

 

[Aussie Darcy]

I meant when it comes to tournaments and race this year, not RG in particular. ATP when it awards YE#1 this year it will be somewhat deserving, much more than the joke that is WTA.

Oh yes that default at the USO sure was exciting. The men's side finally got a 1990's champion thanks to a ball to the throat. But you attack the WTA, hilarious.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Obviously nobody is gonna go to China Lol. London can still happen

well yeah

 

[Tenacity]

Oh yes that default at the USO sure was exciting. The men's side finally got a 1990's champion thanks to a ball to the throat. But you attack the WTA, hilarious.

Just stating the facts. Played 1.5 tournament this year, gets awarded YE#1, that alone is enough to see that in fact WTA is a joke.
And I get it, you are from AUS, gotta defend it so badly.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Just stating the facts. Played 1.5 tournament this year, gets awarded YE#1, that alone is enough to see that in fact WTA is a joke.
And I get it, you are from AUS, gotta defend it so badly.

That shows the system is broken, not the WTA. Same thing could have happened on the ATP.

 

[NoleFam]

Just abolish the No 1 for the year. Would make no sense if Thiem not No 1 if he wins RG.

No 2-4 nobody cares much.

Thiem is actually going to lose points at the end of the year for making the ATP finals last year and then has Djokovic with 5 tournaments won ahead of him. If he wins RG, he would have 5200 points won at the Slam level this year without much points elsewhere. Djokovic already has over 5000 points this year. The ATP YE#1 would actually make sense unlike the WTA's.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Thiem is actually going to lose points at the end of the year for making the ATP finals last year and then has Djokovic with 5 tournaments won ahead of him. If he wins RG, he would have 5200 points at the Slam level without much points elsewhere. Djokovic already has over 5000 points. The ATP YE#1 would actually make sense unlike the WTA's.

Probably because the ATP Finals are being played while the WTA YEC aren't so if Barty had hers come off and Halep won that title, she could've gotten there.

 

[NoleFam]

Probably because the ATP Finals are being played while the WTA YEC aren't so if Barty had hers come off and Halep won that title, she could've gotten there.

Yea I guess but it's just a bad look having a YE#1 who played 3 tournaments and only won 1 smaller tournament.

 

[Harry_Wild]

Barty is a gamer, Took almost all of 2020 Pro tennis season off! And why not? Her ranking is already protected!

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Yea I guess but it's just a bad look having a YE#1 who played 3 tournaments and only won 1 smaller tournament.

100% but what was the ranking tournament alternative? I mentioned this back when it was announced, how it would benefit certain players. Madison Keys lost in her first match in Cincy but got to keep all her champion points.. Fognini got to keep his 1000 points from Monte Carlo. There was no happy medium.

 

[ND-13]

Thiem is actually going to lose points at the end of the year for making the ATP finals last year and then has Djokovic with 5 tournaments won ahead of him. If he wins RG, he would have 5200 points won at the Slam level this year without much points elsewhere. Djokovic already has over 5000 points this year. The ATP YE#1 would actually make sense unlike the WTA's.

True. Thiem has laid an egg outside of majors. Djokovic accomplishments still very consistent unless Thiem can backup and win YEC as well.

Let us assume Djokovic loses SF/F

Thiem
RG
USO
AO (F)

Djokovic
AO
RG(F/SF)
ATP Cup
Rome
Cinci
Dubai

 

[NoleFam]

True. Thiem has laid an egg outside of majors. Djokovic accomplishments still very consistent unless Thiem can backup and win YEC as well.

Let us assume Djokovic loses SF/F

Thiem
RG
USO
AO (F)

Djokovic
AO
RG(F/SF)
ATP Cup
Rome
Cinci
Dubai

Thiem has a chance to be YE#1 but he basically has to win RG, Paris and YEC and Djokovic has to do poorly at YEC. If he had done better in other tournaments he wouldn't have to run the tables.

 

[Djokovic2011]

The system was doomed to begin with. Take Sofia Kenin, she won the Aus Open, could win RG but wouldn't be YE#1 because of the system. Thiem won the USO and could win the French Open but wouldn't be #1 or probably even #2. And how about Federer? Even less than Barty, one tournament and not even playing but still top 4.

I agree that the ranking system regarding Federer, or indeed any other injured player, doesn't really make sense. Given that he'd already announced he was taking the rest of the year off anyway I don't see why his ranking points shouldn't have come off just like they would in normal circumstances. Very bizarre the way the ATP operates at times.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

I agree that the ranking system regarding Federer, or indeed any other injured player, doesn't really make sense. Given that he'd already announced he was taking the rest of the year off anyway I don't see why his ranking points shouldn't have come off just like they would in normal circumstances. Very bizarre the way the ATP operates at times.

Point being, I don't understand the barrage of criticism here towards Barty and certain players (there are men too who benefit from keeping their points from their best result from the previous year). Appears to have just descended into a pile on of the WTA which isn't too be surprised I guess judging by the quality of certain people on this forum anyway.

 

[Red Rick]

Rankings are just completely ****ed on both sides for the next 12 months.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Honestly think that's how Barty feels about all these weakass people moaning while she gets to watch the footy and live her best life.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Honestly think that's how Barty feels about all these weakass people moaning while she gets to watch the footy and live her best life.

Rightfully

 

[ND-13]

Point being, I don't understand the barrage of criticism here towards Barty and certain players (there are men too who benefit from keeping their points from their best result from the previous year). Appears to have just descended into a pile on of the WTA which isn't too be surprised I guess judging by the quality of certain people on this forum anyway.

It is not against WTA or ATP... The ranking system is plain bad.

And it is embarrassing to the player, league and sport to call a player who played for 3 tournaments and 1 month of the season to be No 1. Not her fault but plain embarrassing for those who came up with the rules without any thought on minimum qualification.

 

[PDJ]

She'll be rewarded for sitting on her couch playing video games for 11 months. An utter joke...

In fairness she did win something.... a golf tournament.

It is ridiculous, but better Barty than some others, purely because I like her game better than most.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

In fairness she did win something.... a golf tournament.

It is ridiculous, but better Barty than some others, purely because I like her game better than most.

My question to this is and I understand the ridiculousness and said that on the WTA thread but what's the alternative? Whoever is this years YE#1 coshares with the one who sits a top the rankings aka Barty? But what if that turns out to be say Sofia Kenin who even if she wins the title she wouldn't be #2 either? Even with 2 slams? Do we punish players and throw out their ranking points for tournaments that weren't held? E.g. Halep and Wimbledon or Barty and the YEC. Or do we punish players for skipping a tournament due to Covid fears e.g. Andreescu, Barty, etc.? There was no good solution.