Finally the Dual Core Donnay racquets for sale on TW

DrT

New User
v1nx,
The Silver and the Gold are way different. THe Silver is definitely more powerful because of the stiffness and balance (2-3 points HL). I get way more control out of the Gold while still being able to hit a very heavy ball. The silver feels like a more modern rackets(like APDGT, etc.) and the Gold has more of a modern take a on a traditional frame (more stable, more powerful Pro Staff). The difference in SW and overall weight seems small, but the differences are big. THe Silver actually feel heavier to me because of the balance. They both volley very well, but the Gold gives me more control.

Mike

Been looking for a detailed thread on the Donnays.Thanks for the info.Re: the Gold 99,how did it fair with flat-shot hitting?I have had a bad experience with them Head Youtek Extreme Pros(16/19 pattern).All my flat shots were sailing long(May b the stiffness rating?).Currently using the Six.One 95 18/20,maneuverability/RH speed and head size downsides!The Gold 99 my prime interest but wary of probable loss of control due to the 16/19 cos i hit flat(1st Serve/FH/BH)??Avoiding the PlatINUM d2 the stiffness rating,fear for my arm en over-hitting!Please give input,thanks.
 

10ACE

Professional
Been looking for a detailed thread on the Donnays.Thanks for the info.Re: the Gold 99,how did it fair with flat-shot hitting?I have had a bad experience with them Head Youtek Extreme Pros(16/19 pattern).All my flat shots were sailing long(May b the stiffness rating?).Currently using the Six.One 95 18/20,maneuverability/RH speed and head size downsides!The Gold 99 my prime interest but wary of probable loss of control due to the 16/19 cos i hit flat(1st Serve/FH/BH)??Avoiding the PlatINUM d2 the stiffness rating,fear for my arm en over-hitting!Please give input,thanks.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=370945&page=58

Starts somewhere close to that page.
 

cayzi

Rookie
Thank you MT - this helps.

So I am thinking the Dual Gold 99 as singles stick (at my 4.0 level).

However, I am still intrigued by the X-P Dual as a potential doubles racket with the ability to customize it:

How's the sweet-spot with the larger head size? Is it stable enough?

Has anybody played with the X-P Dual?

So what did you find out about GOLD, SILVER or XP Dual?

Did you bought them or not in the end.

Many thanks!
 

MMQB14

Rookie
>So what did you find out about GOLD, SILVER or XP Dual?
>Did you bought them or not in the end.

Bought the Gold99 and the X-P Dual at the end. Use the X-P Dual for doubles resp. when I play against my wife and therefore don't face heavy pace.

The Gold99 is my singles racquet.
 

cayzi

Rookie
>So what did you find out about GOLD, SILVER or XP Dual?
>Did you bought them or not in the end.

Bought the Gold99 and the X-P Dual at the end. Use the X-P Dual for doubles resp. when I play against my wife and therefore don't face heavy pace.

The Gold99 is my singles racquet.

good!

did you manage to compare gold vs. silver?
 

MMQB14

Rookie
>did you manage to compare gold vs. silver?

my wife plays with the silver lite racquet. it definitely plays stiffer than both the gold99 and the x-p dual (she's even able to string it with tf black code as she has no shoulder/arm issues and therefore hits with a lot of spin).

the x-p dual is definitely the most comfortable racquet between the gold and silver. it also is more forgiving if you don't manage to hit the sweet spot regularly.

mx x-dual set-up is the following: 10gr butt-cap and the 3gr slide weights at 3 and 9 o'clock. it nows weighs almost the same as the gold99. if i have off day and don't manage to hit well with the gold99, i am able to switch to the x-p dual and get some more forgiveness on off-center hits.

hope this helps.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
>did you manage to compare gold vs. silver?

my wife plays with the silver lite racquet. it definitely plays stiffer than both the gold99 and the x-p dual (she's even able to string it with tf black code as she has no shoulder/arm issues and therefore hits with a lot of spin).

the x-p dual is definitely the most comfortable racquet between the gold and silver. it also is more forgiving if you don't manage to hit the sweet spot regularly.

mx x-dual set-up is the following: 10gr butt-cap and the 3gr slide weights at 3 and 9 o'clock. it nows weighs almost the same as the gold99. if i have off day and don't manage to hit well with the gold99, i am able to switch to the x-p dual and get some more forgiveness on off-center hits.

hope this helps.



