Customizing TT Warrior
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gmlasam
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I don't know the exact number on the customized swing weight of the Warrior, but I can feel the swing weight is a little more compared to my 80's POG mid, but not extremely noticeable, and not so much like the TT Graphite where it can feel almost like hitting a log. The Warrior is very Aerodynamic, the frame has that PD type edge to its frame kind of look to cut through the air. The Warrior is not as head light compared to the POG mid, perhaps due to the POG's smaller .93 sq head size.!<-_->! said:
The Warrior has much more power, but easily controllable unlike the TT bandit. You can actually swing out can can keep the ball deep just a few feet inside the baseline. It is a very spin friendly racquet for greater margin for error, and a confidence builder on your ground storkes.
I have played it with my Warrior again this morning, played doubles, and actually got some good compliments with it. One of the guys I was playing with was impressed and he and I went over to Racket Doctor and he picked himself a warrior as well
I will customize his and string it for him this week. 
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Your story makes me want to pick up 2 or 3 to replace my PT 280s, but your comment of much more power scares me just a bit. Have you ever had any experience with a PT 280 or anything similar to it? I'm not too worried about the forehand as I have a topspin forehand. But I am worried about my backhand, as it's relatively flat. And one other thing, how is your customized Warrior on the topic of comfort. I have shoulder pain right now, due to a too high of a swingweight combined with static weight on my PTs. Thus I would like to hear if the Warrior would be easier on the shoulder and other joints.
Thanks.
Thanks.
gmlasam
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I have a couple of PC in my collection so that is closest to the PT 280 I can get!<-_->! said:
Prince's power rating for the POG mid is 600 which is the lowest power Prince makes, the POG OS is rated at 700, and most of the current Prince player's racquets are rated in the 800s which the Worrior OS is. Most Prince mid plus size players racquets are in the 800s, but the Warrior OS is at the same power level. Pretty low power for current Prince racquets, specially an OS IMHO, but of course much more power than the classic POG mid.
As far as comfort, the Warrior is very comfortable, even off centered hits are very forgiving compared to the POG mid, but with the added comfort of course you sacrifice a little on the traditional ball feel which the POG mid and RD-7 has. The sweet spot on the Warrior is by far the sweetest feeling compared to both POG and RD-7.
I hit very heavy topspin on both wings, two handed backhander, so it would really be a good idea to demo the Warrior before purchasing one.
gmlasam
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Nope. When need to flatten the ball, I'm usually in the attaching apporach, and coming in towards the net. When I flatten the ball, I angle the head a little more closed face so I can really kill it. I haven't had any problems at all controlling the Warrior OS.!<-_->! said:
I swing full out as always with the Warrior, as I normally do with my POG mid and Yonex RD-7.
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Tennis Boi
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im going to keep this thread alive so more people will start using warriors.
I use a stock warriror OS and I've played for 2-3 years with a pog os. I don't know anything about the "beam" on either one but the warrior IMHO is a lot quicker at the net than the pog os even though their swingweights appear comporable. IMHO compared to the pog os:
-The warriror- hits more penetrating volleys.
-you can keep almost any kind of groundstroke deeper with the warriror. If you're at the baseline and you have to hit a half volley at your feet with the warrior your shot will be deep and crisp. with the pog os this shots tend to result in sitters. yet with decent prep you can keep your groundies in.
The warriror os is the only stick that I tried (NXG OS, RDX MP, Yonex ti-80) that hits volleys and groundies harder than the pog os yet they stay in.
-The warriror- hits more penetrating volleys.
-you can keep almost any kind of groundstroke deeper with the warriror. If you're at the baseline and you have to hit a half volley at your feet with the warrior your shot will be deep and crisp. with the pog os this shots tend to result in sitters. yet with decent prep you can keep your groundies in.
The warriror os is the only stick that I tried (NXG OS, RDX MP, Yonex ti-80) that hits volleys and groundies harder than the pog os yet they stay in.
