Do you pay for a newspaper subscription?

[Bartelby]

That would be Keynes then daylight for the 20th century and Marx in the 19th among a whole host of other brilliant economists.

I don't think anything great has happened in economics post war, and certainly not Friedman, but there are a few noteworthy people.

Yes, check out Milton Friedman, Nobel prize winner and greatest economist of the 20th century. Please!

 

[r2473]

Fair enough. I side with liberals on more than half the major issues, but funny you bring up abortion because for entirely non-religious reasons I believe the unborn have rights.

Endowment vs. Attainment

Pro-life will believe all humans are endowed with "personhood" (and therefore personal rights) just by virtue of being human.

Pro-choice will believe that "personhood" is attained at some stage of development (though they don't agree at what stage this is).
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I don't side fully with either side typically on any issue. But generally speaking, I was probably more on the liberal side when I was younger, but have probably gravitated more toward the conservative side. That said, on any given issue, I'm far from being a straight party line kind of guy.

 

[Bartelby]

If you look at it from the point of view of the woman there is no contradicton.

In many places, moreover, it is not two murders.

But the law is not very internally consistent. It's too piecemeal for that.

Abortion is legal, killing a pregnant woman is two murders. How do you feel about this contraction in our law?

 

[Chadillac]

If you look at it from the point of view of the woman there is no contradicton.

But the law is not very internally consistent. It's too piecemeal for that.

Having the mother decide if it counts as a person leads to (your man) obama's stance on infanticide. Its a person or it isnt. We shouldnt be able to decide 24hours after birth...

 

[Bartelby]

The mother might decide to abort late term because the doctor says her life is in danger without immediate treatment.

Is she a murderer, then?

 

[2nd Serve Ace]

That would be Keynes then daylight for the 20th century and Marx in the 19th among a whole host of other brilliant economists.

I don't think anything great has happened in economics post war, and certainly not Friedman, but there are a few noteworthy people.

Keynes and Marx are both flat Earth thinking. LOL. Totally discredited more than 40 years ago.

Move to Cuba or Venezuela and tell me how you like it!

 

[Bartelby]

Name your ten most influential books?

Keynes and Marx are both flat Earth thinking. LOL. Totally discredited more than 40 years ago.

Move to Cuba or Venezuela and tell me how you like it!

 

[Chadillac]

Name your ten most influential books?

You have let others sculp you, influence doesnt come from a book unless your one of those bible thumpers you bash.

Your top 10 are probably Fabio novels.

 

[Bartelby]

Corbyn looks like he just 'scalped' May.

 

[Sentinel]

If you look at it from the point of view of the woman there is no contradicton.

Just how do you manage to do that ?

 

[Sentinel]

Name your ten most influential books?

You probably tried reading "How to win friends and influence people" ten times but never got past the preface.



The idea of winning friends was probably too disgusting for you !

 

[sureshs]

I'm far from being a straight party line kind of guy.

I somehow always thought you were a straight guy, but I still respect you now.

 

[movdqa]

I hate to be a doomsayer, but household debt is higher than it was before the 2008 Great Recession. Something like 15 States are in a pension crisis. Nobody in Washington DC is willing to address the two drivers of deficits: Social Security and Medicare. Student loans are a giant bubble ready to burst.

I'm sorry millennials, but the baby boomers totally screwed you over!

The increase in household wealth is greater than the increase in household debt.

Banks have tightened up considerably on who they loan out money to so they won't likely have problems.

The problem is in parties that loan to higher credit risks and that includes the US government.

I think that something like 66% of graduates with student loans have under $25K in debt. That seems manageable to me.

Just read that household wealth in the stock market rose by $1.3 trillion.

In the first quarter of 2017.

 

[movdqa]

Yes, check out Milton Friedman, Nobel prize winner and greatest economist of the 20th century. Please!

r2473 is an accountant and likely understands the income, expenses and balance sheet far better than the average person.

 

[DUROC]

It is a safe haven for anti-Semites

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Utter Horsesh*t

 

[DUROC]

Doesn't Drudge just link to other news sites?
Rather then pontificate maybe you could share your news sources.

Drudge is a news aggregate site.........Matt Drudge on occasion will post his own stuff and opinion but overall it's the leader in pulling news from around the globe and posting in a single site

 

[DUROC]

To answer the op..........who reads newspapers anymore?

 

[movdqa]

There's anti-semitic behavior on the left and the right. You can see it on the left at universities in the divestment movements and in campus government at some schools. Some of the stuff against Israel and Jews has motivations related to the stuff happening in Qatar.

 

[movdqa]

To answer the op..........who reads newspapers anymore?

New York Times Stock Chart

 

[sureshs]

There's anti-semitic behavior on the left and the right. You can see it on the left at universities in the divestment movements and in campus government at some schools. Some of the stuff against Israel and Jews has motivations related to the stuff happening in Qatar.

Anti-Semitic behavior of the left is justified and directed at Israel, which has occupied Palestinian land and treated Palestinians the same way that Jews were treated before Israel was formed. Other than a few countries like US and UK which are bound by the Marshall plan, the rest of the world does not support Israel, and if they do, it is only because of pressure from the US and UK. Out of these, UK is increasingly irrelevant, leaving only the US supporting Israel.

