Federer the best, but many will never know

strife726

Rookie
Federer the best, but many will never know
By Paul Daugherty
Enquirer staff writer

MASON - After he lost the first set, Andy Roddick's head-down body language suggested he had as much chance against Switzerland's Roger Federer as he did scaling the Matterhorn in a pair of flip-flops.
Roddick looked down in disgust. He looked up for help. He netted a backhand volley and cursed; he missed a forehand return and uttered a primal grunt, like a bear stubbing a toe.
Ultimately, Roddick simply succumbed, like everyone else. Federer doesn't eat opponents in one gulp. He strangles them like a boa constrictor.
You might not like tennis. It's a niche sport that relies on celebrity stars for its popularity. The air went out of the Western & Southern Financial Group Masters charisma balloon last Sunday, when Andre Agassi withdrew. Roger Federer is like his home country: Pleasantly neutral, decidedly beige.
Which is too bad. Because without the bells and whistles, not enough people know how good the guy is. Pete Sampras retired two years ago and we believed men's tennis would not produce another savant so quickly. We were wrong.
In dispatching Roddick 6-3, 7-5 in an hour and 16 minutes, Federer won his 22nd finals match in a row. He hasn't lost a title match in two years. Roddick, at 23, is considered America's best male tennis hope. Federer has beaten him six consecutive times. In that run, Roddick has won exactly one set. Federer has won three Wimbledon titles in a row, two over Roddick, who now knows how Phil Mickelson feels playing golf in the Age of Tiger.
"It's similar," said Roddick. "Tiger won and that made the other guys elevate their games. That's what Roger's doing right now. I'm a better player than I was two years ago, because I have to be."
Roddick has called Federer "Pete Sampras from another country." That is, his tennis speaks louder than the rest of him.
"I don't think he gets his fair shake, because he's not American," Roddick said. "He's not looking for anything besides winning. Unfortunately, that hasn't been embraced. It's almost like people want more of a story. The guy just wins and goes about his business. For some reason, that's not a good story."
Without a strong American presence, tennis is left to tennis fans. They're a dedicated bunch, but their numbers aren't staggering. Federer's play is good enough we should be considering his career in a historical context. He has five Grand Slam titles already. Only four players have won as many as quickly.
Yet casual sports fans wouldn't know Roger Federer from Roger Rabbit.
"If you met him at McDonald's and didn't know who he was, you'd have no idea he was one of the best athletes in the world," said Roddick.
In the past, this event has relied as much on names suchs as Jimmy Connors, Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl, Michael Chang, Andre Agassi and Sampras. Federer is as accomplished as most, yet the mention of his name stirs no one's blood.
His game isn't electric, either: No rocket serves, no racket-banging outbursts. Federer's brilliance borders on subtle. He seems always to be in the right place. He appears to have a radar other players lack. On even Roddick's best efforts - deep, hard forehands, soft touch volleys - Federer was ahead of the ball.
His routine mastery even sucked the life from the sedate, pro-Roddick crowd Sunday. Maybe fans sensed the inevitability, too.
The W & S Masters remains the coolest sporting event in this area. It's the only event for hundreds of miles where you can buy a $12,000 diamond-encrusted tennis necklace and a slice of pizza. It is the only time the world comes to Cincinnati without thinking it has taken a wrong turn.
The tennis isn't bad, either. Sunday was a rematch of the last two Wimbledon finals. If you looked hard enough, you could see green lawns, strawberries and the Queen Mum. OK, maybe you couldn't. But it's always cool to see Cincinnati on the same marquee as Rome, Paris and Shanghai.
And to have the best in the world working here for a week.
Even if he is anonymous in the drive-thru.
Fries with that, Mr. Federer?
 
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p1625

Guest
But I think Federer is still more appreciated by general public
than Sampras. Sampras played very exotic tennis. True greatness
of his game only appreciated by hard core tennis fans.
But Federer, although he hits lots of magic shots, still plays
baseline game which is more familiar to general public.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
General public could give a rat's ass about Federer or Sampras. Tennis just isn't popular, has nothing to do with players. Interest declined in late 80s & continued throughout 90s(except for Agassi)
The lack of respect for Fed or Sampras has more to do with Wilander & Lendl turning off fans in droves than their play or personality.
 

Aykhan Mammadov

Hall of Fame
I never watched such a tennis master as Federer. Of course, untill he is 5 GS winner he can't be called greatest ever and untill he doesn't win his 14-th he must not be called better than Sampras. But definetly he is genius of tennis.

