Develop A Great Approach Shot.

[thomas daniels]

Let's get right into it today!!

The one shot that can help you start closing out more points in matches is...

The Approach Shot.

During tennis competition.

You must first be able to defend like the pros. (This means being able to deal with oncoming power)

You also must be able to transition from the backcourt to the mid-court and then to the frontcourt area very smoothly and with dynamic movement.

Don't worry about your net game though.

Because if you develop a GREAT consistent approach shot.

All you will have to do then is block the ball into the open court after you come in.

Many juniors are making things too difficult for themselves in matches.

And as a result.

They have what I called.

Net Phobia. They are afraid to come in when they get a short ball!!

Then when they do come into the net.

They try to style it too much and end up missing the volley.

Anyway.

Here is what you need to do...

Develop a great approach shot by never going for the lines and using a lot of spin and a lot of racket head speed.

"By the way, always work on your RACKET head control in practice and at home".

In modern tennis.

They called this learning the "Ping Pong Tennis Swing".

Because the swing is similar to the way you use a table tennis racket.

Your swing is all compact and you are hitting the ball on the rise.

The best way to improve on your approach shot is by hitting a ton of reps in practice and adjusting after each one, until you discover the stroke.

So, don't work on your approach shot for 1 day or 1 week and get frustrated with your progress.

Just keep working the reps.

Until to you discover your sweet spot!!

Most tennis players never get that...

In learning any stroke.

You have to go through the learning curve.

So, your job is to find a way to leapfrog the learning curve.

One way you can do that.

Is by watching videos and then doing tons of shadow swings before you start doing the reps. This concept will imprint the stroke on your subconscious mind and you will be able to allow it to work through you on the court.

Also, go through the movement and the footwork without hitting the ball at first.

Here is the big payoff for you.

After you develop a great approach shot.

You will be closing out more points in games and you will end up winning more tennis matches!!!

Things to remember too.

"Never miss the approach shot".

"Look to use a lot of racket head speed and keep the ball deep". (Focus on working the outside of the ball)

And last.

" Never miss the easy volley that you should have up there!!"

All you need to do is block the ball in the open court and get mentally ready to play the next point.

Yes!!

By developing a great approach shot.

You will make the volley that much easier to execute!

To close out the point!

 

[rogerroger917]

Someone come over to my house and smash up my computer. Thank you.

 

[Curious]

Someone come over to my house and smash up my computer. Thank you.

Is it because of his one line paragraphs?!

 

[Topspin Shot]

Haha this is the worst advice ever.

Lots of spin and keep the ball deep and away from the lines?

On your approach shots?

That's gonna get you passed every time.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

You also must be able to transition from the backcourt to the mid-court and then to the frontcourt area very smoothly and with dynamic movement.

But how does one do that? It's one thing to recommend moving smoothly and dynamically. But if you don't provide a method of doing this, the person isn't just going to be able to turn on smooth and dynamic movement; it must be practiced like any other skill.

How about these:

Don't worry about your net game though.
Because if you develop a GREAT consistent approach shot.
All you will have to do then is block the ball into the open court after you come in.

I don't know about ignoring the net game. You may want to teach the approach in isolation of the volley so the student can grasp more quickly the concepts of the former without having to worry about technique for the latter but your advice seems to exclude the net game altogether.

Many juniors are making things too difficult for themselves in matches.
And as a result.
They have what I called.
Net Phobia. They are afraid to come in when they get a short ball!!

I think they are coached that way. I don't think the juniors are making this decision.

Then when they do come into the net.

They try to style it too much and end up missing the volley.

I think this is true at a lot of levels, not just juniors. The problem is that they do too much.

Anyway.
Here is what you need to do...
Develop a great approach shot by never going for the lines and using a lot of spin and a lot of racket head speed.

Totally agree with the "line" part but not necessarily about the "a lot of spin and RHS": if someone goes overboard with these two, they will end up making more errors, which also contradicts your other principle of never missing the approach. The player should definitely work on spin and RHS; whether one dials it back to get more accuracy is usually determined by the philosophy of the coach [ie "keep swinging and eventually you'll get it"].

"By the way, always work on your RACKET head control in practice and at home".

In modern tennis.

This called this learning the "Ping Pong Tennis Swing".

Because the swing is similar to the way you use a table tennis racket.

Who uses this phrase? I've never heard it. And I've played a lot of ping pong and I don't necessarily see the analogy. Are you talking only topspin or also slice? Please elaborate.

