Orange feels a bit softer than the champagne color.
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
I strung my MP in 48 lbs with the orange lynx tour and tried it first time ever today (in a tournament..). Started the match with Extreme Tour and won first set 6-3. Then I tried the new Radical MP. Felt ok but picked up the extreme again at 2-2. Played bad (no surprise switching like that..) and went down 2-5 0-40. Picked up the radical at this point (no guts no glory) and turned around to 7-5 win!
The Radical is faster to swing then extreme tour. It feels richer in the feel, more sweet, bigger sweetspot and easier to use. Compared to the current 360 Radical, the new version is more solid.
This was the very first test with the Radical and it worked above my expectations. I normally customize my frames but this frame I could use in stock version. I did not feel any need for lead and heavier swingweight. I appreciate the faster swing. Well done from Head!
The Radical is faster to swing then extreme tour. It feels richer in the feel, more sweet, bigger sweetspot and easier to use. Compared to the current 360 Radical, the new version is more solid.
This was the very first test with the Radical and it worked above my expectations. I normally customize my frames but this frame I could use in stock version. I did not feel any need for lead and heavier swingweight. I appreciate the faster swing. Well done from Head!
HitMoreBHs
Professional
Fortuna audaces iuvat! Congrats!
Glad to hear more positives regarding the feel of the 360+ Radicals. Interesting as well that you found the sweetspot is larger on the Radical MP vs Extreme Tour. Any chance you can post comparative specs of both racquets you have?
Looking forward to trying the new 360+ Radicals when released - my local shops don't have either prototype to playtest just now.
Glad to hear more positives regarding the feel of the 360+ Radicals. Interesting as well that you found the sweetspot is larger on the Radical MP vs Extreme Tour. Any chance you can post comparative specs of both racquets you have?
Looking forward to trying the new 360+ Radicals when released - my local shops don't have either prototype to playtest just now.
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
The extremes are customized and the radical not but here are the unstrung specs:
Radical MP 2021
298.1 grams
31.9 cm balance
298.1 SW
Extreme Tour (customized)
316.2 grams
31.1 cm balance
292.4 SW
It’s very strange and I can not explain why I felt the Radical was easier and faster to swing compared to Extreme Tour. Looking at the specs it should be opposite but it’s not.
gutfeeling
Hall of Fame
300 grams, 300 SW unstrung looks very promising. This weight distribution is much different than the Extreme Tour.
HitMoreBHs
Professional
Thanks! Can’t speak for everyone, but in my case, 16g makes a bigger difference than 3 BPs. From your specs, I’d find the Radical the faster one to swing. Got to say, 300g with 300SW looks rather tasty!
Lavs
Hall of Fame
That was pretty much extreme decision in second set
Dang.. not what i wanted to hear!! Hah
Thanks for the review. This frame looks like going to be a winner.
You guys are killing me..
The specs on that Radical mp sound fantastic too
I am surprised about the SW. I bet average is lower. Its about 4hl strung.. 300gr stick that has v7 18x20 or ezone tour type of sw.. basically with same balance and quite a bit of less weight (especially vs ezone tour)...yeah interesting..
Edit- this makes more sense actually.. old post from @Raizu:
Radical MP
316.5g
33cm 4pts HL
324sw
67RA
There are some reports of 62 RA as well so i dont know....
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Agreed. Hit with it yesterday and today and felt comfortable. I also have frames with 67RA and 69RA. The Radical MP doesn't feel as stiff.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
This sounds like exactly what I’m looking for! Thanks for your input!
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Seriously cannot wait to hear what you think!
Chezbeeno
Professional
Saw the final pj of the new Radical today through a bit of a fluke, and it's pretty good in person. Honestly not THAT different than the prototype pj...but also definitely a bit worse. I'm sure this isn't huge news for most people here, as I feel like many of you have already seen it, but whatever. Still thought I'd share haha
It is Lynx Tour and will be released around the same time as the racquet.
Amazing the levels of tennis. I can enjoy both videos as you can still see the easy of play with racquets and the resulting shot. Not looking to mimic either player.
n80aoag
Professional
Square
Spin Diesel
Hall of Fame
I actually appreciate both! I‘m sure Karue would also play great with a wooden racket. So even if I think/hope that my mechanics are better than Jonas‘, my level is definitely closer to him, than to Karue. So I still enjoy his videos as well and apart from that, I think he knows a little more about all that nerdy racket stuff.