Did you mean the silver is less stiff than the gold? I know it is listed a few points less and to me it seemed more flexible than the gold.
 

levy1

Hall of Fame
Has anyone hit with the Silver light and the extended silver light? Are the two frames playing about the same?
 

cayzi

Rookie
I need a recommendation for a good multi string for Silver and XP Dual and what tension for 3.5 player.

Thanks
 

MMQB14

Rookie
Did you mean the silver is less stiff than the gold? I know it is listed a few points less and to me it seemed more flexible than the gold.

According to the TW stiffness specs: Gold99 - 63 // SilverLite99 - 61 so yes the Silver is more flexible.

What I meant was that with the TF BlackCode string-bed the Silver Lite FELT more stiff playing than my Gold99 and its VS Team string set-up.

Sorry for the confusion.
 

Mig1NC

Professional
According to the TW stiffness specs: Gold99 - 63 // SilverLite99 - 61 so yes the Silver is more flexible.

What I meant was that with the TF BlackCode string-bed the Silver Lite FELT more stiff playing than my Gold99 and its VS Team string set-up.

Sorry for the confusion.

Here is the comparison of the TW specs:
http://www.racquetfinder.com/compare.php?pcode=DDCG99;DDCS99;DCSL99&x=64&y=29

Donnay claims the silver is stiffer than the gold, but TW testing shows otherwise.

Almost all manufacturers list stiffness on unstrung frames, TW tests strung frames on an RDC machine. Most racquets loose about 3pts of stiffness when strung.

For some reason I think stiffness characteristics change more with Donnay racquets and maybe the RDC machine doesn't quite account for that.

Another thing to consider is that RDC machines only list stiffness for a single point of flex. A racquet may be stiffer in the hoop and flexier in the throat and read with less stiffness on an RDC but still have more power than their stiffness may indicate.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
According to the TW stiffness specs: Gold99 - 63 // SilverLite99 - 61 so yes the Silver is more flexible.

What I meant was that with the TF BlackCode string-bed the Silver Lite FELT more stiff playing than my Gold99 and its VS Team string set-up.

Sorry for the confusion.

You are comparing rackets with one strung with poly and the other strung with gut? Uh not a very good idea the racket with poly would obviously feel stiffer than the other with nat. gut.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I have made the switch from the x 99 white to the dual core silver lite. Both are great rackets but the sl is really nice, it serves better and puts even more spin and juice on the ball than the white does.

I have been demoing all the donnay rackets for months now. The x series do have a more precise feel and distinct hit. But the dual core seem to be more comfortable and vibration is really eliminated.

They both have their strong points and it is a personnel preference of which one works out better for different players. But to me the donnays are different than all the other rackets out there.

The sl with 10 grams added to butt cap weighs in at 11.2 ounces with a 6 point head light balance. This is a pretty light stick but the dual core makes it feel and play with more plow through and stability than its specs.

I would suggest to anyone interested in these rackets to take your time and demo them all. Because they play different than what most rackets do. The heavier versions swing easier than other sticks of the same weight and the lighter ones are more solid than other rackets of that weight.
 

gd!

Rookie
Regarding stiffness Silver v Gold

Out of a dozend frames same dealer has currently in stock
X-Silver 1x 68, 2x69, rest 70
X-Gold 1x63, 2x64, rest 65

Discrepancies are larger in between X-Silver weight from 300 till 310, balance from 318 till 325. That's not too close, though.
 

Mig1NC

Professional
Out of a dozend frames same dealer has currently in stock
X-Silver 1x 68, 2x69, rest 70
X-Gold 1x63, 2x64, rest 65

Discrepancies are larger in between X-Silver weight from 300 till 310, balance from 318 till 325. That's not too close, though.

Did you get that from the bar code or the label?
 
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