Crisp Multi?

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I know most multifilaments have been praised for their softness and feel. And, of the ones I have played with, this is true.

But many of the multis feel a bit too soft for me--I'd call them spongy or mushy. They don't have any "zing." (I do tend like to like crisp strings.)

Does anyone know of some "crisp" multis?
 
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SlapShot

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I know most multifilaments have been praised for their softness and feel. And, of the ones I have played with, this is true.

But many of the multis feel a bit too soft for me--I'd call them spongy or mushy. They don't have any "zing." (I do like tend to like crisp strings.)

Does anyone know of some "crisp" multis?

Good luck. Seriously.

I have had the same experience - good feel, but way too soft for me. I'm back to good 'ol cheap syn gut after much wandering about.
 

Fedace

Banned
X-1 Biphase is as crispy as it gets for the Multis. if you want more crispy then i suggest you try the crispy Cream.
 

Valjean

Hall of Fame
1. Wilson's K-Gut Pro.

2. Tecnifibre's new one out, XR3 (replaces their TrC).

3. Wilson's NXT OS.

4. Also Wilson's NXT Max, the player's version, so-called, of that string family.

5. Babolat's Syntronic Brio, now on its way out.

6. Babolat's Attraction series.
 
X-1 Biphase is as crispy as it gets for the Multis. if you want more crispy then i suggest you try the crispy Cream.

now I'm hungry :[. anyways, besides X-1, theres multifeel, which is not as crisp as X-1, but should be somewhat close to it. It's basically a cheaper version of X-1 thats more comfortable and better tension maintenance.
 

Valjean

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Alright. Thanks for these.

Is Klip Legend a "crisp" gut?
There was a side discussion in here recently about what "crisp" should mean. And I don't recall that "stiff" quite covered it. What do you think it should signify--for you, I mean???
 
^^^ I agree that the definition of crisp varies to a point. IMO some of the multi's that do not feel mushy at impact would be: Klip Excellerator, TF X-1, TF XR3, K-Gut Pro...I think most of these were already mentioned. Other ideas might be the solid core w/multi wrap cheaper synthetics like TNT2, Prince Lightning, Klip Scorcher, etc.
 

rich s

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I'm with SlapShot.......after a lot of experimenting it's back to PSGD for me.

Crisp is not a word I would typically use to describe a multi. Multi's by design are supposed to feel soft not crisp.

I would describe crisp as a tight string/string job where you have to create your own power/pace and the feel of the string/stringbed is firm but not harsh or jarring.

The only multi I could even come close to suggesting is LaserFibre Laser Supreme and I'm not sure that TW carries it anymore. It behaved like it was prestretched and had ZERO coil memory when you took it out of the pacakge. In some repsects it played more like a nylon syn gut than a multi and I am guessing that is because it was probably prestretched.

As a side thought.....identical strings in a 18x20 pattern feel more crisp than in a 16x19 pattern of same size frame.....maybe that is why I am partial to 18x20's

anyway....that is my $.02...YMMV
 
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I know most multifilaments have been praised for their softness and feel. And, of the ones I have played with, this is true.

But many of the multis feel a bit too soft for me--I'd call them spongy or mushy. They don't have any "zing." (I do like tend to like crisp strings.)

Does anyone know of some "crisp" multis?

i'm the same way, and i think maybe prince syn gut multi would be a decent choice, plus if you dont like it you didnt spend a bunch of cash
 

Il Mostro

Banned
If you want something on the cheap that is crisp and plays well, try Wilson reaction 17g. X-1 is my favorite, but just offering a less expensive alternative that I feel is great for the $.
 

Valjean

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Here's one right here that I started in August 2008.
Okay, but here, too, you don't indicate enough. Remembering how difficult it is to define, show what "crisp" is to you by saying how you will use that string, both at play and in the racquet head. Right now you just show you using a hybrid of undetermined character; are you a net player, do you need "touch", just what does "crisp" do in your case???
 

origmarm

Hall of Fame
To answer your earlier question hoodjem about Klip, it is indeed the "crispest" gut I have played with. For me crisp is similar to that new PSGD feel in the first 3 sets if that gives you some kind of reference.

