Djokovic set to hold special tell all press conference likely to address rumours surrounding injury at Australian Open

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Rosstour

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With all due respect to Novak, I think he's a sweet person with good intentions - but he doesn't need any more yes-men or personality cultists. His dad...Ivanisevic etc. are good for his morale but definitely NOT good for decision-making. He needs actual rational people like Vajda to tell him about the pros and cons of each decision and manipulate public opinion.

Why do you think he got rid of Vajda?

That was the last guy who was willing to tell him "no" or "this isn't a good idea"
 
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jm1980

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This reads more like a laundry list of things you don't like about Djokovic, than things that hurt his credibility
C'mon man how many times do we have to do this?

Big ones for me were Pepe...Adria Tour and blaming other players when it blew up in his face...PTPA/Kermode/Turin move...exposing the L'Equipe employees to COVID (or lying about it) and screwing Nina Stojanovic out of an opportunity to medal at 2020 Olympics after he lost the opportunity to get the Golden CYGS.

The anti-vax stuff and his on-court behavior are secondary but still cringey
Pepe: How did associating with Pepe hurt his credibility? He's just a new-agey guru who preaches peace and love. Probably brought in by Djokovic to reign in his blow ups on court, and it worked too, to his detriment. Djokovic sometimes needs anger to give him focus. Pepe hurt Djokovic more than anything

Adria Tour: It was Srdjan who blamed other players. You can't pin that on Novak anymore than you can blame Rafa for stuff Uncle Toni says. Djokovic himself called it a "witch hunt", which it was. I have no idea why he received all that flak for Adria. He is a tennis player, not a public health expert. The authorities in Serbia cleared the tournament, take it up to them, not Djokovic.

PTPA/Kermode: Kermode was ousted by a vote from the players in the ATP council. How does that hurt Djokovic's credibility? Sounds like the players weren't happy with Kermode. Same thing with the PTPA. It's something Djokovic initiated because he felt the needs and wants of the players weren't being properly addressed. If anything this bolsters his credibility: he sent a message, loud and clear, that he wasn't happy with how the ATP was running things.

L'Equipe/COVID: Half a point here on the credibility thing, since you could argue it's a lie by omission that he didn't tell the L'Equipe staff that he had COVID, though he did take his precautions, by distancing himself from the crew and always wearing his mask.

Stojanovic: She was only in that position at all thanks to Djokovic. Not sure why you think him pulling out of the match when he was obviously exhausted hurts his credibility at all.
 

HFK

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Stojanovic: She was only in that position at all thanks to Djokovic. Not sure why you think him pulling out of the match when he was obviously exhausted hurts his credibility at all.

When you're at the Olympics, you're playing for your country, not for yourself. If he didn't want to play for his country, he could have just played the individual. Stojanovic got screwed and all Serbians got screwed. And they loved it! Thank you sir, can I have more please!

He takes every opportunity to wrap himself in the flag, the big nationalist that lives in Monaco, but when his country needed him he got on a plane and left Tokyo. Tells hyou what he is about: himself.
 

jm1980

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When you're at the Olympics, you're playing for your country, not for yourself. If he didn't want to play for his country, he could have just played the individual. Stojanovic got screwed and all Serbians got screwed. And they loved it! Thank you sir, can I have more please!

He takes every opportunity to wrap himself in the flag, the big nationalist that lives in Monaco, but when his country needed him he got on a plane and left Tokyo. Tells hyou what he is about: himself.
Without Djokovic she wouldn't have been in that position in the first place
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
This reads more like a laundry list of things you don't like about Djokovic, than things that hurt his credibility

Pepe: How did associating with Pepe hurt his credibility? He's just a new-agey guru who preaches peace and love. Probably brought in by Djokovic to reign in his blow ups on court, and it worked too, to his detriment. Djokovic sometimes needs anger to give him focus. Pepe hurt Djokovic more than anything

Adria Tour: It was Srdjan who blamed other players. You can't pin that on Novak anymore than you can blame Rafa for stuff Uncle Toni says. Djokovic himself called it a "witch hunt", which it was. I have no idea why he received all that flak for Adria. He is a tennis player, not a public health expert. The authorities in Serbia cleared the tournament, take it up to them, not Djokovic.

PTPA/Kermode: Kermode was ousted by a vote from the players in the ATP council. How does that hurt Djokovic's credibility? Sounds like the players weren't happy with Kermode. Same thing with the PTPA. It's something Djokovic initiated because he felt the needs and wants of the players weren't being properly addressed. If anything this bolsters his credibility: he sent a message, loud and clear, that he wasn't happy with how the ATP was running things.

L'Equipe/COVID: Half a point here on the credibility thing, since you could argue it's a lie by omission that he didn't tell the L'Equipe staff that he had COVID, though he did take his precautions, by distancing himself from the crew and always wearing his mask.

Stojanovic: She was only in that position at all thanks to Djokovic. Not sure why you think him pulling out of the match when he was obviously exhausted hurts his credibility at all.

Pepe: it hurt his tennis and resulted in Becker and Vajda being pushed out of the team. And it made him look mentally weak--easily influenced by whacky, cultish guru figures.