Right on, that’s the only thing I didn’t like about the IG Radical pro was the rectangle grip. Difficult to serve.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
2021 Radical Pro and MP...
Both are in final paintjob (not "Teasing" PJ) and I like it a lot. Looks great in person and the contrast of Orange/Silver is nice in matte finish. I am actually not sure if I would prefer glossy over matte this time!
I posted this in the 2021 Radical Pro thread about 2 weeks ago:
I've spent about 10 hours with the 360+ Radical Pro and really like the stick.
Mine came at 320g unstrung with Overgrip (336g strung VS Touch @54/Hawk Rough @48 -- would go probably 50/46 next time), 31.6cm (32.6cm strung with lead), ~332 kg*cm2 SW strung
Positives:
- great layup and weight/balance/SW from the get go. I only added 2g of lead at 12 to slightly boost the SW into 330's range, however, the racket is a great setup
- 21mm beam, and beam shape makes it very maneuverable and easy to use
- feel and launch angle of a 18x20 but benefits of 16x19 (access to spin, ease of blocking and returning shots deep)
- good feel and sound
- I love the PJ (final, not prototype). Looks much better in person than the leaked catalog images
Negatives:
- Small sweet spot. But you know exactly when you hit it. Sweet spot is a little higher on the head, I actually like that
- low power (did not bother me much although my flawed technique became obvious)
- TK82S -- I prefer TK82 shape...just a personal preference
Another excellent iteration of the 360+ layup in a Modern racket.
That is exactly how it feels -- communicative, but modern. The 360+ prestige is soft, almost like classic feel, the Radical Pro is crisper, but comfortable and well balanced layup.
Very easy to adjust to the racket from the get-go. I have been using the PT313.2 last 7 months and that is the PT57A2 layup, 95 sq in, 18x20, 21.5mm beam. I had no issues immediately adjusting to the Radical Pro and controlling the depth and power of my shots. In fact, after 100 minutes of hitting and serving with the PT313 and getting tired, picked up the 360+ Radical Pro, it felt I could go for another 150 minutes. A few of my hitting partners pointed the same -- easiness of creating deep and controlled shots.
Forehands (my second weakest shot) worked well for me. I felt confident
Backhands (2HBH, my safe shot) were good, not as heavy as with my 313 (could be the TK82S vs. TK82)
Serves were a surprise. I expected a lack of punch, however, people that received my serves commented that the heaviness and movement of the ball increased with the Radical.
I felt very confident at the net, although, off-SS shots can cause issues.
My slices were awesome (that is my weakest shot, I'd say).
How it compares to Extreme Tour??
I have done an extensive review of the Extreme Tour, that was another great Head racket. On paper, these two look very similar -- low power, 98 sq in, 16x19, similar beam width...
FH -- Radical Pro.
BH -- Tie
Power -- Extreme Tour offers more power.
Spin -- Radical Pro slightly more and easier access (I think (not sure) the string pattern is slightly more open vs Extreme Tour in the middle)
Sweet Spot -- Extreme Tour has bigger SS, however, Radical offers amazing response when you hit the SS
Net game -- Extreme Tour due to larger SS and therefore more stable at the net
Serves -- Radical Pro hands down
Slices -- Radical Pro
Feel -- very close. I'd say they have similar (not the same) layup, similar RA
Layup/weight -- Radical Pro. The weight and distribution is amazing. Almost like Gravity Pro -- don't need any adjustments to go and play the match. The layup is very communicative.
As my friend, TennisNerd, said: I am not switching to the 360+ Radical Pro, however, I would definitely keep one of these in my bag and pull it out mid way through the match.
Will be testing the 360+ Radical MP next
Here comes the 2021 360+ Radical MP:
I've spent about 15 hours with the 360+ Radical MP and really like the stick.
Mine came at 325g strung with Overgrip (strung NRG2 @55), 33cm, ~325 kg*cm2 SW strung
Positives:
- great layup, love the feel (RA measurement may be misleading). A bit on the light side in stock form. A week into the test, I replaced the pallets from TK82S to TK82, added silicone and lead in the handle and lead at 12 oclock. Feels/is very polarized so I may add some in the throat area. currently 340g strung, 32.5cm balance, 340SW. Strung with the VS Touch at 52lbs, Hawk Rough at 48. Next time will probably go 56 lbs on the gut and 50lbs on Hawk to tame the power...
- Even thicker beam (22/23mm), the beam shape makes it very maneuverable and easy to use. I like both, TK351 and TK352 molds!
