How Manly do you Feel Hitting 1HBH?
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I feel extremely manly hitting a 1hbh until I get crushed by a 12 yr old girl with a 2hbh.
Shroud
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Tennis balla harps on that in that he says not many coaches can actually teach the 1 hander
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I said it before in some other thread. For coaches getting paid by impatient parents, a 2 HBH is much easier and quicker to get consistent hitting results from than the 1 HBH, so it makes sense. I do not believe that inherently, when executed at the same levels of play, that either is across the boards superior.
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Yeah its horses for courses. But I dont think Sampras or Edberg would have been as good as they were had they not switched to the one hander.
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I love to see the glimmer of fear-in-the-eyes mixed with grudging respect the first time a new opponent sees that I bring a one-hander to the table during our warmups.
I imagine the little gears spinning in their head thinking "Oh Sh1t, this guy is A PLAYER."
I never feel like more of a man than whist holding my follow through for a ridiculously long time and making eye contract with my opponent after unleashing a hammer-of-the-gods OHBH winner.
I imagine the little gears spinning in their head thinking "Oh Sh1t, this guy is A PLAYER."
I never feel like more of a man than whist holding my follow through for a ridiculously long time and making eye contract with my opponent after unleashing a hammer-of-the-gods OHBH winner.
WestboroChe
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No way. The OHBH is a beautiful shot and versatile, sure. But you only have to compare the backhands of Nadal and Djoker to Fed and the difference is obvious. When done correctly it is essentially another forehand. And it clearly doesn't preclude one from hitting a slice backhand when needed/wanted.
Shroud
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Have you seen feds bh lately?? Give me his bh anyday over the 2 you mentioned. He is a way more complete player than either of those guys on the bh side
And remeber Fed was using a 90” racquet for most of his career. Its a big differrnce and no wonder his bh is way better now.
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Fed's BH is light years better than Nadal's.
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This, Stanimal backhand.
And that Mauresmo lass... ouhc!
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Djoker and Fed is a good comparison where I may still give the edge to Djoker because he has a really heavy DTL BH (one that troubled Nadal a lot in 2011/12 and again in 2015). But Nadal uses the backhand mainly to stay in the point. Sometimes, he does unleash great winners off it but they are few and far between. Esp this year, Fed's confidence on the backhand has been almost Wawrinka-esque, maybe better in short passages of play (like 5th set of AO or the IW match against Nadal). I have never seen Nadal look so imperious on the backhand. Yes, it's a solid shot that makes it difficult for opponents to attack him on that wing (should they get past his run around forehand).
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Fed already does that when he's stepping into balls to hit the backhand. He has even done a kind of mule kick 1BH this time, only once or twice, but I did notice it. Mauresmo used to do the mule kick too. But it's tougher to time without both hands on the racquet.
High ball backhand from baseline is not possible with power with 1h. I am talking about the kind of power to blast the ball with whole body weight. Roger can do it on ros. But that is a counter punch.
Dolgopolov85
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Not ROS only. When he's stepping inside the baseline to take backhands on the rise, he takes a hop to get the contact point down. That in essence is what double handers do as well. But it's much harder to time with the one hander. I have tried it a couple of times and the result can range from a mishit to a shot that's too powerful and sails long. While it's always easier to hit shots with feet planted, the forehand/double hander give you a lot more flexibility in making shots from way imperfect positions. THAT is the single biggest drawback of the one hander, you HAVE to get to the ball and in fact a little behind it to make the shot comfortably.
Shroud
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Why do you say that? Lots of clay courter one handers can hit high balls great. At 4’ every ball Henin hit was a high ball...
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Of course Fed has a good backhand. He's the GOAT he can do everything. However it is still his "weak" side. But when you have the best forehand ever it makes it very difficult for players to relentlessly attack one side of the court. Nadal could but he's like maybe the second GOAT?
I still say if you think Feds BH is better than Djoker or even Nadal then you're crazy.
I still say if you think Feds BH is better than Djoker or even Nadal then you're crazy.
Jump 2-handed backhand + high ball + power. Not that 1hbh can't do high balls great.
At 1:20. But this guy is not very good.
Shroud
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Ok. You know you can jump on a one hander right?? Dont make me post that coach mauro vid.
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Not better than or even as good as Djoker but nothing controversial about it being as good as or better than Nadal's because Nadal doesn't use it very much as an offensive weapon. I dare say had he done so, he could have turned around some of his recent losses to Fed. Part of it is his stubborn insistence on the same old run around inside out forehand play but partly also that it has its limitations. I remember seeing some analysis comparing Nadal's BH to Djoko's and what exactly makes the latter a superior shot. Djokovic's backhand is at least on par with that of Safin/Nalbandian/Davydenko. I never feel that way about Nadal's BH, that he could do whatever he wanted to with it. If anything, it's improved this year and he has come up with great cross court winners which we haven't seen much of before from him.