Your swing is all compact and you are hitting the ball on the rise.

If you have time to take a full swing, why wouldn't you?

And you won't necessarily be hitting on-the-rise; that's determined by how aggressive you are in deciding what type of opponent shot to approach on [the more aggressive you are, the more likely you'll take it on-the-rise].

You have to go through the learning curve.
So, your job is to find a way to leapfrog the learning curve.
One way you can do that.
Is by watching videos and then doing tons of shadow swings before you start doing the reps. This concept will imprint the stroke on your subconscious mind and you will be able to allow it to work through you on the court.
Also, go through the movement and the footwork without hitting the ball at first.

I wouldn't call shadow swinging "leapfrogging the learning curve"; I'd simply call it part of the learning curve.

Here is the big payoff for you.
After you develop a great approach shot.
You will be closing out more points in games and you will end up winning more tennis matches!!!

The nice thing is that it adds a dimension to your game and will make you a better all-around player.

Things to remember too.
"Never miss the approach shot".
"Look to use a lot of racket head speed and keep the ball deep". (Focus on working the outside of the ball)
And last.
" Never miss the easy volley that you should have up there!!"
All you need to do is block the ball in the open court and get mentally ready to play the next point.

Just blocking it into the open court might not be enough, though; you also need to work on technique to close out those points with good volleys.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

Haha this is the worst advice ever.

Lots of spin and keep the ball deep and away from the lines?

On your approach shots?

That's gonna get you passed every time.

I guess it depends on how well he hits it and where the opponent is: if he's on the other side of the court and you can stretch him out, it's reasonable advice. If I'm hitting into his wheelhouse, not so reasonable.

 

[Topspin Shot]

I guess it depends on how well he hits it and where the opponent is: if he's on the other side of the court and you can stretch him out, it's reasonable advice. If I'm hitting into his wheelhouse, not so reasonable.

If he's on the other side of the court and you can stretch him out, you don't need to worry about depth or heavy spin. That's the sort of thing that will cause you to make errors and/or give him enough time to chase your ball down. Just hit a medium pace ball without too much spin and angle it away from him.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

If he's on the other side of the court and you can stretch him out, you don't need to worry about depth or heavy spin. That's the sort of thing that will cause you to make errors and/or give him enough time to chase your ball down. Just hit a medium pace ball without too much spin and angle it away from him.

I approach a lot and I agree: I'm looking to set myself up for the volley putaway [or the OH], not to win the point outright. I figure the odds are in my favor at that point so playing the percentages means getting the darn approach in and letting probability take over.

 

[travlerajm]

I used to rush the net on every point.

Then I switched to poly type spin strings 10 years ago for more spin, and developed netphobia.

I ditched the poly crosses recently, and my chronic case of netphobia was suddenly cured!

 

[rogerroger917]

Is it because of his one line paragraphs?!

Because his advice amounts to nothing more than "hit more aces and you will win more matches".

 

[Hmgraphite1]

Let's get right into it today!!

The one shot that can help you start closing out more points in matches is...

The Approach Shot.

During tennis competition.

You must first be able to defend like the pros. (This means being able to deal with oncoming power)

You also must be able to transition from the backcourt to the mid-court and then to the frontcourt area very smoothly and with dynamic movement.

Don't worry about your net game though.

Because if you develop a GREAT consistent approach shot.

All you will have to do then is block the ball into the open court after you come in.

Many juniors are making things too difficult for themselves in matches.

And as a result.

They have what I called.

Net Phobia. They are afraid to come in when they get a short ball!!

Then when they do come into the net.

They try to style it too much and end up missing the volley.

Anyway.

Here is what you need to do...

Develop a great approach shot by never going for the lines and using a lot of spin and a lot of racket head speed.

"By the way, always work on your RACKET head control in practice and at home".

In modern tennis.

This called this learning the "Ping Pong Tennis Swing".

Because the swing is similar to the way you use a table tennis racket.

Your swing is all compact and you are hitting the ball on the rise.

The best way to improve on your approach shot is by hitting a ton of reps in practice and adjusting after each one, until you discover the stroke.

So, don't work on your approach shot for 1 day or 1 week and get frustrated with your progress.

Just keep working the reps.

Until to you discover your sweet spot!!

Most tennis players never get that...

In learning any stroke.

You have to go through the learning curve.

So, your job is to find a way to leapfrog the learning curve.

One way you can do that.