He plays so nice that I watch every his match irrelative against whom he is playing.
 

gmorr001

Rookie
General public could give a rat's ass about Federer or Sampras. Tennis just isn't popular, has nothing to do with players. Interest declined in late 80s & continued throughout 90s(except for Agassi)

If you walked down the street, you could ask anyone who Sampras is and im sure that they could tell you. I don't know were you got your info, but, they say that tennis has been gaining popularity over the past years. Besides, Im sure that this generation does not know who Lendl and Wilander are, or let their antics from decades ago, force them out of watching tennis or respecting the talent of these two individuals.
 

fastdunn

Legend
Kevin Patrick said:
General public could give a rat's ass about Federer or Sampras. Tennis just isn't popular, has nothing to do with players. Interest declined in late 80s & continued throughout 90s(except for Agassi)
The lack of respect for Fed or Sampras has more to do with Wilander & Lendl turning off fans in droves than their play or personality.

Yep. tennis just doesn't have same kind of interests from public
compared to 80's (although tennis revenue has been increasing
and it's biggest ever now.)

But I think Federer is a bit different from Sampras in terms of
popularity among fans. I don't think I've ever seen such a popular
#1 player than Federer in many many years maybe except Agassi.
I think he excites lots of casual viewers as well as
hard core tennis fans (maybe a bit too much).

Obviously it's because he has fabulous games but I think it's
also something wider viewers can relate to. He does something
most tennis fans do but magically. It's the forehand and
backhand, anticipations and so on. Everybody's bread and butter
shots but with magical hand.

No bumming serve and acrobatic volleys and impossible
running forehand of Sampras which brings up comments like
"Yeah he's good but we don't play that kind of game",
"Yeah he's good. But he wins too easily with cheap points..."
 

snowpuppy

Semi-Pro
Tennis is still consider a "gentlemen's sport" today. When you see tennis in commercials other than for the advertisment of tennis, you see rich country club white men in tennis sweaters and a woodie. That is still the sterotype that tennis has under the American culture. 80's was the hey days of tennis with Borg and McEnroe. Sampras did brought some attention since he had the help of corporate America's help in marketing him. Federer can probably ride the 7 train to Arthur Ashe stadium without anyone noticing.
 

sinatra161

Rookie
Federer's not the media darling that everyone wishes he were!Some people have it some people don't.but who cares if you play the way he does!
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
Federer (and many others) are much more popular in Europe and the rest of the world. Its a sad fact that most Americans have little to no interest in sports other than baseball, football, hockey, basketball, and god help us all, Nascar and drag racing.
 

friedalo1

Semi-Pro
Im glad Nadal is around to beat Federer at the French Open. Federer will never win all four of the grand slams like Agassi.
 

Pushmaster

Hall of Fame
friedalo1 said:
Im glad Nadal is around to beat Federer at the French Open. Federer will never win all four of the grand slams like Agassi.
You got to be nuts if you think Federer isn't going to win at least 1 FO, he barely lost this year to the best clay courter in the world. He'll win at least 3 FO's before it's all said and done, and he'll break Sampras' record of 14 GS titles with ease if he stays healthy.
 

Fedubai

Semi-Pro
People like athletes who have the 'it' factor or whatever. Federer obviously doesn't have it. They want someone exciting, someone on the edge, someone interesting. That's what sells. Style over substance. It's an age-old reality.

Federer strikes me as a very normal person. And he's very good at just talking to people, he's very genuine. He's a real person.

The media over here is not gonna touch Federer, he's too uncontroversial, not enough of a story.

It would help if he played over here more than he does, people would get to know him, instead of just being told he's a boring dork by the media.

I think we could do a better job of giving people over here a chance to get to know Federer and see if they like him, or not. It's hard to make that decision if you don't know anything about him. He's gotten some big cheers though at the tournaments he's played here this year though, I've noticed.

So it's not hopeless. ;)
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
Your a fool if you think you can walk down the street and ask anyone who Pete Sampras was and get a decent response. You might get "Oh..Pete S...starts with an S" about 50% of the time. Venus and Serena have more popularity than Sampras..only by a little. I still have some idiot friends who call Venus, Vanessa. Just about no one knows who Roger Federer is. Forget about Hewitt or Safin. They might know Roddick because of all his MTV work ands Leno.
Sure more and more people "play" tennis, if you consider going to the courts with a can of balls and a k mart racquet and bunting the ball over the net "playing". But they just do it beucase...well actually i dont know...its a bigger version of ping pong?
Face it, tennis is not popular, and it probably never will be. Its too bad since its such a beautiful game.
 

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
Sad but true DashaandSafin. "Playing" tennis and being interested in the professional realm of the sport are very different aspects. So the question of popularity has to be refined into taking these different aspects into account.

I have plenty of friends who enjoy hitting the public courts for some play. However I also notice 80% of them have NO clue who the top name players are NOR can they name the Grand Slam events. Making casual tennis conversation almost impossible!

