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[oldmanfan]

Still odd, as the ATP cup should take precedence over exos. Fed knew what his schedule was going to be, and I assume he discussed it with Mirka.

I see your point, but Fedr's decision could easily be reasoned.

1) China exo = contract, while ATP Cup is not.
2) China exo = 3 days, while ATP Cup is 10 days. To make it worse, ATP Cup only allows 7 days before AO20 starts, so any form of light niggles/injuries = game over for AO20 bc not enough time to sort out.
3) Skipping China exo and play ATP Cup would mean practically zero family-exclusive time, and Fedr has said that for him, family is #1.

He had to take something away, and ATP Cup was it.

 

[Lleytonstation]

I see your point, but Fedr's decision could easily be reasoned.

1) China exo = contract, while ATP Cup is not.
2) China exo = 3 days, while ATP Cup is 10 days. To make it worse, ATP Cup only allows 7 days before AO20 starts, so any form of light niggles/injuries = game over for AO20 bc not enough time to sort out.
3) Skipping China exo and play ATP Cup would mean practically zero family-exclusive time, and Fedr has said that for him, family is #1.

He had to take something away, and ATP Cup was it.

But why did he accept originally then? Was this China exo added after this?

 

[oldmanfan]

didnt realize ATP cup was that important or a thing. i know people have confusion about LC, but I am even more confused about how the qualifications work and the fact that they award points

I don't think ATP Cup is that big of a thing (how can it when it's never been played, thus unproven?) until Fedr withdrew and his anti-fans jumped on it.

The awarding of points is a huge point of contention bc it's an 'additional tourney' added to player rankings of participants. In other words, all players that play ATP Cup has a huge advantage, rankings wise, compared to non-participants. Fritz and Opelka are very much against this notion (rightly so).

 

[oldmanfan]

But why did he accept originally then? Was this China exo added after this?

Yes, China exo was signed after he agreed to ATP Cup. Read his statement below:

Spoiler: Fedr's full statement.

“It is with great regret that I am withdrawing from the inaugural ATP Cup event,” said Federer.

“When I entered the event last month, it was a really difficult decision because it meant less time at home with the family and a fully intense start to the season.

“After much discussion with both my family and my team about the year ahead, I have decided that the extra two weeks at home will be beneficial for both my family and my tennis.

“It pains me to not be a part of the most exciting new event on the calendar, but this is the right thing to do if I want to continue to play for a longer period of time on the ATP Tour.
“I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment my withdrawal may cause for the fans, but I hope you can understand why I made it.
“For my Australian fans, I look forward to seeing you all at the Australian Open, fresh and ready to go.”

 

[Lleytonstation]

Yes, China exo was signed after he agreed to ATP Cup. Read his statement below:

Spoiler: Fedr's full statement.

“It is with great regret that I am withdrawing from the inaugural ATP Cup event,” said Federer.

“When I entered the event last month, it was a really difficult decision because it meant less time at home with the family and a fully intense start to the season.

“After much discussion with both my family and my team about the year ahead, I have decided that the extra two weeks at home will be beneficial for both my family and my tennis.

“It pains me to not be a part of the most exciting new event on the calendar, but this is the right thing to do if I want to continue to play for a longer period of time on the ATP Tour.
“I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment my withdrawal may cause for the fans, but I hope you can understand why I made it.
“For my Australian fans, I look forward to seeing you all at the Australian Open, fresh and ready to go.”

Okay, makes a little bit of sense. But still should not have signed exo contract if that was the case.

 

[oldmanfan]

Fedfans, in the end this is ultimately Fedr's decision to make. Many of us have been happy that he's still playing at all, let alone at such a high level. Fedr is finally making choices so that he's able to play on the tour as long as he can (his words). I don't know about you guys, but I'm all for it. And in this case, he gave everyone 'ample' time to prepare re:ATP Cup. Imagine if he pulled out 2 days before the even starts?

 

[icedevil0289]

I don't think ATP Cup is that big of a thing (how can it when it's never been played, thus unproven?) until Fedr withdrew and his anti-fans jumped on it.

