Djokovic has just been mentally shattered by Nadal

[Nathaniel_Near]

GSM Rafael NADAL

Very good match in a number of ways, was well played. In the end, Nadal upped his level tremendously. Nole leaves the court almost in tears and avoids the interview and will be mentally crushed for some time I think. If they meet at Wimbledon, Nadal will crucify him.

Djokovic was maybe so emotional after because he had a thought for Jelena Gencic and how he couldn't bring the trophy home this time.

Personally I think he will be crushed by this and he best hope he doesn't run into Nadal again at Wimbledon, otherwise he's going to get butchered. He won't be ready for a quick turn around match.



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[DarkXBlazer]

Can someone PLEASE make me a GIF of Djokovic landing on the net, followed by a cut to Nadal doing his little finger-point at Djokovic? That made the match for me, hahaha.

 

[The Meat]

On clay, can't wait for Hard court season!!!

 

[Speranza]

GSM Rafael NADAL

Very good match in a number of ways, was well played. In the end, Nadal upped his level tremendously. Nole leaves the court almost in tears and avoids the interview and will be mentally crushed for some time I think. If they meet at Wimbledon, Nadal will crucify him.

Djokovic was maybe so emotional after because he had a thought for Jelena Gencic and how he couldn't bring the trophy home this time.

Personally I think he will be crushed by this and he best hope he doesn't run into Nadal again at Wimbledon, otherwise he's going to get butchered. He won't be ready for a quick turn around match.



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Holmes: Er, I don't think Nadal will EVER crucify Novak

 

[Tenez101]

Nadal came back from AO '12. Djokovic will come back from this.

 

[fps]

I don't know, I think he threw it away still worrying about Pascal Maria, the way the match was lost was so flippant, such a waste, I think the heat ended up frying his brain, and obviously the match, the situation, the player on the other side of the net.

Still, I feel Novak may be back in the locker room still not quite realising that the match is over. He'll kick himself later for letting it slip mentally like that. The overhead that started that service game said it all. THAT wasn't anything to do with loose clay at the back of the court.

 

[jm1980]

Djokovic will be just fine.

Nadal wasn't mentally shattered after losing 7 in a row. That's not what champions do.

 

[aldeayeah]

Can someone PLEASE make me a GIF of Djokovic landing on the net, followed by a cut to Nadal doing his little finger-point at Djokovic? That made the match for me, hahaha.

With a little editing, it could look like Nadal shot a beam at him and he fell over

 

[Breaker]

surface: clay

 

[Steve0904]

Djokovic may use it for a positive instead of a negative. I could see Djokovic bouncing back at Wimbledon because if he's that close on clay, he easily has the ability to beat Nadal at Wimbledon. In fact, guys like Brands and Klizan could beat Nadal at Wimbledon.

 

[President]

Djokovic may use it for a positive instead of a negative. I could see Djokovic bouncing back at Wimbledon because if he's that close on clay, he easily has the ability to beat Nadal at Wimbledon. In fact, guys like Brands and Klizan could beat Nadal at Wimbledon.

But Djokovic is much better on clay than on grass. Nadal is the better grasscourter, he should beat him at Wimbledon this year if they meet IMO especially following this victory.

 

[BeHappy]

Low quality match by their standards. Nadal's speed is gone. Djoker is no longer Djesus. Very exciting in terms of human drama though.

 

[spinovic]

Djokovic will be just fine.

Nadal wasn't mentally shattered after losing 7 in a row. That's not what champions do.

Yeah. They're made of more resilient stuff than anonymous internet fanboy posters.:twisted:

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Nadal came back from AO '12. Djokovic will come back from this.

Sure, but in 3 or 4 weeks???

 

[World Beater]

Uh no.

if djokovic plays at this level, he can beat nadal easier on grass and hardcourts.

did you not see how many pts nadal won because of his crazy clay court retrieving skills. that wont happen on a grass court or on a hard cour.

 

[Tenez101]

Sure, but in 3 or 4 weeks???

Not saying that (Nadal didn't either), just in the long term.

 

[borg number one]

Yes, I think Nadal could very well win the FO and then he'll be very tough at Wimbledon.

 

[Steve0904]

But Djokovic is much better on clay than on grass. Nadal is the better grasscourter, he should beat him at Wimbledon this year if they meet IMO especially following this victory.

I don't think so. Besides, I'm not getting into this argument with you. We all know what you think of Djokovic's game, let alone on grass.

 

[Bud]

Nadal came back from AO '12. Djokovic will come back from this.

Agreed. Nadal should have closed out that match and was crushed when he lost. Champions pick themselves up, dust themselves off and move on. Both these guys are champions.