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federer_nadal
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I am thinkingg of getting a warrior MP what other racquets are like this?
federer_nadal
Professional
i recon use foam because it is easier to take out
Mike Penick
New User
I beefed up my midplus Warrior to 12 oz. strung with lead tape on at 3 and 9 oclock and some fishing weights in the butt. It makes it more head light and moves the sweet spot closer to the middle, instead of towards the top of the hoop. It's wonderful. I can't compare it to the OS, but I like it very much, and it cured my tennis elbow!
fishuuuuu
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Since this thread is revived again ... I'll mention what I did to my 3 Warriors ...
Lots of lead tape at 3 and 9 and under the handle ... All is good except the sweetspot is too huge ... that and tension loss from my BB ALU Rough (It's like under 50lbs now) ... if I were to stay with this racquet I would have to move the tape from the 3 and 9 and add it to the 6 and use softer and less powerful string because it's just too gosh darn powerful.
Lots of lead tape at 3 and 9 and under the handle ... All is good except the sweetspot is too huge ... that and tension loss from my BB ALU Rough (It's like under 50lbs now) ... if I were to stay with this racquet I would have to move the tape from the 3 and 9 and add it to the 6 and use softer and less powerful string because it's just too gosh darn powerful.
raftermania
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Why were you dissatisfied with the stock warrior?
raftermania,
Just curious as to which TT Warrior model you use. Is it the midplus or the oversize?
The Prince rep has been given me a couple of new 'oldstock' Warriors (midplus) to use with the guys I assist (wont use the word 'coach' until I pass the qualification). Unusually poor weather hasn't really given me the chance to do much hitting with them yet, apart from just feeding balls to players, so I haven't really found out what they're like. Ive been wanting to find a replacement for my beloved Prince Mono and thought the Warrior midplus might be the answer, my only concern being the much higher flex rating on the Warrior. The offer is also there to pick up the Diablo midplus (much closer in specs to the Mono) or the 03Tour both of which are closer in flex to the Mono.
If you are hitting the midplus version, how do you find it in terms of stiffness (the Mono is rated a 62 for flex and its the thing Im most sensitive too - not partial to stiff racquets, the Bab PD being the only exception), control and power?
Im sure I could find those things out for myself but it doesnt look like we're going to get a break with the weather for at least a week and then we've got the State championships which will tie up the courts for 3 weeks. So, apart a brief hit here or there (we dont have indoor courts as the weather is USUALLY lol, an even 25 degrees) I wont get much play for a month. Let me know what your thoughts are - better too if you've hit the Diablo.
Thanks mate.
Just curious as to which TT Warrior model you use. Is it the midplus or the oversize?
The Prince rep has been given me a couple of new 'oldstock' Warriors (midplus) to use with the guys I assist (wont use the word 'coach' until I pass the qualification). Unusually poor weather hasn't really given me the chance to do much hitting with them yet, apart from just feeding balls to players, so I haven't really found out what they're like. Ive been wanting to find a replacement for my beloved Prince Mono and thought the Warrior midplus might be the answer, my only concern being the much higher flex rating on the Warrior. The offer is also there to pick up the Diablo midplus (much closer in specs to the Mono) or the 03Tour both of which are closer in flex to the Mono.
If you are hitting the midplus version, how do you find it in terms of stiffness (the Mono is rated a 62 for flex and its the thing Im most sensitive too - not partial to stiff racquets, the Bab PD being the only exception), control and power?
Im sure I could find those things out for myself but it doesnt look like we're going to get a break with the weather for at least a week and then we've got the State championships which will tie up the courts for 3 weeks. So, apart a brief hit here or there (we dont have indoor courts as the weather is USUALLY lol, an even 25 degrees) I wont get much play for a month. Let me know what your thoughts are - better too if you've hit the Diablo.
Thanks mate.
raftermania
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AndrewD said:
Hi Andrew,
I'm afraid I can't help you too much. I use the OS version, which is weighted up. Also, the diablo has never been available at my local pro shop for demo.