The awarding of points is a huge point of contention bc it's an 'additional tourney' added to player rankings of participants. In other words, all players that play ATP Cup has a huge advantage, rankings wise, compared to non-participants. Fritz and Opelka are very much against this notion (rightly so).

my favorite thing is some people acting like he killed the event, i'm like you people cant say you want fed to retire and how he is not that important anymore and then in the same breath say he killed an event because he withdrew. either he is important or he isn't.

I just took a look at the points and it looks like it is ranking based. a maximum of 750 points is awarded for any undefeated isngles player so for that person its between an ATP 500 and a masters, which is a lot of points. Ofcourse that is the best case scenario. I think one of the other criticisms is that a country must have 3 players with ATP ranking. there is a possibility someone could have a decent ranking but not qualify because they are the only ones from that country. On teh flip side, someone who has a lower ranking could benefit but it just seems slightly convoluted.

 

[oldmanfan]

Okay, makes a little bit of sense. But still should not have signed exo contract if that was the case.

Hard to say if it's right or wrong bc we don't know what his thought process was. Maybe he's thinking the 5-yr China-exo contract is safer (in both scenarios of retired/no-retired) bc if he is retired during the next 5-yr, he can still play it (not the case with ATP Cup). Or maybe he thinks the time between China-exo and AO gives him more schedule flexibility (it does, no doubt!, bc he gets ~22-days of flex time). He's not going to explain his every thought about every decision to us bc the media can, and likely will, represent it in a bad light (see this withdrawal announcement).

 

[icedevil0289]

Hard to say if it's right or wrong bc we don't know what his thought process was. Maybe he's thinking the 5-yr China-exo contract is safer (in both scenarios of retired/no-retired) bc if he is retired during the next 5-yr, he can still play it (not the case with ATP Cup). Or maybe he thinks the time between China-exo and AO gives him more schedule flexibility (it does, no doubt!, bc he gets ~22-days of flex time). He's not going to explain his every thought about every decision to us bc the media can, and likely will, represent it in a bad light (see this withdrawal announcement).

tbh the china exho is the one thing im meh about, atleast with the mexico + s.america tour, its tennis fans getting to experience and see fed when tehy would never get a chance and he is giving them a memory because lets be real when would fed ever go there during his regular schedule and it will be light hearted and fun.

 

[oldmanfan]

@Lleytonstation , you're a great Fedfan (as many others on here), and I know you care a lot from Fedr's perspective.

But do keep in mind that Fedr is not Djokodal, and he doesn't need tons of match-play to get into gear. Remember how his time off pre-AO17 paved the way for his unbelievable 2017 season? He rarely makes scheduling mistakes. Based on the time of the events pre-AO, skipping ATP Cup could ultimately result in a slam-winning 2020. It might just result in Fedr bagging AO20 right off the bat bc others will be more-worn while Fedr is amazing when fresh (see his Shanghai19 after a busy LC/Tokyo, vs. Basel19 after a week's rest).

 

[oldmanfan]

tbh the china exho is the one thing im meh about, atleast with the mexico + s.america tour, its tennis fans getting to experience and see fed when tehy would never get a chance and he is giving them a memory because lets be real when would fed ever go there during his regular schedule and it will be light hearted and fun.

I see your point. The main plus for the China-exo is the date of December 27-29 (it's only 2-3 days before old-Hopman Cup). It's a really good time for AO-prep for the next 5 years (very different than the SA exo tour), guaranteeing matches without the stress of real matches. That is much like how Hopman Cup helped Fedr the last 3 years.

 

[Lleytonstation]

@Lleytonstation , you're a great Fedfan (as many others on here), and I know you care a lot from Fedr's perspective.

But do keep in mind that Fedr is not Djokodal, and he doesn't need tons of match-play to get into gear. Remember how his time off pre-AO17 paved the way for his unbelievable 2017 season? He rarely makes scheduling mistakes. Based on the time of the events pre-AO, skipping ATP Cup could ultimately result in a slam-winning 2020. It might just result in Fedr bagging AO20 right off the bat bc others will be more-worn while Fedr is amazing when fresh (see his Shanghai19 after a busy LC/Tokyo, vs. Basel19 after a week's rest).