 

[namelessone]

Yeah. They're made of more resilient stuff than anonymous internet fanboy posters.:twisted:

Pretty much.

These 2 were separated literally by a couple of balls here and there.

Neither looked to be running away with the match.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Uh no.

if djokovic plays at this level, he can beat nadal easier on grass and hardcourts.

did you not see how many pts nadal won because of his crazy clay court retrieving skills. that wont happen on a grass court or on a hard cour.

I saw it and I agree. But I just can't see Nole recovering in time for Wimbledon... US Open he should be fine.


I would be very fearful if I were a Nole fan of a Nadal/Nole match at Wimbledon.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Low quality match by their standards. Nadal's speed is gone. Djoker is no longer Djesus. Very exciting in terms of human drama though.

I don't know what match you watched, but Nadal made some absolutely sick gets. And Djesus was in full effect playing his *** off at crucial moments to extend the match.

I saw it and I agree. But I just can't see Nole recovering in time for Wimbledon... US Open he should be fine.


I would be very fearful if I were a Nole fan of a Nadal/Nole match at Wimbledon.

They wanted Rafa, they got Rafa

 

[fps]

I don't know what match you watched, but Nadal made some absolutely sick gets. And Djesus was in full effect playing his *** off at crucial moments to extend the match.

Yeah it was unbelievable. Both at times conserved some energy where the dumb thing would have been to continue attempting miracle gets. But that was because they knew the match could, and did, go for five hours.

 

[Sid_Vicious]

I don't think so. Besides, I'm not getting into this argument with you. We all know what you think of Djokovic's game, let alone on grass.

Agreed. Djokovic is going to do better on grass IMO. Djokovic looks like he is on pins and needles when he trying to deal with Nadal's forehand on clay; a lower bounce suits Djokovic a lot better. Of course, that is not say that Djokovic will definitely beat Nadal,but I would put the chances higher than at the FO.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Djokovic now is favourite against Nadal on non clay surfaces so I doubt it. If they played at Wimbledon Djokovic would be the slight favourite and the massive favourite at the US Open.

 

[Sid_Vicious]

I don't know what match you watched, but Nadal made some absolutely sick gets. And Djesus was in full effect playing his *** off at crucial moments to extend the match.

Yup. Nadal was a wall in the 5th set. Ridiculous stuff and smart strategy because Djokovic is really not comfortable hitting the extra ball.

 

[Magnus]

GSM Rafael NADAL

Very good match in a number of ways, was well played. In the end, Nadal upped his level tremendously. Nole leaves the court almost in tears and avoids the interview and will be mentally crushed for some time I think. If they meet at Wimbledon, Nadal will crucify him.

Djokovic was maybe so emotional after because he had a thought for Jelena Gencic and how he couldn't bring the trophy home this time.

Personally I think he will be crushed by this and he best hope he doesn't run into Nadal again at Wimbledon, otherwise he's going to get butchered. He won't be ready for a quick turn around match.



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I really hope he's not going to be crushed mentally. Djokovic is the best thing in tennis atm, and yes, I'm a Fed fan saying that. He keeps it fresh and is a worthy #1, and more importantly has proven he is the only one able to vanquish evil.

 

[Tenez101]

Djokovic has the advantage on hardcourt and Nadal the advantage on natural surfaces (2 slams each). Seems fair.

 

[veroniquem]

Exactly. Very even rivalry.

 

[TMF]

But Djokovic is much better on clay than on grass. Nadal is the better grasscourter, he should beat him at Wimbledon this year if they meet IMO especially following this victory.

Last time the met on grass Nole won.

 

[Djokodal Fan]

I saw it and I agree. But I just can't see Nole recovering in time for Wimbledon... US Open he should be fine.


I would be very fearful if I were a Nole fan of a Nadal/Nole match at Wimbledon.

Nadal is the one who should fear. Novak has made progress each year in RG against Nadal. last year it was 4 sets. this year it was 5 sets in conditions favoring Nadal (Sunny, windy day with high bounce).

Don't jump the gun too fast mate. i hope they meet at Wimbledon and let us see how it pans out!

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Nadal is the one who should fear. Novak has made progress each year in RG against Nadal. last year it was 4 sets. this year it was 5 sets in conditions favoring Nadal (Sunny, windy day with high bounce).

Don't jump the gun too fast mate. i hope they meet at Wimbledon and let us see how it pans out!

Do you REALLY want that match right now?


*grins audaciously*

 

[T-Noone]

"All I can feel now is disappointment."
This is what I feared, although it's just the initial reaction. These two are top in the world right now by a mile. They both should be in the finals of both Wimbledon and USO.