Is by watching videos and then doing tons of shadow swings before you start doing the reps. This concept will imprint the stroke on your subconscious mind and you will be able to allow it to work through you on the court.

Also, go through the movement and the footwork without hitting the ball at first.

Here is the big payoff for you.

After you develop a great approach shot.

You will be closing out more points in games and you will end up winning more tennis matches!!!

Things to remember too.

"Never miss the approach shot".

"Look to use a lot of racket head speed and keep the ball deep". (Focus on working the outside of the ball)

And last.

" Never miss the easy volley that you should have up there!!"

All you need to do is block the ball in the open court and get mentally ready to play the next point.

Yes!!

By developing a great approach shot.

You will make the volley that much easier to execute!

To close out the point!

I think I saw a vid describing ping pong fh as up and over so you land your right hand in your left front pocket. For topspin.
I am trying to develop more slice side spin approaches, these are the toughest for me to deal with cause they are faster through the court. Seems the top spin ones only work if really deep otherwise they are runned down.
Good advice, approach working, then think about volleying

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

I think I saw a vid describing ping pong fh as up and over so you land your right hand in your left front pocket. For topspin.
I am trying to develop more slice side spin approaches, these are the toughest for me to deal with cause they are faster through the court. Seems the top spin ones only work if really deep otherwise they are runned down.
Good advice, approach working, then think about volleying

So did that video say that the follow-through of an approach should be markedly different than that of a regular GS? Because that's what it seems like @thomas daniels is getting at.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

So did that video say that the follow-through of an approach should be markedly different than that of a regular GS? Because that's what it seems like @thomas daniels is getting at.

I gotta watch video still , but I recall seeing one years ago and another recently that had the finish low like putting right hand in left front pocket

 

[rogerroger917]

Omg people. The approach shot technique has everything to do with the ball you are approaching on. That's why TD has no idea what he is talking about. There is at the rudimentary level when training the approach shot 4 variations. That advanced players and or pros hit. If you are only considering balls near the service line.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

So did that video say that the follow-through of an approach should be markedly different than that of a regular GS? Because that's what it seems like @thomas daniels is getting at.

So these two videos focus on different things

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

I gotta watch video still , but I recall seeing one years ago and another recently that had the finish low like putting right hand in left front pocket

When I smash a ping pong ball, my swing path is typically parallel to the ground. In order for my hand to end up in my opposite pocket, I would have to swing more downward [which could happen if the ball was high].

 

[Hmgraphite1]

Omg people. The approach shot technique has everything to do with the ball you are approaching on. That's why TD has no idea what he is talking about. There is at the rudimentary level when training the approach shot 4 variations. That advanced players and or pros hit. If you are only considering balls near the service line.

In my practice clinics there is " hit approach". What are the variations?

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

Omg people. The approach shot technique has everything to do with the ball you are approaching on. That's why TD has no idea what he is talking about. There is at the rudimentary level when training the approach shot 4 variations. That advanced players and or pros hit. If you are only considering balls near the service line.

Agreed. And I slice a lot of my approaches [especially in doubles] so that adds a completely new set of variables [I'm definitely NOT going for huge racquet head speed or spin; I'm just trying to keep it low and preferably deep]. Amping up RHS and spin is a recipe for an error.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

When I smash a ping pong ball, my swing path is typically parallel to the ground. In order for my hand to end up in my opposite pocket, I would have to swing more downward [which could happen if the ball was high].

Its a topspin shot , low to high to low.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

Its a topspin shot , low to high to low.

A TS shot does not need the last "to low" part.

In fact, I would think it would be extremely difficult [not to mention straining on your elbow] to try and force your follow-through back down low after already having gone low to high. I can't recall ever doing that in either ping pong or tennis.

 

[Wise one]

Let's get right into it today!!

The one shot that can help you start closing out more points in matches is...

The Approach Shot.

During tennis competition.

You must first be able to defend like the pros. (This means being able to deal with oncoming power)

You also must be able to transition from the backcourt to the mid-court and then to the frontcourt area very smoothly and with dynamic movement.

Don't worry about your net game though.

Because if you develop a GREAT consistent approach shot.

All you will have to do then is block the ball into the open court after you come in.

Many juniors are making things too difficult for themselves in matches.

And as a result.

They have what I called.

Net Phobia. They are afraid to come in when they get a short ball!!

Then when they do come into the net.

They try to style it too much and end up missing the volley.

Anyway.

Here is what you need to do...