I know, I just thought it was an odd reversal, which is something you dont usually see from him. Especially with a new event that is supposed to be a new and semi-relevant event yearly going forward. Just thought it was slightly out of character.

 

[oldmanfan]

I know, I just thought it was an odd reversal, which is something you dont usually see from him. Especially with a new event that is supposed to be a new and semi-relevant event yearly going forward. Just thought it was slightly out of character.

It caught me by surprise too, and I was looking forward to seeing him at ATP Cup (the 750pts max helps ). But after digesting it for a bit, and letting my greedy fandom cool down some, I came around to the decision. Fedr is a beast when he's well-prepared, and happy, and this rest helps him in regards to AO prep.

As you say, it seems out of character, but the fact that he 'can' make such a difficult decision suggests that he's really thinking long term here, and making sacrifices needed, even if out of character.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Shout out central. The Chelsea vs Man Utd game has finished. Amazing free kick from Rashford. Anyway, we get to the pundits after the match.

Jamie Redknapp was asked about the free kick.. He got into the making it look easy mode and Roger was the person he named.

Can't fault his thoughts. The free kick was right in the top corner from long range. You could picture a Federer inside-out forehand.

 

[chjtennis]

Do you think it is crazy for Federer to play all those exhibition matches, which are like a lot, really a lot, instead of playing more Masters1000 or real ATP tour events? I think it is. He can play exos after retirement.

 

[Rogfan]

See my last post above. ATP Cup would simply be too much match play before AO20 bc it lasts 10 days. The China exo already replaces AO-prep the way Hopman Cup did for Fedr for 2017-2019.

More importantly, Fedr will be so busy with exos for the rest of the year, that he'd have zero family-exclusive time. He has been managing both work and family well, and ATP Cup w/d helps it further.

ATP Cup doesn't last 10 days. For the final 2 teams yes, but not for Switzerland. The group matches are from 3-7 Jan, that's all. He's prioritising an exho over ATP Cup, as simple as that

 

[Lleytonstation]

Do you think it is crazy for Federer to play all those exhibition matches, which are like a lot, really a lot, instead of playing more Masters1000 or real ATP tour events? I think it is. He can play exos after retirement.

Fed has his reasons. My guess is it is tied to legacy. As a fan, it is hard to understand it because we want him winning matches that matter. He is thinking long term.

While I would rather him play big ATP events, he is preparing his legacy with elegant design. He and his team understand this concept and know how to execute it.

At the end of the day, ATP Cup, or Paris masters won't help him win WTF's or the AO.

No I don't understand why or how his schedule benefits him exactly, but I do trust Fed and his team know what they are doing, and know where the ship is heading in the distant future.

 

[chjtennis]

Fed has his reasons. My guess is it is tied to legacy. As a fan, it is hard to understand it because we want him winning matches that matter. He is thinking long term.

While I would rather him play big ATP events, he is preparing his legacy with elegant design. He and his team understand this concept and know how to execute it.

At the end of the day, ATP Cup, or Paris masters won't help him win WTF's or the AO.

No I don't understand why or how his schedule benefits him exactly, but I do trust Fed and his team know what they are doing, and know where the ship is heading in the distant future.

Roger Federer smiles in Shanghai 2019
October 11, 2019 Roger Federer, Tennis News

https://**********.net/roger-federer-confirms-complete-tournament-schedule-for-rest-of-2019/

Roger Federer confirms complete tournament schedule for rest of 2019

Roger Federer says he likes playing in new stadiums in front of new fans as he announces the tennis he will play until the end of 2019



Roger Federer will travel to South America, Mexico and Hangzou, China, after he leaves the ATP Finals at the O2 in London to play a series of exhibition matches, but he will not play in Saudi Arabia.

Federer confirmed on Twitter that his schedule would now include these non-ranking events events and gave a number of reasons why he wanted to play in them, but he avoided any comment on why he wasn’t playing the Saudi Arabian leg of the exhibition tour.

