Golfers Elbow Tennis Elbow - My research/experience

Ramjet

Rookie
I had considerable trouble with golfers elbow so i thought i'd post my experiences and research to help others.
I stopped playing for 2 years, and when i started again i developed considerable pain on the inside part of my elbow each time i played. This was golfers elbow. (Tennis elbow is pain on the outside part of the elbow). My Golfers elbow showed up when Ihit spinny forehands and when I pronated on serves. Tennis elbow usually shows up on backhands (especially single-handed). If i continued to play the then the pain could become excruciating to the extent that i had trouble picking up things.
Most medical sites suggest the cause is as follows. There are two muscles that connects your wrist to your elbow; one muscle allows you to bend your wrist as if you were doing a bicep curl, the other bends your wrist the other way. Where these muscles connect to the elbow there is a small fibrous connection point. It is this small connection point that basically sustains some wear and tear from forehand, serves (golfers elbow), or backhands (tennis elbow). Some sites suggest that lack of bloodflow to this fibrous connection exacerbates the problem by not providing enough nourishment to this connection point.

Treatment. First you will need to rest the area. No two ways about that. For some people that rest can be 2 weeks, in other instances it can be 3 months. Even for me sometimes it disappeared after 3 weeks rest, sometimes it was still there. However i have managed to bring it under control. My experience was the following:

1. A lot of websites tell you to perform strengthening exercises (easy to google them). For me i have very strong wrist muscles, but i still did the exercises. For me they didnt help very much at all. The only benefit i felt was perhaps it increased some bloodflow to that connection point. The actual concept of strengthening the wrist muscles doesnt make sense anyway, in that the problem is not with the muscles but with where they connect to the elbow.
2. Icing soon afterwards for 20mins. This definitely helped me. Again there is detailed science as to why this helps. Basically the ice minimizes bleeding in all the little capillaries and vessels around the painful area. Research says there is a trade-off here for the body. The body needs the bleeding and it is a natural response to pain. It means that more blood and nutrients are brought to the problem area that are needed for regeneration. Hoever the body tends to overcompensate and too much bleeding and clotting can slow the recovery period. Icing helps control this
3. Icing a couple of times a day for 2-3 days after. This speeds up healing by flushing blood out of the area, so that when it eventually warms up new blood and nutrients can flow in.
4. New Racket. Probably the biggest factor for me was switching rackets. I bought the most flexible racket i could find. The theory is that the racket absorbs the shock and not your elbow. I got the volkl c10 pro. Excellent stick all round and very flexible. Incidentially most sites list the volkl flex rating at 56 though tennis ware house lists a higher number (think TW is wrong). Also softer gut or multifilament strings are helpful, as is reducing string tension and using thinner strings (thinner strings are more elastic)
5. Neoprene elbow band. I find that if you wear one these elbow bands an hour before a game, it warms up your elbow and increases blood flow and is a little preventative.
6. Tennis Elbow arm-band. These usually work applying pressure to the muscle just below the elbow (towards your wrist). Theory is that it takes pressure of the connection at the elbow. Similar to a guitar string. If you apply pressure to a fret, then the pressure at the top of the guitar is reduced. Found this helped a lot, especially if i was starting to experience pain while playing. For me the best was the AirCell one.
7. Acupuncture. Don't think this helped me much.

Hope suffferers find this useful
 
I had considerable trouble with golfers elbow so i thought i'd post my experiences and research to help others.
I stopped playing for 2 years, and when i started again i developed considerable pain on the inside part of my elbow each time i played. This was golfers elbow. (Tennis elbow is pain on the outside part of the elbow). My Golfers elbow showed up when Ihit spinny forehands and when I pronated on serves. Tennis elbow usually shows up on backhands (especially single-handed). If i continued to play the then the pain could become excruciating to the extent that i had trouble picking up things.
Most medical sites suggest the cause is as follows. There are two muscles that connects your wrist to your elbow; one muscle allows you to bend your wrist as if you were doing a bicep curl, the other bends your wrist the other way. Where these muscles connect to the elbow there is a small fibrous connection point. It is this small connection point that basically sustains some wear and tear from forehand, serves (golfers elbow), or backhands (tennis elbow). Some sites suggest that lack of bloodflow to this fibrous connection exacerbates the problem by not providing enough nourishment to this connection point.

