Federer 2015 vs Federer 2017

[Fabresque]

2015 Stats:
Australian Open: 3R (Seppi)
French Open: QF (Wawrinka)
Wimbledon: F (Djokovic)
US Open: F (Djokovic)

IW: F (Djokovic)
Miami: DNP
Monte-Carlo: 3R (Monfils)
Madrid: 2R (Kyrgios)
Rome: F (Djokovic)
Canada: DNP
Cincinnati: W (#1 Djokovic in Final)
Shanghai: 2R (Ramos-Vinolas)
Paris: 3R (Isner)
WTF: F (Djokovic)

Other notable tournaments (Finals or Wins)
Brisbane: W (#8 Raonic in Final)
Dubai: W (#1 Djokovic in Final)
Istanbul: W (#23 Cuevas in Final)
Halle: W (#45 Seppi in Final)
Basel: W (#7 Nadal in Final)

Win Percentage: 85.1% (63-11)


2017 Stats:
Australian Open: W (#9 Nadal in Final)
French Open: DNP
Wimbledon: W (#7 Cilic in Final)
US Open: QF (Del Porto)

IW: W (#3 Wawrinka in Final)
Miami: W (#5 Nadal in Final)
Monte-Carlo: DNP
Madrid: DNP
Rome: DNP
Canada: F (Zverev)
Cincinnati: DNP
Shanghai: W (#1 Nadal in Final)
Paris: DNP
WTF: SF (Goffin)

Other notable tournaments (Finals or Wins)
Halle: W (#4 Zverev in Final)
Basel: W (#19 Del Potro in Final)

Win percentage: 91.5% (54-5)


He made more overall finals in 2015 than 2017. One more title in 2017. Definitely more clutch in 2017, winning slam and masters finals, 2015 he mainly would lose to Djokovic in slams/masters finals. 2015 he went undefeated outside of Slams/Masters, wasn’t as good at sweeping the little tournaments in 2017, but compensated with big wins. Didn’t play as much in 2017, probably due to skipping clay. Which most likely helped with grass court form.

Pit both of them against each other, 2015 Fed against 2017 Fed. OR, take 2015 Fed and place him in 2017, would he win as much as he would’ve? Or vice versa, would 2017 Fed placed in 2015 be able to overturn more slam/masters results against Djokovic?

 

[Fabresque]

Main point: 2015 if Peakovic didn’t exist I believe Fed would’ve dominated. He dominated Murray and Nadal that year.

 

[metsman]

Looking at the big tournaments, 2015 Fed much better at Dubai and Cincy, 2017 Fed maybe a bit better at Halle/Basel but really quite close. So gotta give it to 2015.

 

[Third Serve]

2017 Fed better in the first half + the Halle and Basel Slams, 2015 better pretty much everywhere else (I have them roughly equal at Wimbledon, but 2015 may be slightly better).

 

[Third Serve]

Main point: 2015 if Peakovic didn’t exist I believe Fed would’ve dominated. He dominated Murray and Nadal that year.

Only played Nadal once in 2015, and that too at Basel of all places.

 

[ForehandCross]

The thing is , Federer 2015's style was devastating for the tour but got ROFLstomped against Djokovic.

2017 had a more diverse and suitable style for the tour and wasn't rushing the net every two ball like 2015. He is slightly less dominant within indivudual matches in 2017 but he I think he was playing with more options and better strategy overall than 2015.

So 2017 is the better player, 2015 for those who can't handle such aggression is more dominant.

Djokovic going off to hug trees was the main reason Federer got 3 slams in 2017-18.

With him around ,I think he might win WB 2017 and maybe IW 2017 at the very best and that too is a stretch. However ,in 2017 he was more calm and his style was better to play against Djokovic.He will give much more fight than 2015.

But that won't matter 2015 Djokovic still ROFLstomps in the end.

 

[Fabresque]

Only played Nadal once in 2015, and that too at Basel of all places.

I thought they played more than once, whoops

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

2017 AO-IW-Miami.

 

[Lew II]

Equal.

 

[Lew II]

Without Nole Federer after 2016 AO could've been the title holder of AO, WI, UO, YEC, Indian Wells, Rome, Cincinnati, Dubai, Basel, Halle, Instanbul.