- feel and launch angle of a 18x20 but benefits of 16x19 (access to spin, ease of blocking and returning shots deep). But sometimes I wish it were 18x20 because of too much power. The launch angle is slightly lower than the Pro.
- The Pro sound was great! There is a very slight ping with the MP in off center shots. You would not notice that with a dampener (I don't use any)
- I love the PJ (final, not prototype). Looks much better in person than the leaked catalog images
Negatives:
- Light in the stock form, although, that is the market for MP
- Maybe needs some weight in the mid section area (throat)
- too much power (especially on the serve returns sometimes)
- TK82S -- I prefer TK82 shape...just a personal preference
Another excellent iteration of the 360+ layup in a Modern racket. THis one actually feels much closer to the classics than the Pro version. Love the TGK351.1 layup!
It felt slightly more muted than the Pro but still very communicative, but modern. The 360+ prestige is softer, you can feel it bend, the Radical MP is as soft feel but less flex in the hoop and well balanced layup.
Very easy to adjust to the racket from the get-go. I have been using the PT313.2 last 7 months and that is the PT57A2 layup, 95 sq in, 18x20, 21.5mm beam. I had no issues immediately adjusting to the Radical MP (and Pro) and controlling the depth and power of my shots. In fact, after 100 minutes of hitting and serving with the PT313 and getting tired, picked up the 360+ Radical MP & Pro, it felt I could go for another 150 minutes. However, the lack of mass felt obvious at some blocking shots and at the net with the MP.
Forehands (my second weakest shot) worked well for me. I felt confident with both versions. Adding 15g of weight/SW still kept is very maneuverable and easy to use.
Backhands (2HBH, my safe shot) were good, not as heavy as with my 313 (with both TK82S & TK82 pallets). The PT313 layup definitely feels like more mass is in the throat than the TGK351.
Serves were a surprise with the Pro, but not with the MP -- allowed me to serve best and most confident ever. The feedback was that my serve was 5+ mph faster than with the PT313, however, I felt that the PT313 put more action on the ball (even though it is the 18x20). First day of serves, I put in 85% of my first serve during a straight 25-minute serve practice (indoors). Next day, outdoors, the serves were great too.
The net play was not good in the stock form. Lacked some stability although that changed with the added weight.
My slices were awesome (that is my weakest shot, I'd say) with both sticks.
How it compares to Radical Pro
Feel: MP > Pro (feels softer, feels more classic, but also lacks mid frame weight)
Power: MP > Pro (significantly more power to the point of sometimes hard to contain)
Stability: Pro > MP
Control: Pro > MP
Sweet Spot: MP > Pro (still higher on the hoop, but definitely more forgiving)
Serves: MP > Pro (best serving I have done in my life, however, tricky to go back to my standard stick)
FH: MP > Pro
BH: MP = Pro (Both were lagging behind my PT313. I believe it is the throat area weight)
Slices: MP = Pro (my weakest shot -- and it felt so confident with both of these sticks)
Net: Pro > MP (that changed once I put more weight on the MP)
As my friend, TennisNerd, said: I am not switching to the 360+ Radical, however, I would definitely keep one of the MPs in my bag and pull it out mid way through the match. I will add some lead in the throat and see how that affects the weak areas and if it hampers any of the awesome areas.
Both are in final paintjob (not "Teasing" PJ) and I like it a lot. Looks great in person and the contrast of Orange/Silver is nice in matte finish. I am actually not sure if I would prefer glossy over matte this time!
I posted this in the 2021 Radical Pro thread about 2 weeks ago:
I've spent about 10 hours with the 360+ Radical Pro and really like the stick.
Mine came at 320g unstrung with Overgrip (336g strung VS Touch @54/Hawk Rough @48 -- would go probably 50/46 next time), 31.6cm (32.6cm strung with lead), ~332 kg*cm2 SW strung
Positives:
- great layup and weight/balance/SW from the get go. I only added 2g of lead at 12 to slightly boost the SW into 330's range, however, the racket is a great setup
- 21mm beam, and beam shape makes it very maneuverable and easy to use
- feel and launch angle of a 18x20 but benefits of 16x19 (access to spin, ease of blocking and returning shots deep)
- good feel and sound
- I love the PJ (final, not prototype). Looks much better in person than the leaked catalog images
Negatives:
- Small sweet spot. But you know exactly when you hit it. Sweet spot is a little higher on the head, I actually like that
- low power (did not bother me much although my flawed technique became obvious)
- TK82S -- I prefer TK82 shape...just a personal preference
Another excellent iteration of the 360+ layup in a Modern racket.