After the end of match, he can take plenty of time for family holiday. Instead, he withdraws from Paris, from ATP Cup and other events to play these seemingly meaningless exos. He can do what he likes, but I find it hard to understand why he is playing all these exhibition matches, while citing more family time as the reason to pull out of ATP Cup.

 

[Robert Baratheon]

After the end of match, he can take plenty of time for family holiday. Instead, he withdraws from Paris, from ATP Cup and other events to play these seemingly meaningless exos. He can do what he likes, but I find it hard to understand why he is playing all these exhibition matches, while citing more family time as the reason to pull out of ATP Cup.

Skipping Paris makes total sense though.
And I can understand playing all those exhos coz he wants to tour South America for one last time. These are exhos man. It's different from playing a whole week in Paris after playing Basel and just a week before WTF.
I can understand wanting to arrive strong and rested at the WTF. Try to see it from his perspective. In 2017 he had a great opportunity to win it but he wasn't at his best.
In 2018 he saw how Novak wasn't at his best. Rafa hasn't been a factor either.
If the last 2 seasons are anything to go by which they are it looks to me that if he comes out firing he has a better chance than anyone else except Novak.

Regarding the exhos, players do one farewell tour. Roger seems to be doing 3('19-'21) and he is being very intelligent with it. 2019 clay season seemed like a farewell tour for clay atleast but he made it into solid groundstroke preparation for Wimbledon and boy did he appear strong at Wimbledon!
Clay. Check.
South America and Asia. Check.
South Africa. Check.

Those exhos are important to him. But balancing his family life and his training regime is also important. Surely ATP Cup was somehow a problem in his training and the rest he needs. I don't understand the family issue thing. He just wrote what 2 lines about it and people are making a big deal about it. I myself don't believe he is skipping ATP cup to be more with his family.
It's primarily for the rest and while he is resting he can spend time with the family but it's not why he is skipping the tournament.

I don't understand why he or Rafa or Novak should play any tournament at all if they don't want to. They shouldn't be attacked for skipping anything.
Wanna play an exho? Go with it.

My problem is with the way they leave tournaments at the end time.
Like Roger leaving Paris after the draw. That's just selfish. And one can't defend that.
Other players should not be disadvantaged just coz you aren't sure if you can play or not.
As long as your choice doesn't hurt someone it's okay.

 

[oldmanfan]

Fedr... such a scaredy cat

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189935955706368002

 

[oldmanfan]

Dorkerer strikes again!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189810195607650305

 

[BeatlesFan]

Mirka wasn't there tho, which was odd being Basel.

Jelena Djokovic was in Wimbledon at their rented house and couldn't be bothered to show up for the men's final, so put it into perspective. She didn't attend any of the slams this year. Nothing is going on with Fed and Mirka.

 

[BeatlesFan]

James Blake doesn't think Roger can reach Jimbo's 109 titles, at 1:47: (Mark Knowles also chimes in that he assumes 2020 will be Roger's last year on tour).

 

[Lleytonstation]

James Blake doesn't think Roger can reach Jimbo's 109 titles, at 1:47: (Mark Knowles also chimes in that he assumes 2020 will be Roger's last year on tour).

I would say 50/50 for both.

 

[oldmanfan]

James Blake doesn't think Roger can reach Jimbo's 109 titles, at 1:47: (Mark Knowles also chimes in that he assumes 2020 will be Roger's last year on tour).

Blake said the same thing when Roger had around 99 titles (maybe 100?). It was reasonable, and he's sticking to it. OTOH, Knowles changed his mind here from his old stance, and with good reason. Fedr should've won 6 titles already this year.

For me, I think Fedr is both reaching 109 (and breaking it) and play past 2020 bc I think he'll play for 3-5 more years (Fedr suggested it a few times in the last 2 months). 109 seemed very far after 2018 considering Fedr's form, but it doesn't seem far now.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

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[oldmanfan]

Federer is visibly struggling with his normal attitude towards being on the tour full time when he can. I don't know if it is mental fatigue, family concerns or doubts about what is best for him, but he is getting moody far too often for his standard. I say that he is steady gearing down mentally.