But you don't see people do jump 1hbh often. Because you don't gain lots more power that way, unlike a jump 2hbh that you really can hit much harder. For 1h, the risk of committing errors outweighs the slight gain of power. Occasionally someone does it because they get caught in an odd position, which made that shot from Mauresmo so unusual.
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You're mostly right. I seem to remember Nadal making outrageous defensive BHs all the time. But you're right about his tactics re BH. He doesn't do much with it but it's also very hard to attack. I think that is the key. The OHBH is I think more vulnerable to being broken down by power or high looping shots. Being a lefty and being Nadal that gave him an opening against Fed that other players didn't have. Everyone knows you attack the backhand but that's easier said than done. Really only Nadal could do it with any consistency.
Regarding Djokers BH. He controls points with his BH like no one else. Even Agassi couldn't hit with as much pace and accuracy as him off that side.
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Very manly. I also avoid Babolat products.
No WTA strokes or equipment for me thanks
No WTA strokes or equipment for me thanks
Dolgopolov85
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I would have agreed with this until this year. I saw Fed neutralising high balls to his backhand very well. Thing is earlier when he hit a loopy high BH, it was too short and Nadal, among others, could jump on it. Now he's able to get a lot of depth on that shot so it's much harder to attack. Also, at IW, I saw him jump on a high BH and hit a screaming DTL.
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That’s not true, hitting it harder in the air than your feet on the ground.
Since there is no support from the ground your upoer body cannot accelerate as fast as when you have the feet on the ground.
Hower, some resisting counter force for upper body uncoiling feet off the ground can be achieved by spreading the legs adding the moment of inertia in the lower body.
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It simplifies things a bit, to an extant. Depending on the grip you choose, not having to worry about two hands on the racket at all times, it's a luxury. Also, the feeling of freedom in the ways you can swing the racket, it can sometimes feel limiting with a second hand on the racket.
I used to play 2 handed when I was a kid, but when I got back into tennis again Federer was a huge reason for that, and I wanted to copy him so yeah, I switched to a 1h more out of principle than utility. But I've had plenty of times I could switch back to a 2h over the years, and I always come back to the 1h for that feeling of freedom. I could never figure out how to do a 2h without feeling like my core and spine are getting all twisted up.
I used to play 2 handed when I was a kid, but when I got back into tennis again Federer was a huge reason for that, and I wanted to copy him so yeah, I switched to a 1h more out of principle than utility. But I've had plenty of times I could switch back to a 2h over the years, and I always come back to the 1h for that feeling of freedom. I could never figure out how to do a 2h without feeling like my core and spine are getting all twisted up.
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Just another tool in the Swiss Army Racquet, innit?
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Based on the matches I watched this year, I would say both Fed and Nadal hit their BHs the best of their career. Fed got more agressive (less slice), and Nadal went for more ... more constant rope. I heard a commentator (probably Cahill) say it's the best he (Nadal) has ever hit it. That's what I was seeing.
I think if you got to pick your pro career bh, to me you pick Fed, Djokovic or Wawrinka. If you are picking solely on winning percentage ... Fed or Djoker. The reason I include Wawrinka is he is the only one I have seen that can take the match out of the other players hands (when he is on). Murray is very close to the list ... but just don't see how you put him ahead of Djoker. Murray has more variety, but Djoker never seems to need it.
Now ... if I'm picking what I want to watch:
Fed, Wawrinka ... and Del Potro's fh even if this is a bh thread.
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I like to think that Djoker doesn't need different strokes because he seems to have sooo many options with his backhand. He can be on the full run, and while most players you would only expect them to hit it cross court, Djokovic can seem to put it anywhere at any time. Thats what I feel like makes his backhand so dangerous, because when he wants to, he simply puts the ball anywhere on the court without needing too much preparation time. Even Nadal usually pulls it crosscourt, never really surprises his opponent about where he puts it, unless he rips it so sharply crosscourt that it's a winner.
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Sorry for my ignorance, what is ROS?
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Return of serve
Shroud
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This thread is about being manly. Consistency and stability are womenly virtues...
ByeByePoly
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Obviously you hang out with different women
Shroud
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Well on the everyday things its true. Women doing the trash it gets done more consistently. Same with cleaning the tub, dishes, etc
Toilet paper roll getting put on the holder?consistently women are way better
Coming up with consistently stupid ways to waste the weekend, just proves how consistent women are
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