That is exactly how it feels -- communicative, but modern. The 360+ prestige is soft, almost like classic feel, the Radical Pro is crisper, but comfortable and well balanced layup.
Very easy to adjust to the racket from the get-go. I have been using the PT313.2 last 7 months and that is the PT57A2 layup, 95 sq in, 18x20, 21.5mm beam. I had no issues immediately adjusting to the Radical Pro and controlling the depth and power of my shots. In fact, after 100 minutes of hitting and serving with the PT313 and getting tired, picked up the 360+ Radical Pro, it felt I could go for another 150 minutes. A few of my hitting partners pointed the same -- easiness of creating deep and controlled shots.
Forehands (my second weakest shot) worked well for me. I felt confident
Backhands (2HBH, my safe shot) were good, not as heavy as with my 313 (could be the TK82S vs. TK82)
Serves were a surprise. I expected a lack of punch, however, people that received my serves commented that the heaviness and movement of the ball increased with the Radical.
I felt very confident at the net, although, off-SS shots can cause issues.
My slices were awesome (that is my weakest shot, I'd say).
How it compares to Extreme Tour??
I have done an extensive review of the Extreme Tour, that was another great Head racket. On paper, these two look very similar -- low power, 98 sq in, 16x19, similar beam width...
FH -- Radical Pro.
BH -- Tie
Power -- Extreme Tour offers more power.
Spin -- Radical Pro slightly more and easier access (I think (not sure) the string pattern is slightly more open vs Extreme Tour in the middle)
Sweet Spot -- Extreme Tour has bigger SS, however, Radical offers amazing response when you hit the SS
Net game -- Extreme Tour due to larger SS and therefore more stable at the net
Serves -- Radical Pro hands down
Slices -- Radical Pro
Feel -- very close. I'd say they have similar (not the same) layup, similar RA
Layup/weight -- Radical Pro. The weight and distribution is amazing. Almost like Gravity Pro -- don't need any adjustments to go and play the match. The layup is very communicative.
As my friend, TennisNerd, said: I am not switching to the 360+ Radical Pro, however, I would definitely keep one of these in my bag and pull it out mid way through the match.
Will be testing the 360+ Radical MP next
Here comes the 2021 360+ Radical MP:
I've spent about 15 hours with the 360+ Radical MP and really like the stick.
Mine came at 325g strung with Overgrip (strung NRG2 @55), 33cm, ~325 kg*cm2 SW strung
Positives:
- great layup, love the feel (RA measurement may be misleading). A bit on the light side in stock form. A week into the test, I replaced the pallets from TK82S to TK82, added silicone and lead in the handle and lead at 12 oclock. Feels/is very polarized so I may add some in the throat area. currently 340g strung, 32.5cm balance, 340SW. Strung with the VS Touch at 52lbs, Hawk Rough at 48. Next time will probably go 56 lbs on the gut and 50lbs on Hawk to tame the power...
- Even thicker beam (22/23mm), the beam shape makes it very maneuverable and easy to use. I like both, TK351 and TK352 molds!
- feel and launch angle of a 18x20 but benefits of 16x19 (access to spin, ease of blocking and returning shots deep). But sometimes I wish it were 18x20 because of too much power. The launch angle is slightly lower than the Pro.
- The Pro sound was great! There is a very slight ping with the MP in off center shots. You would not notice that with a dampener (I don't use any)
- I love the PJ (final, not prototype). Looks much better in person than the leaked catalog images
Negatives:
- Light in the stock form, although, that is the market for MP
- Maybe needs some weight in the mid section area (throat)
- too much power (especially on the serve returns sometimes)
- TK82S -- I prefer TK82 shape...just a personal preference
Another excellent iteration of the 360+ layup in a Modern racket. THis one actually feels much closer to the classics than the Pro version. Love the TGK351.1 layup!
It felt slightly more muted than the Pro but still very communicative, but modern. The 360+ prestige is softer, you can feel it bend, the Radical MP is as soft feel but less flex in the hoop and well balanced layup.
Very easy to adjust to the racket from the get-go. I have been using the PT313.2 last 7 months and that is the PT57A2 layup, 95 sq in, 18x20, 21.5mm beam. I had no issues immediately adjusting to the Radical MP (and Pro) and controlling the depth and power of my shots. In fact, after 100 minutes of hitting and serving with the PT313 and getting tired, picked up the 360+ Radical MP & Pro, it felt I could go for another 150 minutes. However, the lack of mass felt obvious at some blocking shots and at the net with the MP.