 

[maruzo]

It's a much closer game than most people realize. So I don't think Djokovic is going into Wimbledon scared of Nadal.

If anything, he's gonna have sweet revenge in mind when he meet up with Nadal at Wimbledon.

 

[Goosehead]

lol wut djokovic mentally shattered ?, I don't think so, :neutral:

lets face reality: in ideal weather conditions for nadal and on nadals best surface..djokovic pushed nadal all the way to 9-7 in the 5th..

yeah ok he lost, but it was a positive defeat, where having beaten nadal in rome on clay..he was much closer than last years RG final, even though conditions favoured djokovic more last year.

as its been stated, on HC, or grass, or even clay again djokovic knows he can win..obviously nadal can also win but that's not the point of the thread.

erm..vamos, the story continues..........

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Now the next time Nole is likely to get a stab at Nadal in a Slam final is RG...


Oh dear.

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Now the next time Nole is likely to get a stab at Nadal in a Slam final is RG...


Oh dear.

Gleefully ressurecting a long-dormant thread of your so as to take a shot at Djoko after he just competed BRILLIANTLY and went to 9-7 in the 5th against a top 10 seed?

It's the fanboy way I guess....

Do you even play tennis?

Do you even appreciate what just took place between these two world-class great players?

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Is this the day you bump one thread after another to crow and troll in all your uncontrollable fanboy glory?

Djoko competed BRILLIANTLY and went to 9-7 in the 5th against a top 10 seed.

Do you even play tennis?

Do you even appreciate what just took place between these two world-class great players?

You seem very tense and hurt, but it is just the day of bumping one thread.

Bad luck to Nole, you know. It's just one match, but this is with the view that the next chance he might meet Nadal in an important Slam match won't be on a surface that gives Nole the natural advantage.

This event was a chance for Nole to reverse some damage and trends in Majors matches against his biggest rival.


Was a very good match, and I much enjoyed it.

And yes, I play several sports.

Ty.

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Don't be silly Nate, if you know anything about me and my "fAnBOY" witch hunt antics (lol) you know I am no fanboy partisan towards any of them (Fed, Rafa, Djoko et al).

On the contrary, matches like this "amp" me up, showing just how good theater tennis can be. I've seen on a number of occasions 'jocks' who play sports but do not play (NOR FOLLOW) tennis stumble across these epic type matches on TV and end up themselves get caught up in the competitive tension that builds with each service hold in the 5th set. As competitors, they can relate and they then "get it" as they realize that tennis is no different from many of the other 'popular' sports when it comest to "these guys really laying it out on the line" and as a result, the sport itself wins.

While I feel sorry for Djoko, at the same time had he have won, I have felt just as bad for Stan. Truth be told, since Stan hasn't had as many days in the sun, I'm a tad happier for Stan winning. He's a good, hard-working, talented (what a backhand!) dude who was very deserving of this win.

I don't see Djoko being irreparably crushed by this. It's not like this guy gave up his Aussie crown in some ho-hum 4-set loss to a middling (#15-17) seed.

9-7 in the 5th against a guy who extended him in previous matchest hardly suggests Novak doesn't have the mental wherewithall to come back with a resolute purpose.

After all, he too is a champion.

 

[TheF1Bob]

So even when he didn't play him, Nadal was the reason Wawrinka won?

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Don't be silly Nate, if you know anything about me and my "fAnBOY" witch hunt antics (lol) you know I am no fanboy partisan towards any of them (Fed, Rafa, Djoko et al).

On the contrary, matches like this "amp" me up, showing just how good theater tennis can be, how I've seen on a number of occasions 'jocks' who play sports but do not play (NOR FOLLOW) tennis get caught up in such ultra-competitive matches played at a such a high level as these ones---they "get it" when understanding that "hey these guys are really laying it out on the line" and the sport itself wins. I feel so sorry for Djoko...and had he have won, I have felt just as bad for Stan. Truth be told, since Stan hasn't had a many days in the sun, I'm a tad happier for Stan winning. He's a good, hard-working, talented (what a backhand!) dude who was very deserving on this win.

Djoko is hardly going to irreparably crushed by this. It's not like this guy gave up his crown in some ho-hum 4-set loss to a middling (#15-17) seed. 9-7 in the 5th against a guy who extended him in previous matchest hardly suggests Novak doesn't have the mental wherewithall to come back with a resolute purpose. After all, he too is a champion.

I am glad you are not hurt then, in which case, calm down. I love tennis and I love sport. I brought up what I felt was a valid point, in that it will be harder for him to reverse trends against Nadal now if his next match in a Major against him is at Roland Garros.