That doesn't mean that he will hang it for sure in 2020. I thought that long ago, but I have come to realise that till he is making QFs/SFs and Fs in Majors he will not stop or at least there should be a pretty considerable pressure from Mirka to do so, if it is to happen. With that said, I don't know how long he will be able to keep his confidence and fitness on a high enough level. He seems to get moody because he cannot keep his physical level as he used to and that ruins his plans and willingness to compete. With the added pressure from the media to be his usual perfect self, I can see how he will struggle to keep it together, pretending that everything is fine as far as his competitive form is concerned.

The big question is: what will motivate him past 2020?

[The big question is: what will motivate him past 2020?]
The answer is simple. Fedr loves tennis. We can actually 'see' it too.

Of course, his family and health 'can' force him to stop, but those are factors outside his control, per se.

As far as motivation and effort, I believe him when he said he wants to play as long as his body allows, and hopefully until 40 at least. His family being the other deciding factor. From that standpoint, I think he'll play for at least 3-5 more years if neither of those (family/health) stops him.

Fedr said this around October 20th, less 2 weeks ago (and they suggest that 2021 is the earliest possible year to retire, in normal conditions):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1186084895329673217

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1185876519874387969

 

[Robert Baratheon]

Guys has Roger shown any signs of thinking about playing in 2021?
Was just talking to a friend about it and I just realised that 2020 might be the last year with all the exhos and stuff but I so hope I am wrong.
Just tell me there's some signs of things going in '21!
Edit: oh wait only above you guys were talking about it!

 

[Third Serve]

Guys has Roger shown any signs of thinking about playing in 2021?
Was just talking to a friend about it and I just realised that 2020 might be the last year with all the exhos and stuff but I so hope I am wrong.
Just tell me there's some signs of things going in '21!

The only indicator toward his playing past ‘21 is that contract to that exho going to about 2023. He’s also hinted at playing into his 40s so it’s definitely possible. I’d put odds at 50/50 that he’ll play past 2021.

 

[Azure]

I really hope he plays along well after next year. A confirmation will help. As I mentioned elsewhere he is the first among equals to me. He started this great era of big three. Hope for tennis fans around that he plays well into his 40s. The man can still beat the best.

 

[Robert Baratheon]

You are a Nadal fan, so your fake enthusiasm is hardly necessary, but if you are so hopeful, yes, Federer will probably play past 2020.

This is the second time you have said that to me.
What tells you that I am a Rafa fan?
I am a Djokovic and Federer fan first and foremost everyone else comes later.
I think you have totally misjudged my favourites.

 

[Robert Baratheon]

I don't think so, but you are neither the first, nor you will be the last to say the exact same thing and continue with the BS. I didn't say it because of you, I said it so that the others are careful when they read your comments. They will make their own judgement.

That's just weird lol.
Okay whatever you wanna think, think.

And as to others I would say: guys and gals be careful reading my comments!! They might bite you. Apparently I am a dangerous Ned devotee lol.

 

[Third Serve]

@Robert Baratheon is an unashamed troll first and foremost. He is a Federer fan secondly.

 

[Robert Baratheon]

This is a Federer News thread. Stop with this already.

You started it man. I was just here to ask about Roger.

 

[Standaa]

You started it man. I was just here to ask about Roger.

don’t play his BS game, man. Do something more fun with your life

 

[youngpolyhater]

Federer should skip all these exhos

 

[Tennis_Hands]

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[oldmanfan]

There are basically 3 main things than can stop a tennis player from continuing the tour (all equally important):

1) physical
2) mental/motivation
3) personal (family/loved-ones)

That applies to every player of every age. For us Fedfans, we're in a good spot bc Fedr recently said that motivation to play tennis is will never be an issue for him, so 1/3 is eliminated, and only physical/personal can stop him. He's 38, and yes that's old, but his game is still so efficient. His only/main injury was his meniscus tear in 2016. His back issues have been ongoing for 15+ yrs now, so that won't go away, nor is it new. Freak accidents happen, but then again, it can happen to anyone. And it'll least likely to happen to someone like Fedr, who plays one of the least physical style of tennis. I'm cautiously optimistic that he won't get any major injury based on his playstyle going forward. I feel The Old Man has some more to achieve yet .