I actually like Federer for his low key persona. However I do admit that it is hurting the game; since I am sure more people would be interested to see such a talented player dominate like he does.
 

drexeler

Rookie
Docalex007 said:
I actually like Federer for his low key persona. However I do admit that it is hurting the game; since I am sure more people would be interested to see such a talented player dominate like he does.

If it's hurting the game, why is there more coverage of tennis on TV than before in the US? This year had the most comprehensive LIVE coverage of all the 3 GS's so far than ever before. hell, they even aired matches from AO at 3:30AM ET live. During this US Open Series, there was coverage every weekend. And reports indicate ratings are better than last year. Not to mention, we have a separate TENNIS channel. And this is only the US. Outside, the game is as healthy as it has ever been (interest booming in China, India, Eastern Europe, Latin America etc.)

I would say this new generation - Fed, Roddick, Nadal, Safin, Hewitt etc - has revitalized interest in tennis. Fed has brought back the old-school and classical types (the ones who went away bemonaing the domination of power in men's tennis), while Roddick and Nadal have brought in young fans.

Tennis is on a revival in the US amidst a backdrop in which everything is declining e.g the NBA finals got a 6 rating, which is pathetic compared to the 17.0 rating it used to get when Jordan was playing. NHL has dropped off the face of the sporting landscape. Movie attendance is down, CD buying is down, TV show ratings are way down. I would probably guess a lot of it has to do with Internet (browsing, chat rooms, msg boards etc), video games, DVDs & other home entertainment, and a myriad other options to choose from.
 

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
drexeler said:
If it's hurting the game, why is there more coverage of tennis on TV than before in the US? This year had the most comprehensive LIVE coverage of all the 3 GS's so far than ever before. hell, they even aired matches from AO at 3:30AM ET live. During this US Open Series, there was coverage every weekend. And reports indicate ratings are better than last year. Not to mention, we have a separate TENNIS channel. And this is only the US. Outside, the game is as healthy as it has ever been (interest booming in China, India, Eastern Europe, Latin America etc.)

I would say this new generation - Fed, Roddick, Nadal, Safin, Hewitt etc - has revitalized interest in tennis. Fed has brought back the old-school and classical types (the ones who went away bemonaing the domination of power in men's tennis), while Roddick and Nadal have brought in young fans.

Tennis is on a revival in the US amidst a backdrop in which everything is declining e.g the NBA finals got a 6 rating, which is pathetic compared to the 17.0 rating it used to get when Jordan was playing. NHL has dropped off the face of the sporting landscape. Movie attendance is down, CD buying is down, TV show ratings are way down. I would probably guess a lot of it has to do with Internet (browsing, chat rooms, msg boards etc), video games, DVDs & other home entertainment, and a myriad other options to choose from.


I understand all that. But imagine how much MORE could be done if Fed played a dynamic and round character in the plot of tennis. So I believe it is hurting in that aspect. But I can only agree that there has been more coverage and all since those are facts.
 

MonkeyPox

Semi-Pro
The women are way more popular than the men because they are either good looking (Sharapova and Kournikova) or controversial (Venus, Serena and Capriati). Otherwise most people don't care. But I really don't care if they care either. I don't know any hockey players other than like maybe the big three or four of all time and I'm sure hockey fans don't care.

I think Federer is way more interesting than Sampras. Just to me anyway. He has more style, finesse and ingenuity. And being European gives him just a little bit more of a mysterious air, where Sampras just came off as a little boring.

Not everyone has the Safin sort of personality that transcends all borders. Too bad he's so all over the place. With his looks, personality and hilarious sense of humor he could have been tennis' biggest star ever if he would have committed himself. But I guess that will never be.
 

callitout

Professional
There are low key stars in every sport in NBA Tim Duncan is a nice guy who goes about his business is a hall of fame player but people dont know his name like they know Kobe. I love Sampras and was so happy that he could finally appreciate some of the accolades from fans when he won his 13th and 14th GS titles, but Sampras seemed to really dislike his celebrity (which was never on the level of Agassi or Mcenroe's). Fed seems different, I have no reason to think that he simply wants to play his tennis and not be bothered by the media the way pete did. Pete often felt slighted by the media which seemed to favor Agassi over him. Fed is very cordial with media so far as i can tell.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
snowpuppy said:
Federer can probably ride the 7 train to Arthur Ashe stadium without anyone noticing.

ANYONE can probably ride the 7 train to Arthur Ashe stadium without anyone noticing:)

That's NYC.
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
callitout said:
There are low key stars in every sport in NBA Tim Duncan is a nice guy who goes about his business is a hall of fame player but people dont know his name like they know Kobe.

good call.

thus forget about the mob. let's think about our personal interests and preferences.
 
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