Develop a great approach shot by never going for the lines and using a lot of spin and a lot of racket head speed.

"By the way, always work on your RACKET head control in practice and at home".

In modern tennis.

This called this learning the "Ping Pong Tennis Swing".

Because the swing is similar to the way you use a table tennis racket.

Your swing is all compact and you are hitting the ball on the rise.

The best way to improve on your approach shot is by hitting a ton of reps in practice and adjusting after each one, until you discover the stroke.

So, don't work on your approach shot for 1 day or 1 week and get frustrated with your progress.

Just keep working the reps.

Until to you discover your sweet spot!!

Most tennis players never get that...

In learning any stroke.

You have to go through the learning curve.

So, your job is to find a way to leapfrog the learning curve.

One way you can do that.

Is by watching videos and then doing tons of shadow swings before you start doing the reps. This concept will imprint the stroke on your subconscious mind and you will be able to allow it to work through you on the court.

Also, go through the movement and the footwork without hitting the ball at first.

Here is the big payoff for you.

After you develop a great approach shot.

You will be closing out more points in games and you will end up winning more tennis matches!!!

Things to remember too.

"Never miss the approach shot".

"Look to use a lot of racket head speed and keep the ball deep". (Focus on working the outside of the ball)

And last.

" Never miss the easy volley that you should have up there!!"

All you need to do is block the ball in the open court and get mentally ready to play the next point.

Yes!!

By developing a great approach shot.

You will make the volley that much easier to execute!

To close out the point!

What are you on? Thorazine? You haven't the first clue about how to hit approach shots! You hit approach shots with slice and some sidespin, not topspin! Go away!

 

[Wise one]

Someone come over to my house and smash up my computer. Thank you.

Oh yeah!

 

[Hmgraphite1]

A TS shot does not need the last "to low" part.

In fact, I would think it would be extremely difficult [not to mention straining on your elbow] to try and force your follow-through back down low after already having gone low to high. I can't recall ever doing that in either ping pong or tennis.

Learned it from the yt coaches and employ it occasionally. Think of the hand not moving through space much but the racquet head moving low to high to low. Its not a driving shot through the ball but puts a maximum of spin with low pace, ball at be below the height of the net, in your service box, and you can swing with a max racquet head speed and get it to go into your opponents service box or deeper preferred but not long.

 

[thomas daniels]

I think I saw a vid describing ping pong fh as up and over so you land your right hand in your left front pocket. For topspin.
I am trying to develop more slice side spin approaches, these are the toughest for me to deal with cause they are faster through the court. Seems the top spin ones only work if really deep otherwise they are runned down.
Good advice, approach working, then think about volleying

Yea, it's the modern way to deal with power these days!!

 

[thomas daniels]

What are you on? Thorazine? You haven't the first clue about how to hit approach shots! You hit approach shots with slice and some sidespin, not topspin! Go away!

That's for the backhand!! I'm talking forehand here!!

 

[Hmgraphite1]

A TS shot does not need the last "to low" part.

In fact, I would think it would be extremely difficult [not to mention straining on your elbow] to try and force your follow-through back down low after already having gone low to high. I can't recall ever doing that in either ping pong or tennis.

Because the hand doesn't go up the racquet spins around and comes back down. No pressure on elbow, but wrist somewhat possibly.

 

[thomas daniels]

In my practice clinics there is " hit approach". What are the variations?

If the ball it slow, big loop and flow, if it's low, use the ping pong swing.

 

[Wise one]

If the ball it slow, big loop and flow, if it's low, use the ping pong swing.

No! Go away! You know NOTHING!

 

[thomas daniels]

No! Go away! You know NOTHING!

So why you wasting time reading the post!!

 

[rogerroger917]

In my practice clinics there is " hit approach". What are the variations?

Ask TD. He hasn't explained 1 yet properly.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

Ask TD. He hasn't explained 1 yet properly.

Without breaking down to location trying to hit (cc,dtl) I see a flat, sidespin recommended by the WISEONE, and a topspin one.
Not sure there are other ways to hit it?

 

[rogerroger917]

Without breaking down to location trying to hit (cc,dtl) I see a flat, sidespin recommended by the WISEONE, and a topspin one.
Not sure there are other ways to hit it?

The 2 most important techniques. See if TD can tell you. He has no idea.

 

[Wise one]

So why you wasting time reading the post!!