 

[Otacon]

There are basically 3 main things than can stop a tennis player from continuing the tour (all equally important):

1) physical
2) mental/motivation
3) personal (family/loved-ones)

That applies to every player of every age. For us Fedfans, we're in a good spot bc Fedr recently said that motivation to play tennis is will never be an issue for him, so 1/3 is eliminated, and only physical/personal can stop him. He's 38, and yes that's old, but his game is still so efficient. His only/main injury was his meniscus tear in 2016. His back issues have been ongoing for 15+ yrs now, so that won't go away, nor is it new. Freak accidents happen, but then again, it can happen to anyone. And it'll least likely to happen to someone like Fedr, who plays one of the least physical style of tennis. I'm cautiously optimistic that he won't get any major injury based on his playstyle going forward. I feel The Old Man has some more to achieve yet .

Where are you from dude ?

 

[Lleytonstation]

There are basically 3 main things than can stop a tennis player from continuing the tour (all equally important):

1) physical
2) mental/motivation
3) personal (family/loved-ones)

That applies to every player of every age. For us Fedfans, we're in a good spot bc Fedr recently said that motivation to play tennis is will never be an issue for him, so 1/3 is eliminated, and only physical/personal can stop him. He's 38, and yes that's old, but his game is still so efficient. His only/main injury was his meniscus tear in 2016. His back issues have been ongoing for 15+ yrs now, so that won't go away, nor is it new. Freak accidents happen, but then again, it can happen to anyone. And it'll least likely to happen to someone like Fedr, who plays one of the least physical style of tennis. I'm cautiously optimistic that he won't get any major injury based on his playstyle going forward. I feel The Old Man has some more to achieve yet .

Yep. I am not quite as confident that he will continue at the same level as you do. But I do think he will snag one of the big5 tourneys he plays next year.

But I don't know that I am buying that the young guys are going to continue to rise like most people thought a few weeks ago. Which gets us back to Fed having a week+ og his best tennis will give him opportunities.

Opportunities... Fed will and is still giving us these, and like you said, he has the passion, so I see him playing till 40 assuming the decline does not just come out of no where.

 

[oldmanfan]

Where are you from dude ?

As in location? If so, I'm in the US.

Yep. I am not quite as confident that he will continue at the same level as you do. But I do think he will snag one of the big5 tourneys he plays next year.

But I don't know that I am buying that the young guys are going to continue to rise like most people thought a few weeks ago. Which gets us back to Fed having a week+ og his best tennis will give him opportunities.

Opportunities... Fed will and is still giving us these, and like you said, he has the passion, so I see him playing till 40 assuming the decline does not just come out of no where.

Quite right. Fedr is an anomaly. He's physically gifted (he has to be) PLUS he takes care of himself well. In his 20+ yrs pro career, iirc he 'had' to take multiple months off bc of injury only once, at the end of 2016 for his knees. And he didn't even 'have' to take the full 6 months off (his words), but he just wanted to make sure he gave the knee more than enough time to heal, a credit to his foresight. It turned out to be a very wise decision, proven by the results of 2017.

I agree that he's no spring chicken at 38, but scheduling and body-maintenance matter, whether you're 20 or 38. How so? Look at Chung/Demon/FAA/other-young-stars who've had injuries at such a young age. And the majority of them haven't even played as many matches as Fedr this year, nor since 2017. The issue was that they first play a much more physical game then Fedr, and second, they have yet to schedule training/match-play/rest in the right amount. Fedr is a master at this, so I have faith in him. Since 2017 alone, he's shown this on multiple occasions. Even after back/hand issues, he didn't even have to take many weeks off (forget months) away from his scheduled tourneys (Cincy17, Rome19), and he's usually quick to reach a decent/great level upon return, especially compared to other great players like Stan/Murray (I know their injuries are more severe, but that only further proves my point re:Fedr's play style).