Treatment. First you will need to rest the area. No two ways about that. For some people that rest can be 2 weeks, in other instances it can be 3 months. Even for me sometimes it disappeared after 3 weeks rest, sometimes it was still there. However i have managed to bring it under control. My experience was the following:

1. A lot of websites tell you to perform strengthening exercises (easy to google them). For me i have very strong wrist muscles, but i still did the exercises. For me they didnt help very much at all. The only benefit i felt was perhaps it increased some bloodflow to that connection point. The actual concept of strengthening the wrist muscles doesnt make sense anyway, in that the problem is not with the muscles but with where they connect to the elbow.
2. Icing soon afterwards for 20mins. This definitely helped me. Again there is detailed science as to why this helps. Basically the ice minimizes bleeding in all the little capillaries and vessels around the painful area. Research says there is a trade-off here for the body. The body needs the bleeding and it is a natural response to pain. It means that more blood and nutrients are brought to the problem area that are needed for regeneration. Hoever the body tends to overcompensate and too much bleeding and clotting can slow the recovery period. Icing helps control this
3. Icing a couple of times a day for 2-3 days after. This speeds up healing by flushing blood out of the area, so that when it eventually warms up new blood and nutrients can flow in.
4. New Racket. Probably the biggest factor for me was switching rackets. I bought the most flexible racket i could find. The theory is that the racket absorbs the shock and not your elbow. I got the volkl c10 pro. Excellent stick all round and very flexible. Incidentially most sites list the volkl flex rating at 56 though tennis ware house lists a higher number (think TW is wrong). Also softer gut or multifilament strings are helpful, as is reducing string tension and using thinner strings (thinner strings are more elastic)
5. Neoprene elbow band. I find that if you wear one these elbow bands an hour before a game, it warms up your elbow and increases blood flow and is a little preventative.
6. Tennis Elbow arm-band. These usually work applying pressure to the muscle just below the elbow (towards your wrist). Theory is that it takes pressure of the connection at the elbow. Similar to a guitar string. If you apply pressure to a fret, then the pressure at the top of the guitar is reduced. Found this helped a lot, especially if i was starting to experience pain while playing. For me the best was the AirCell one.
7. Acupuncture. Don't think this helped me much.

Hope suffferers find this useful

Great advice. A few pointers about some things you mentioned:

there are several muscles that 'connect your wrist to the elbow' not just two. There are two common origins though (where the muscle groups attach) - one for the flexors/golfers elbow and one for the extensors/tennis elbow. I think this is what you meant though.

Ice works great as does some stretching for the muscles when they are painful. some people find massage helps.

Any sort of band around the elbow provides additional proprioceptive and alternative sensory input which may make the problem less intense.

Main therapy as such is rest though with graduated return to activity.

Great advice all round:):):)
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
1. A lot of websites tell you to perform strengthening exercises (easy to google them). For me i have very strong wrist muscles, but i still did the exercises. For me they didnt help very much at all. The only benefit i felt was perhaps it increased some bloodflow to that connection point. The actual concept of strengthening the wrist muscles doesnt make sense anyway, in that the problem is not with the muscles but with where they connect to the elbow.

Regarding strengthening exercises, allow me to talk about TE rather than GE.

When doing these strengthening exercises I cannot overemphasize the following point:

DO NOT EQUATE "STRENGTH" WITH HOW MANY POUNDS YOU CAN LIFT.
Believe it or not, many people with TE do not have weak wrist or forearm muscles. A few friends of mine who had bouts of TE had arms of bodybuilders. I myself lift weights religiously and have always included wrist and forearm exercises in my routine.

When I got TE, I never lost strength in my muscles. But what I had was excruciating pain at the tendon that made me think twice before lifting things. Even at the height of my TE pain, if I decided to suck up pain and do some heavy lifting, I could press and curl as much as I could prior to sustaining the injury. The only change is that those same activities would further aggrevate the injury and I would have to pay the consequences in the next weeks and months.

When I started doing these rehab exercises, I found out by trial and error that I needed to start with an amount of weight that WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY PAIN DURING AND AFTER THE exercises. So I had to constantly remind myself to stick to extremely low weights. This means that even though I can easly do wrist curls and extensions with a 30-lb dumbbell, I had to start out with 2.5 pounders and move up only if it does not cause pain both during and after the exercise.