If you get a short ball in the middle 2/3 of the court, keep the ball in front of you, towards the center of the court, regardless of where the opponent is. That way, he has to hit a diagonal shot and possibly hit it wide. Hit with slice/sidespin to keep the ball low. If you get a short ball near the side-line, hit a drop shot or sharp topspin crosscourt.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

The 2 most important techniques. See if TD can tell you. He has no idea.

Perhaps volleying out of the air to prevent the moony

 

[Topspin Shot]

Its a topspin shot , low to high to low.

That may be a topspin shot, but this is a Topspin Shot.

 

[Bender]

Are you trying to write a haiku?

 

[Deleted member 23235]

Let's get right into it today!!

The one shot that can help you start closing out more points in matches is...

The Approach Shot.

During tennis competition.

You must first be able to defend like the pros. (This means being able to deal with oncoming power)

You also must be able to transition from the backcourt to the mid-court and then to the frontcourt area very smoothly and with dynamic movement.

Don't worry about your net game though.

Because if you develop a GREAT consistent approach shot.

All you will have to do then is block the ball into the open court after you come in.

Many juniors are making things too difficult for themselves in matches.

And as a result.

They have what I called.

Net Phobia. They are afraid to come in when they get a short ball!!

Then when they do come into the net.

They try to style it too much and end up missing the volley.

Anyway.

Here is what you need to do...

Develop a great approach shot by never going for the lines and using a lot of spin and a lot of racket head speed.

"By the way, always work on your RACKET head control in practice and at home".

In modern tennis.

They called this learning the "Ping Pong Tennis Swing".

Because the swing is similar to the way you use a table tennis racket.

Your swing is all compact and you are hitting the ball on the rise.

The best way to improve on your approach shot is by hitting a ton of reps in practice and adjusting after each one, until you discover the stroke.

So, don't work on your approach shot for 1 day or 1 week and get frustrated with your progress.

Just keep working the reps.

Until to you discover your sweet spot!!

Most tennis players never get that...

In learning any stroke.

You have to go through the learning curve.

So, your job is to find a way to leapfrog the learning curve.

One way you can do that.

Is by watching videos and then doing tons of shadow swings before you start doing the reps. This concept will imprint the stroke on your subconscious mind and you will be able to allow it to work through you on the court.

Also, go through the movement and the footwork without hitting the ball at first.

Here is the big payoff for you.

After you develop a great approach shot.

You will be closing out more points in games and you will end up winning more tennis matches!!!

Things to remember too.

"Never miss the approach shot".

"Look to use a lot of racket head speed and keep the ball deep". (Focus on working the outside of the ball)

And last.

" Never miss the easy volley that you should have up there!!"

All you need to do is block the ball in the open court and get mentally ready to play the next point.

Yes!!

By developing a great approach shot.

You will make the volley that much easier to execute!

To close out the point!

Are you trying to write a haiku?

ode to the approach:
ping pong tennis swing
is shot needed to approach
and close at net fast

 

[rogerroger917]

ode to the approach:
ping pong tennis swing
is shot needed to approach
and close at net fast

Bravo bravo!!!! Haikus are the perfect response to the TD drivel.

 

[Deleted member 23235]

Bravo bravo!!!! Haikus are the perfect response to the TD drivel.

TD's posts remind me of what an instructor teaching tennis concepts would sound like if they spoke japanese, but are trying to communicate in english... so naturally there's alot of ambiguity in the translation
(

)
BUT TD is from the US, native english speaker, but living/teaching in Japan...

 

[rogerroger917]

TD's posts remind me of what an instructor teaching tennis concepts would sound like if they spoke japanese, but are trying to communicate in english... so naturally there's alot of ambiguity in the translation
(

)
BUT TD is from the US, native english speaker, but living/teaching in Japan...

It's amazing even without words the Japanese coach can impart technical knowledge. TD has not given ANYTHING that will improve anyones tennis skill.

 

[Stretchy Man]

And as a result.

They have what I called.

Is this English?

 

[r2473]

ode to the approach:
ping pong tennis swing
is shot needed to approach
and close at net fast

Your Haikus are hilarious. I always look for them in threads.

 

[Deleted member 23235]

Is this English?

most of his sentences, are not full sentences.
to me it sounds like he's trying to write a very verbose poem.
his "content" could be captured in a haiku...

 

[ChaelAZ]

most of his sentences, are not full sentences.
to me it sounds like he's trying to write a very verbose poem.
his "content" could be captured in a haiku...

 

[Deleted member 23235]

the way to net is by approach. ping pong tennis swing you must do.