Most of 2019, and especially WB19 and Basel19 (see how happy he was at Basel19?), allows the optimist in me to feel great about Fedr going forward.

 

[Otacon]

As in location? If so, I'm in the US.

You seem well informed about Fed, I thought you were from Switzerland

 

[oldmanfan]

You seem well informed about Fed, I thought you were from Switzerland

LoL.

Fedr is my favorite tennis player by a country mile, and he's the only sportsman to make me nervous in matches, even as a heavy favorite. So I follow his career and career nuances a bit closer.

I follow a few well informed twitter accounts for Fedr info, too. The below account is from a very well informed Swiss Fedfan, and he has a very positive attitude. He provides many up to date Fedr quotes from Swiss media:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188475588014727168

 

[oldmanfan]

Google translated:

"Roger Federer and Mirka sat around a few tables with a few people and ate as well,"

«Roger Federer is finally the greatest gentleman of all gentlemen!»

Fedr the GGOAT, no?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1190721322348875779

 

[Lleytonstation]

Google translated:

"Roger Federer and Mirka sat around a few tables with a few people and ate as well,"

«Roger Federer is finally the greatest gentleman of all gentlemen!»

Fedr the GGOAT, no?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1190721322348875779

No Mirka photos? Marriage trouble! Jk, they are all good, never sure why that was even an issue.

That being said, do we know when Fed's first match will be, or when that draw comes out?

 

[oldmanfan]

He finally passed MuryGOAT. FedrGGOAT!

Draw is Tuesday. No time yet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1190370785363406848

 

[Rogfan]

ATP and Ticketmaster has no intention to refund the Switzerland sessions of the ATP Cup tickets as they’re making it very difficult for us ticket holders. First they made us fill out a form, then someone contacted me and said the sessions are still going ahead. If you still want a refund, reply which I did. Then another email saying we’re offering you complimentary sessions. If you don’t want it click here which will take you to the original form I filled out.

Sorry if this is not the right place but I’m just really disappointed and upset. I have a feeling Fed was never going to play, or at best undecided, but as a deal of ATP supporting Laver Cup he let them use his name and inflate the ticket prices. He always plays a warm up tournament two weeks before AO so this ‘time with family thing’ really is a very poor excuse. And he never had ATP on his 2020 calendar since he started talking about it in October. I’m extra upset because it was a lot of efforts and it stressed me out for a couple of hours that morning when the tickets went on sale, for me to try and get the best seats for all sessions. I was also quite sick that day to the point I was struggling physically on my chair. Not to mention the price! But I was escalated when I got what I wanted. Now it’s all gone down the drain and how dare they’re making it so difficult for people to get their money back?!

 

[Tennis_Hands]

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[Fedforever]

I have a feeling Fed was never going to play, or at best undecided, but as a deal of ATP supporting Laver Cup he let them use his name and inflate the ticket prices.

You're going to get a lot of grief for this but if this was another player a lot of us would be saying this. I'm NOT saying it is the case but we ought to be honest with ourselves.

It's disgraceful that the ATP/Ticketmaster are dragging their heels over refunds. If the tickets were sold at an inflated price because they were Switzerland matches then it's completely wrong that people don't get their money back. Is there a Trading Standards body or something like that that you can complain to?

 

[Lleytonstation]

You are right. This is not the right place. Federer is not responsible for your decisions, nor could or should have he been aware in advance whether he will be part of the tournament. He is also not part of the organisation of the tournament, so, whatever difficulties you are facing have nothing to do with Federer, which is why that post is even more misplaced.



P.S. I removed your post from the quote, and I advice you to do the same, as, as you can see, the trolls are already licking their chops to post their garbage.

I could be wrong, but is this not the same thing as Cincy selling tickets for Rafa and Fed, and if they both pull out then no refunds right?

There have been times I have paid heavy for IW or Canada tickets thinking someone was going to play and they did not.

It happens. He could have got injured too. Maybe it's not the same, but seems like they have the right to say no refunds.