Best of luck to Nole in his quest there, we could do with a different winner of that event IMO.

Also I wasn't relating to Nole being crushed mentally by Stan in this match but more referring to how this is an opportunity missed to get one over on Nadal.

I also don't feel sorry for Djokovic, he's won an awful lot of tight matches in the past and has a great record in 5 setters. As he said in his press conference, he gave it his all.

 

[TheF1Bob]

I am glad you are not hurt then, in which case, calm down. I love tennis and I love sport. I brought up what I felt was a valid point, in that it will be harder for him to reverse trends against Nadal now if his next match in a Major against him is at Roland Garros.

It's not a valid point when he lost to someone else.

Best of luck to Nole in his quest there, we could do with a different winner of that event IMO.

Yes, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Don't be silly Nate, if you know anything about me and my "fAnBOY" witch hunt antics (lol) you know I am no fanboy partisan towards any of them (Fed, Rafa, Djoko et al).

On the contrary, matches like this "amp" me up, showing just how good theater tennis can be. I've seen on a number of occasions 'jocks' who play sports but do not play (NOR FOLLOW) tennis stumble across these matches on TV and end up get caught up in such ultra-competitive matches played at a such a high level as these ones---as competitors, they can relate and they "get it" when coming to appreciate the skill while understanding that "hey these guys are really laying it out on the line" and as a result, the sport itself wins. I feel so sorry for Djoko...and had he have won, I have felt just as bad for Stan. Truth be told, since Stan hasn't had a many days in the sun, I'm a tad happier for Stan winning. He's a good, hard-working, talented (what a backhand!) dude who was very deserving on this win.

Djoko is hardly going to irreparably crushed by this. It's not like this guy gave up his crown in some ho-hum 4-set loss to a middling (#15-17) seed. 9-7 in the 5th against a guy who extended him in previous matchest hardly suggests Novak doesn't have the mental wherewithall to come back with a resolute purpose. After all, he too is a champion.

This. Great post. I'm genuinely surprised at the moment to be reading so many nice posts, it's actually quite heartening to see so thank you.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

It's not a valid point when he lost to someone else.

You miss the point.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

So even when he didn't play him, Nadal was the reason Wawrinka won?

I missed this post. No, this isn't what I'm saying. My new response to this thread is to illustrate that by not reaching Nadal here, he's missed a chance to reverse trends against his biggest rival. Look chaps, I want Nadal dethroned at RG, no doubt in my mind, that though I cheered for Nadal last year, that my allegiance is different this year, though great tennis comes first.

Not quite as much as the Nole fans, but I would like to see Nole or SOMEBODY beat Nadal at RG this year, but I think the point stands, that the task just got even more difficult for Djokovic.

He lost at his palace, and at his palace it is very realistic to think that he could have earned another win against Nadal in a major, after all it has been a while now.


But.


It wasn't to be.

 

[TheF1Bob]

You miss the point.

Have I? You've resurrected this thread today and there's another thread just like that which was made today.

Novak losing to anyone is all thanks to Nadal it seems.

I missed this post. No, this isn't what I'm saying. My new response to this thread is to illustrate that by not reaching Nadal here, he's missed a chance to reverse trends against his biggest rival.

Okay, I see now.

My bad.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Have I? You've resurrected this thread today and there's another thread just like that which was made today.

Novak losing to anyone is all thanks to Nadal it seems.


Okay, I see now.

My bad.

I admit that I wasn't exactly clear because I bumped a thread that is largely irrelevant to the point instead of making a new thread. But yeah, I just think this loss is bad timing.

Actually this is the first real test for Djokovic, I think, since becoming a truly dominant and legendary force in the men's game.

He needs to respond now to this loss. His manner in the post match presser was very realistic and measured.

 

[Chanwan]

I admit that I wasn't exactly clear because I bumped a thread that is largely irrelevant to the point instead of making a new thread. But yeah, I just think this loss is bad timing.

Actually this is the first real test for Djokovic, I think, since becoming a truly dominant and legendary force in the men's game.

He needs to respond now to this loss. His manner in the post match presser was very realistic and measured.

I think he's had plenty of these tests already - and proved he could rise to the occasion going on a 28 match winning streak post his US Open loss.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

I think he's had plenty of these tests already - and proved he could rise to the occasion going on a 28 match winning streak post his US Open loss.

That didn't culminate in a Major though. He was on a good run but he still hasn't had a win over Nadal in a Major since AO 2012, so 2 years now. He's overcome tests but never something as big as this after becoming a dominant tennis force, where he's finally lost his throne (the Australian Open).