Forehands (my second weakest shot) worked well for me. I felt confident with both versions. Adding 15g of weight/SW still kept is very maneuverable and easy to use.
Backhands (2HBH, my safe shot) were good, not as heavy as with my 313 (with both TK82S & TK82 pallets). The PT313 layup definitely feels like more mass is in the throat than the TGK351.
Serves were a surprise with the Pro, but not with the MP -- allowed me to serve best and most confident ever. The feedback was that my serve was 5+ mph faster than with the PT313, however, I felt that the PT313 put more action on the ball (even though it is the 18x20). First day of serves, I put in 85% of my first serve during a straight 25-minute serve practice (indoors). Next day, outdoors, the serves were great too.
The net play was not good in the stock form. Lacked some stability although that changed with the added weight.
My slices were awesome (that is my weakest shot, I'd say) with both sticks.
How it compares to Radical Pro
Feel: MP > Pro (feels softer, feels more classic, but also lacks mid frame weight)
Power: MP > Pro (significantly more power to the point of sometimes hard to contain)
Stability: Pro > MP
Control: Pro > MP
Sweet Spot: MP > Pro (still higher on the hoop, but definitely more forgiving)
Serves: MP > Pro (best serving I have done in my life, however, tricky to go back to my standard stick)
FH: MP > Pro
BH: MP = Pro (Both were lagging behind my PT313. I believe it is the throat area weight)
Slices: MP = Pro (my weakest shot -- and it felt so confident with both of these sticks)
Net: Pro > MP (that changed once I put more weight on the MP)
As my friend, TennisNerd, said: I am not switching to the 360+ Radical, however, I would definitely keep one of the MPs in my bag and pull it out mid way through the match. I will add some lead in the throat and see how that affects the weak areas and if it hampers any of the awesome areas.
gutfeeling
Hall of Fame
Nice, thorough review! Can you please compare the Radical MP to the Extreme Tour? Thanks.
tennisislife4622
Rookie
great review! so overall Pro over MP for you personally?
that's your question after reading it all? why do you care which one he likes more.. he wrote a ton of detail for you to make your conclusion.. do you have his power, his control, his level?... there is no better worse racket.. you have to find what fits for you... somebody trash is another man's treasure.
tennisislife4622
Rookie
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Both were modified, pro slightly though...to match my standard spec.
I did highlight the possible shortcomings of the MP before added weight, although it is intended for that market.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I preferred the MP actually, once I tuned it in. However, still my 313 wins...
Keizer
Hall of Fame
They are different molds. See dr325i's post above - TK351 (MP) and TK352 (Pro), with MP having a thicker beam than Pro.
Thanks for such a detailed review it is much appreciated.
Spin Diesel
Hall of Fame
Can anyone tell me how the Radical MP compares to the Speed MP? Especially in feel, spin, power, and maneuvrability.
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
I have been playing a lot last days with Radical MP. I made one minor modification (4 lead-stripes with a combined weight of 5 grams placed at the center sides of the hitting surface). This little thing made the frame even better. Now it feels very solid, very generous sweetspot and easy to control. This is , if the final frame is like the sample, a frame i will consider switching to and use for tournament and league-matches when it´s possible to buy more of in 2021. When i get my ordered Wilson Blade SW102 and have customized them to correct specs and length i will use them at same practice and see what frame feels best and also creates most "chaos" for my opponents.
tennisislife4622
Rookie
Anybody using the 360 Radical Pro? IMO its a very solid racket and feels like a more forgiving and maneuverable blade! Not sure why it got such bad reviews from TW, it seems like they rate all of the new radicals poorly.....
Stiff and not much stability - they mentioned it in the review. Or do you think there is a conspiracy?
Most graphene 360 racquets had medicore reviews...
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
With CAP grommets it was a very solid racket if you could handle it (mine came to 350g, 360SW).
But as above, it was fairly stiff (although still not quite "Babolat" levels) and muted.
taydbear7
Professional
I demoed the MP and like the two poster I felt it was stiff so I was not a fan. I couldn't get any feel with the racquet.
tennisislife4622
Rookie
I will continue to rock it in stock form, maybe add some lead tape at 3 and 9. I have the CAP grommet but I am afraid it will end up being way too much racket to swing. The spiralfibre tech seems to have benefited the entire head line, so I can't see why it would not help the already stiff radical pro. I will hold off on buying another of the 360, and wait for the new radical pro, but other than a slightly softer feel I bet they will be very similar playing sticks....
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