My preference is for the 18g Klip which seems to be substantially different to the 17g for some reason. My last batch felt a bit weird for some reason though, that said you are always going to get some variation with nat gut.

For the multis I've tried I would say X-1 but I haven't tried many. I've got some NRG2 so I'm going to try that soon.

Have you tried Yonex 850 syn as an aside? I found both that and X-1 pretty mushy to be honest. If that's reckoned by some to be the crispest multi they may not be for me.
 

Magnus_CA

New User
Crispiest multi for me has been NRG2 and X-1. Unfortuantely, like all multi's I've tried they don't stay crisp for long.

I plan to try NXT OS and Isospeed Energetic Plus in my racquets this weekend. I'll check back with a comparison but it may be a few weeks before I can log enough hours for a thumbs up or down.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
To answer your earlier question hoodjem about Klip, it is indeed the "crispest" gut I have played with. For me crisp is similar to that new PSGD feel in the first 3 sets if that gives you some kind of reference.

My preference is for the 18g Klip which seems to be substantially different to the 17g for some reason. My last batch felt a bit weird for some reason though, that said you are always going to get some variation with nat gut.

For the multis I've tried I would say X-1 but I haven't tried many. I've got some NRG2 so I'm going to try that soon.

Have you tried Yonex 850 syn as an aside? I found both that and X-1 pretty mushy to be honest. If that's reckoned by some to be the crispest multi they may not be for me.

Klip Legend or Armour Pro?
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Okay, but here, too, you don't indicate enough. Remembering how difficult it is to define, show what "crisp" is to you by saying how you will use that string, both at play and in the racquet head. Right now you just show you using a hybrid of undetermined character; are you a net player, do you need "touch", just what does "crisp" do in your case???

Okay, good points. Here, I tried to define crisp.:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=190835


To me crisp strings give a pingy sound (sharp, high-pitched twangy or zingy noise) when the ball comes off the stringbed, and there is good vibrational feedback to the hand and arm at that instant to let you know how well you hit the ball.

To me crisp strings feel lively, so maybe they have a little bit of bite, pop, and feel thrown in. I think crisp might also have to do with tension, because ball-pocketing probably plays a role here. That is I think crisp tells about the ball on the strings. Whereas soft, mushy, dead, or muted strings tells me nothiing. Is "crisp" the opposite of dead or muted, probably, but also very different from hard or boardy, and also different from mushy.

I am an all-court player. I don't mind going to the net, and I don't mind trading baseline shots.

I want my whole string-bed to feel crisp--not mushy and not hard. The hybrid combo should impart feedback to my brain about the ball. Maybe crisp to me means moderately stiff but with touch and feedback.

Does it come from the poly mains or the synth/multi crosses? Good question. (I believe not much from the mains, because when i have tried full poly beds, I didn't like them. They felt hard and stiff and plasticy--not crisp. IMO)
 
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Valjean

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I don't think poly-based racquet play affords enough scope to touch and feel to achieve "crisp" for you, no matter how defined. I also don't know how you find it, then, as long as you incorporate one. If you try one of these out solo, and then still decide to try and hybrid it, come back and say what combining it with poly did to the feel you previously had, would you, too???

1. Wilson's NXT OS
2. Babolat's Syntronic Brio
3. Babolat's Attraction/Attraction Power
 
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hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Sounds like an interesting idea.

1. Babolat Syntronic Brio 16 Nylon 1.34 197
2. Babolat Attraction Power 17 Nylon 1.26 186
3. Babolat Attraction 16 Nylon 1.30 189
4. Prince Synth Gut w/Duraflex 18 Nylon 1.20 203

I once tried a full-bed of PSGD 18.

I didn't like it at all. It wasn't crisp at all IMO, just hard with little feel.
 
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origmarm

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Interesting comments on the PSGD. For me it might be tension related as I have also felt it was hard at sub 60lb tensions. At 62 for me this starts to sing. I've had it as high as 65. Most syn gut I wouldn't string above 60 normally.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I think I had the full-bed of PSGD at 60 in my old 18 X 20. Yeccchhh!

(Sorry, going to a higher tension just seemed counter-intuitive)
 
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