Adria: ultimately it was his decision, no? He did so in defiance of all the guidance at the time and it was a catastrophe. Serbian authorities cleared it in deference to him as he is the most famous Serbian of all time. He should have been more responsible.

L'Equipe: thank you

Kermode: it was a coup engineered by Djokovic and it angered a lot more players than it helped. He got losers like Pospisil and also-rans like Isner to help him out. Forget Fedal, even Wawrinka was furious with him. And when even that wasn't enough, he formed the PTPA...AFTER ousting a popular president and replacing him with his own guy (Gaudenzi) and relocating the ATP Finals from London (the cultural birthplace of the game along with Paris) to Turin, which just happens to be near one of Djok's properties. Total self-serving move and it was all for nothing as he formed the PTPA anyway.

Stojanovic: Yeah, he helped her reach that point. But as soon as he couldn't get the personal glory he wanted, he lost interest. Exhausted? The guy has the greatest endurance the world has ever seen, and Olympic competition is supposed to be about something greater than personal glory.

I'm not even discussing the outbursts on court and the magical thinking, that's personal preference.
 

jm1980

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Meh... didn't expect you to look beyond the cult.
You're saying a singles tennis player, probably one of the most individualistic and lonely endeavors one can choose, is only about himself. Well, no sh**
 

jm1980

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Pepe: it hurt his tennis and resulted in Becker and Vajda being pushed out of the team. And it made him look mentally weak--easily influenced by whacky, cultish guru figures.
Yes but what does this have to do with his credibility?

Adria: ultimately it was his decision, no? He did so in defiance of all the guidance at the time and it was a catastrophe. Serbian authorities cleared it in deference to him as he is the most famous Serbian of all time. He should have been more responsible.
"All the guidance" from where though? Obviously not in Serbia or it wouldn't have been allowed to take place.

Kermode: it was a coup engineered by Djokovic and it angered a lot more players than it helped. He got losers like Pospisil and also-rans like Isner to help him out. Forget Fedal, even Wawrinka was furious with him. And when even that wasn't enough, he formed the PTPA...AFTER ousting a popular president and replacing him with his own guy (Gaudenzi) and relocating the ATP Finals from London (the cultural birthplace of the game along with Paris) to Turin, which just happens to be near one of Djok's properties. Total self-serving move and it was all for nothing as he formed the PTPA anyway.
Fedal and Wawrinka are part of the tennis establishment. It was clear at the time that the "losers" and "also-rans" needed a voice too. Props to Djokovic for giving them the opportunity.

I also don't see what's so wrong with the Tour finals being relocated from London; the Tour Finals have always rotated venues every few years. 12 years was the second longest it had been in one place (it was in NYC for 13 years).

Stojanovic: Yeah, he helped her reach that point. But as soon as he couldn't get the personal glory he wanted, he lost interest. Exhausted? The guy has the greatest endurance the world has ever seen, and Olympic competition is supposed to be about something greater than personal glory.
He was clearly exhausted. But even if he just came out and said he didn't want to play the match because he didn't want to, he was well within his rights to do so. It's like Federer showing up at the Tour Finals wearing a sweater to concede the final. You can't force people to play matches if they don't want to, for whatever reason
 

HFK

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Yes but what does this have to do with his credibility?


"All the guidance" from where though? Obviously not in Serbia or it wouldn't have been allowed to take place.


Fedal and Wawrinka are part of the tennis establishment. It was clear at the time that the "losers" and "also-rans" needed a voice too. Props to Djokovic for giving them the opportunity.

I also don't see what's so wrong with the Tour finals being relocated from London; the Tour Finals have always rotated venues every few years. 12 years was the second longest it had been in one place (it was in NYC for 13 years).


He was clearly exhausted. But even if he just came out and said he didn't want to play the match because he didn't want to, he was well within his rights to do so. It's like Federer showing up at the Tour Finals wearing a sweater to concede the final. You can't force people to play matches if they don't want to, for whatever reason

Djokovic IS the establishment. You have to be an idiot to think he's outside the establishment.
 

jm1980

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Djokovic IS the establishment. You have to be an idiot to think he's outside the establishment.
I said he gave a voice to those outside the establishment. Him doing that while being in the establishment, makes it even more admirable
 

Mustard

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Djokovic brought the whole team of doctors with him at the Press Conference. He has X-rays, MRI scans, blood test results, doctor diagnosis. :eek: The whole atmosphere in the conference room is very tense, almost explosive... o_O
Is this early April fools or reality?
 

Mustard

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I love it. But the hate he gets is out of place and discriminatory. I recall Nadal won RG last year with a foot that was not working. Why aren't you questioning him?
Horrible bigotry towards a man that never did anything to any of the journalists or any of TTW posters or tennis fans.
Because Nadal did not have a tear. He has a congenital condition in his foot and had a part of the foot numbed with injections so that he could play tennis matches at that time. When Nadal had an abdominal tear at Wimbledon last year, he didn't cruise to the title playing his best tennis like Djokovic at the 2021 Australian Open.
 
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