Remember that it is your tendon that needs rehabilitation. So put aside your machismo and give that poor tendon some very mild stress so that it can be strengthened without being damaged from the exercise.
 
When I started doing these rehab exercises, I found out by trial and error that I needed to start with an amount of weight that WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY PAIN DURING AND AFTER THE exercises. So I had to constantly remind myself to stick to extremely low weights. This means that even though I can easly do wrist curls and extensions with a 30-lb dumbbell, I had to start out with 2.5 pounders and move up only if it does not cause pain both during and after the exercise.

Remember that it is your tendon that needs rehabilitation. So put aside your machismo and give that poor tendon some very mild stress so that it can be strengthened without being damaged from the exercise.

Very important point that most people seem to ignore when given rehab exercises. there are few conditions that need to be pushed into the pain and through the pain but MOST need to be rehabbed without pain - DURING AND AFTER exercise. It is not about how much you can lift but more about how much can you current lift painfree!
 

yemenmocha

Professional
Did you return when you had absolutely zero pain or awkward feeling in the elbow?

My GE has improved after 2 cortisone shots spread out over 3 months. I'm doing regular ibuprofen and arm band, no tennis for 3 months, and it is almost 100% normal in terms of feeling. Occasionally there's a funny tingle in the elbow area so I'm worried I'm not 100% and don't want to return to hitting too soon.

Recent MRI showed no tears, and overall "mild" inflammation (but believe me, it used to hurt very badly).
 
ok i'm just wondering when u like bend your elbow and take it back down is there like a little crack or something that wants to pop idk something like that cause i have that and idk what it is and i had like pain around my arm but that's gone but the little crack isn't
 

ac3111

Professional
I read in a research and my coach also told me that after injuries or tennis elbow, tendonitis and other health problems it is better not to use any aid equipment i.e. braces etc, it's better to rest and leave the body come back to its natural position/status and strengthen. I am talking of course for mild injuries and pains not in cases of a broken bone or severe injuries etc...

Also a rule that applies not to rehab exercises but to all kind of exercises. Whenever you work out you stop the exercise or drill if you feel any kind of pain. Stressing beyond limits may cause injuries instead of strengthening the body
 

topsltennis

Semi-Pro
I just play through the pain- it usually subsides after a few minutes of hitting- I've had GE for a couple of years I'd say along with painful knees from tendonitis and lower back issues related to a sports hernia. I may be really hurting myself in the long run but right now I can still go at it 7 days a week.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I just play through the pain- it usually subsides after a few minutes of hitting- I've had GE for a couple of years I'd say along with painful knees from tendonitis and lower back issues related to a sports hernia. I may be really hurting myself in the long run but right now I can still go at it 7 days a week.

Have you tried different racquet/string combos? Had similar experience and playing with a flexible racquet and natural gut at low tensions allowed pain-free tennis.
 

topsltennis

Semi-Pro
Have you tried different racquet/string combos? Had similar experience and playing with a flexible racquet and natural gut at low tensions allowed pain-free tennis.


Well, not really. I use a strange racquet for someone of my playing level- I use the Prince Air Freak OS and I string it very tight at like 74 lbs. The racquet feels like crap strung any looser to me. I might consider switching frames to slightly heavier and smaller frame if I still got them free from Prince, but now I can only get gear at a discount from them. I know that the combo of that racquet with the amount I play and teach everyday- usually about 3 hours is a recipe for disaster for my arm, but its what I like. Plus never taking time off is tough on my knees and lower back.
 
what works for my GE

1. warm up big time before playing ( I use one of those gel bags heated in microwave)
2. ice big time after playing
3. self adminitered deep massage
4. loose and relaxed arm when hitting
5. improve my forehand technique
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Well, not really. I use a strange racquet for someone of my playing level- I use the Prince Air Freak OS and I string it very tight at like 74 lbs. The racquet feels like crap strung any looser to me. I might consider switching frames to slightly heavier and smaller frame if I still got them free from Prince, but now I can only get gear at a discount from them. I know that the combo of that racquet with the amount I play and teach everyday- usually about 3 hours is a recipe for disaster for my arm, but its what I like. Plus never taking time off is tough on my knees and lower back.

Years ago saw a few teaching pros just use a jr. racquet with a built-up grip to feed balls. Its like choking up on a racquet and jr racquets can be flexible. Hrs of feeding must be murder on your arm.
 
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