 

[myth]

I am a Fed fan but tbh he wouldn't have got a slam if Novak was around in 2017-2018.

 

[ChrisRF]

I am a Fed fan but tbh he wouldn't have got a slam if Novak was around in 2017-2018.

Likely not AO, but at Wimbledon he was unplayable in 2017. I don’t think a "healthy, motivated etc." Djokovic would trouble him there, let alone beat him.

And I think Ljubicic was a main factor in bringing Federer’s complete game back on top after the two coaches before him were proponents of rather brainless net-rushing (Edberg and even more so Annacone).

 

[Feddelpo20]

2015 federer had the better serve and net game but 2017 was a beast from the back of the court. Rogers form in early 2017 was the best I have seen in 10 years, he didn't have the movement from his peak but his groundstrokes were arguably as good as ever.

 

[NatF]

2017 was better at the AO, IW, Miami and Shangai. 2015 everywhere else except Wimbledon where I think they're about equal.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Likely not AO, but at Wimbledon he was unplayable in 2017. I don’t think a "healthy, motivated etc." Djokovic would trouble him there, let alone beat him.

And I think Ljubicic was a main factor in bringing Federer’s complete game back on top after the two coaches before him were proponents of rather brainless net-rushing (Edberg and even more so Annacone).

Non-peak Berdych ran Federer very close for two and a half sets, unplayabull LOL.

 

[Krish0608]

Why is this even a question. 2017 was by far the most solid version of Federer since 2012. 2015 was close to being a servebot with a bag of tricks(SABR) and no baseline game. 2017 was formidable off the ground too.

 

[ibbi]

If you took Djokovic 2015 out of 2015 and put him in 2017 his 2015 would be the easy winner. I think 2017 gets a lot of rub from how selective he was. If he played as much as he did inn 2015 the results would probably be significantly worse.

 

[Lew II]

..

 

[zagor]

2017 hit the ball better off both wings, 2015 moved and served better (and could last longer, play a full season, 2017 fell apart at USO). Overall about equal level, give or take, I might even give a slight edge to 2015.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

2017 hit the ball better off both wings, 2015 moved and served better (and could last longer, play a full season, 2017 fell apart at USO). Overall about equal level, give or take, I might even give a slight edge to 2015.

Could last longer in the season in 2015 but could last longer in individual matches in 2017?

 

[zagor]

Could last longer in the season in 2015 but could last longer in individual matches in 2017?

No one made him run and hit the extra ball in 2017 the way 2015 Novak could.

 

[Red Rick]

I usually take the AO '16 as part of the '15-'16 stretch where he was clearly better than '17.

 

[Nole_King]

I am a Fed fan but tbh he wouldn't have got a slam if Novak was around in 2017-2018.

Well Novak was around in 2017/18. It was just that he was losing to nobodies. If he would have reached Federer, say at Indian Wells, I fail to see how he would have won.

 

[MeatTornado]

Equal.

He didn't improve with 2 years more experience?

 

[Lew II]

He didn't improve with 2 years more experience?

He didn't get older with 2 years more of age?

 

[MeatTornado]

He didn't get older with 2 years more of age?

He did. The guy was much more nimble around the court in 2015.

 

[bhpower]

2017 as He was fresher both mentally and physically and with an improved backhand.

 

[DjokoGOAT]

2015 everywhere except AO, Miami and Shanghai.
2017 fed with Novak around wins nothing except basel. 2015 peak fed with 2017 field wins Dubai, IW, Rome, Halle, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, USO, Basel, Year end championships.

 

[Third Serve]

2015 everywhere except AO, Miami and Shanghai.

Fed had two more years of experience in 2017, though.

 

[Rosstour]

Only played Nadal once in 2015, and that too at Basel of all places.

That victory was so important though. He hadn’t beaten Rafa in years on any surface.

I think that match gave him the belief he needed to beat Rafa from a break down in the fifth at AO17.

Before AO17 I said on this site “remember Basel 2015” and it came to pass. That match was huge.

 

[DjokoGOAT]

Fed had two more years of experience in 2017, though.

fed played about the same in 2017 but skipped clay so 2015 was better. Only difference is he faced peak Djokovic.