Anti-Semitic behavior of the right is against Jews personally, and paradoxically usually with support of Israel, and is totally different and hateful.

 

[movdqa]

Anti-Semitic behavior of the left is justified and directed at Israel, which has occupied Palestinian land and treated Palestinians the same way that Jews were treated before Israel was formed. Other than a few countries like US and UK which are bound by the Marshall plan, the rest of the world does not support Israel, and if they do, it is only because of pressure from the US and UK. Out of these, UK is increasingly irrelevant, leaving only the US supporting Israel.

Anti-Semitic behavior of the right is against Jews personally, and paradoxically usually with support of Israel, and is totally different and hateful.

I think that we'll have to disagree here as we're already skating on thin ice with two threads unless you want to start a third.

Fortunately, outside of a few bribes at high levels, the US political class, whether left or right, support Israel and they put their money where there mouth is.

 

[sureshs]

I think that we'll have to disagree here as we're already skating on thin ice with two threads unless you want to start a third.

Fortunately, outside of a few bribes at high levels, the US political class, whether left or right, support Israel and they put their money where there mouth is.

And their financial and military support is the reason Israel is able to persecute Palestinians and the rest of the world does not like it. The sympathy created by the "we will be attacked by Muslim nations" argument has been worn thin by the actions of Israel itself, which is often the aggressor.

 

[movdqa]

And their financial and military support is the reason Israel is able to persecute Palestinians and the rest of the world does not like it. The sympathy created by the "we will be attacked by Muslim nations" argument has been worn thin by the actions of Israel itself, which is often the aggressor.

We disagree. If you wish to continue, I suggest another thread.

 

[dgold44]

Drudge is a news aggregate site.........Matt Drudge on occasion will post his own stuff and opinion but overall it's the leader in pulling news from around the globe and posting in a single site

First thing I do when I wake up is read the drudge

 

[dgold44]

Second thing I do is skim brierbart

 

[2nd Serve Ace]

The increase in household wealth is greater than the increase in household debt.

Just read that household wealth in the stock market rose by $1.3 trillion.

In the first quarter of 2017.

Yes, US equities ARE seriously overvalued at the moment. Much higher P/E ratios compared to a stable market.

 

[Topspin Shot]

Abortion is legal, killing a pregnant woman is two murders. How do you feel about this contraction in our law?

I feel it's a contradiction.

 

[Topspin Shot]

Endowment vs. Attainment

Pro-life will believe all humans are endowed with "personhood" (and therefore personal rights) just by virtue of being human.

Pro-choice will believe that "personhood" is attained at some stage of development (though they don't agree at what stage this is).
-------------------------------------------------
I don't side fully with either side typically on any issue. But generally speaking, I was probably more on the liberal side when I was younger, but have probably gravitated more toward the conservative side. That said, on any given issue, I'm far from being a straight party line kind of guy.

Which is why I have a hard time with their arguments. OTOH unlike many pro-life people I have no problem with contraception because I don't consider sperm and egg cells to be anything special.

 

[Bartelby]

The Israeli government and its supporters engage in political campaigns involving economic boycotts and political campaigns to have people sacked.

On many campuses, they have lobbied hard to deny tenure to any professors who even slightly criticise Israel's policies in the Middle East.

A diplomat attached to the Israeli embassy in London was caught out admitting that his task was to collect dirt on any MP who spoke contrary to Israel's interests.

And this is just the tip of a very huge iceberg. And yet you complain about BDS?

And what stuff is happening in Qatar outside of America green-lighting the Saudi war against the country?

There's anti-semitic behavior on the left and the right. You can see it on the left at universities in the divestment movements and in campus government at some schools. Some of the stuff against Israel and Jews has motivations related to the stuff happening in Qatar.

 

[Crocodile]

My answer to the original question is, "No I don't subscribe for a newspaper". I buy the Saturday paper because I like to read the motoring and real estate lift outs.
I prefer to read books.

 

[r2473]

Which is why I have a hard time with their arguments. OTOH unlike many pro-life people I have no problem with contraception because I don't consider sperm and egg cells to be anything special.

To understand the Pro-choice position, you really need to read and understand the majority opinion in the big court decisions (Roe vs. Wade, etc).

When you understand the basis for respective positions (which is fundamentally different), you understand why the two sides really can't have a discussion on the issue. They are coming from totally different places.

 

[Bartelby]

You said not too long ago that with issues you patiently went through both positions to reach your own views.

The argument against that method is the incommensurability argument you are making here.

And incommensurability of value positions is very easily determined with not that much investigation.

So are you now saying one's position on abortion can not be decided rationally or that it can?

To understand the Pro-choice position, you really need to read and understand the majority opinion in the big court decisions (Roe vs. Wade, etc).

When you understand the basis for respective positions (which is fundamentally different), you understand why the two sides really can't have a discussion on the issue. They are coming from totally different places.

 

[r2473]

You said not too long ago that with issues you patiently went through both positions to reach your own views.

The argument against that method is the incommensurability argument you are making here.

And incommensurability of value positions is very easily determined with not that much investigation.

So are you now saying one's position on abortion can not be decided rationally or that it can?

I don't actually understand what you are saying here.

 

[Bartelby]

That's because you don't like to be put on the spot, so you ask a further question or pretend not to understand.

 

[KineticChain]

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[Sentinel]

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