AFAIK with the old stock MP Warriors they are more prone to throat breakage than the OS sticks - could be speculation or maybe not. I've seen ads for the Prince Mono in old Tennis magazines I have, they look pretty sweet - Jimbo used them at one point in his racquet experimentation phase? I would think they are also pretty prone to throat breakage too, since there is only one support beam?
Though, I would imagine that because there is not a double throat like what predominates today that it would offer a more flexible frame that would not torque too much?
The Diablo is VERY head light, I would caution using it if you have had wrist problems in the past - otherwise try adding some lead tape to the loop to balance things out. I'd presume it'd be very maneuverable with volleys. Do you play a lot of net?
Good luck with the coaching certification!
raftermania
Here's the prince mono for those who are not familiar with it,
sort of like a magic wand, eh?
raftermania,
Thanks very much. It does seem as though the OS Warrior is by far the most popular, which is quite a surprise - generally seems to be the other way around. I've heard those warnings about the Warrior cracking in the throat and on another thread someone said that it is the early version that is most prone. Apparently you can tell which version you have by the serial number on the throat. Can't remember what those numbers were but a search will turn up the result.
The Mono, I find, doesn't play quite as flexibly as you would imagine. Never had a problem with it cracking but have heard others say that the racquet does twist a lot on off-centre shots. That hasn't been my experience at all and, with a 97sq headsize, if you're hitting off centre then dont think you can blame the racquet. All up, the best volleying frame -bar none- and the most effortless and potent slice of any racquet Ive ever used. If you're a serve-volley player like me it's a god send.
Unfortunately, too hard to find these days and too expensive, generally, when you find one. So have to make a change. Been trying since last October and still haven't found a suitable replacement. Should have stuck to demoing only Prince frames (got put off after a horrendous experience with the POG OS) as the grip shape and head shape would lend themselves to a better match than something like Volkl or Head which, nice though they are, are quite a change from what I liked.
I see that the Diablo is 10pts head light. Even for a serve-volley player like myself that is pretty extreme. Thankfully it has a lower swingweight so adding weight to the upper part of the hoop to make it less head light, would be an easy fix as well as making it more stable. The Mono is 8pts HL and that suits me so 6 grams would still have the Diablo under 12 ounces and make the balance a bit more realistic.
The 03 is a curious beast and, as nice as it is, Im just not sure it's the way to go. I will say, however, I've only seen one other racquet be so openly adopted by the bulk of a company's signed players and that was the Babolat PD.
Thanks very much. It does seem as though the OS Warrior is by far the most popular, which is quite a surprise - generally seems to be the other way around. I've heard those warnings about the Warrior cracking in the throat and on another thread someone said that it is the early version that is most prone. Apparently you can tell which version you have by the serial number on the throat. Can't remember what those numbers were but a search will turn up the result.
The Mono, I find, doesn't play quite as flexibly as you would imagine. Never had a problem with it cracking but have heard others say that the racquet does twist a lot on off-centre shots. That hasn't been my experience at all and, with a 97sq headsize, if you're hitting off centre then dont think you can blame the racquet. All up, the best volleying frame -bar none- and the most effortless and potent slice of any racquet Ive ever used. If you're a serve-volley player like me it's a god send.
Unfortunately, too hard to find these days and too expensive, generally, when you find one. So have to make a change. Been trying since last October and still haven't found a suitable replacement. Should have stuck to demoing only Prince frames (got put off after a horrendous experience with the POG OS) as the grip shape and head shape would lend themselves to a better match than something like Volkl or Head which, nice though they are, are quite a change from what I liked.
I see that the Diablo is 10pts head light. Even for a serve-volley player like myself that is pretty extreme. Thankfully it has a lower swingweight so adding weight to the upper part of the hoop to make it less head light, would be an easy fix as well as making it more stable. The Mono is 8pts HL and that suits me so 6 grams would still have the Diablo under 12 ounces and make the balance a bit more realistic.
The 03 is a curious beast and, as nice as it is, Im just not sure it's the way to go. I will say, however, I've only seen one other racquet be so openly adopted by the bulk of a company's signed players and that was the Babolat PD.
