Hyping Roddick

So I've been reading a lot of articles and posts and it seems people are really jumping on the "Roddick will beat Federer" bandwagon, or atleast they think this will be the big one for Roddick. What's the deal? Is it just the normal "hyping up" of Roddick or do people really beleive this?

Personally I haven't seen anything from Roddick so far at the Australian Open that shows he will beat Federer. His early round matches weren't exactly dominating, I actually thought he was pushed more than many of the other top players. Sure he beat Safin, but Safin isn't exactly the Safin of before, I don't even think Safin is playing well and yet it took 2 tiebreakers.

Ancic pushed Roddick to 5 sets and he's only ranked about 9.

And Mardy Fish, please, that Mardy Fish match was way overhyped, and I am not surprised about the outcome, I think Fish is a pretty cool guy, but he's not a good player. What's he ranked? In the 40's?

So with all of his matches so far, I don't see how people think Roddick is playing oh so well. Sure he is coming to net more, but it is against lower caliber players, and frankly I don't see or think that he is that comfortable at net. I just don't see from his results how this translates to him playing well enough to beat Federer. I mean Fed hasn't even lost a set yet, and I don't think Roddick will be able to venture to the net against Federer, he just doesn't have the confidence at the net to do so.

So why all this hype to Roddick again? I don't get it. Honestly, I don't think he will beat Federer. Please, he beat Mardy Fish convincingly, I'll give him that, but did anyone really expect otherwise?

Anyway, this is one of the articles that I read......
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6399522?FSO1&ATT=HMA
 
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NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
So I've been reading a lot of articles and posts and it seems people are really jumping on the "Roddick will beat Federer" bandwagon, or atleast they think this will be the big one for Roddick. What's the deal? Is it just the normal "hyping up" of Roddick or do people really beleive this?

Personally I haven't seen anything from Roddick so far at the Australian Open that shows he will beat Federer. His early round matches weren't exactly dominating, I actually thought he was pushed more than many of the other top players. Sure he beat Safin, but Safin isn't exactly the Safin of before, I don't even think Safin is playing well and yet it took 2 tiebreakers.

Ancic pushed Roddick to 5 sets and he's only ranked about 9.

And Mardy Fish, please, that Mardy Fish match was way overhyped, and I am not surprised about the outcome, I think Fish is a pretty cool guy, but he's not a good player. What's he ranked? In the 40's?

So with all of his matches so far, I don't see how people think Roddick is playing oh so well. Sure he is coming to net more, but it is against lower caliber players, and frankly I don't see or think that he is that comfortable at net. I just don't see from his results how this translates to him playing well enough to beat Federer. I mean Fed hasn't even lost a set yet, and I don't think Roddick will be able to venture to the net against Federer, he just doesn't have the confidence at the net to do so.

So why all this hype to Roddick again? I don't get it. Honestly, I don't think he will beat Federer. Please, he beat Mardy Fish convincingly, I'll give him that, but did anyone really expect otherwise?

Anyway, this is one of the articles that I read......
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6399522?FSO1&ATT=HMA


He really pushed Federer at the U.S. Open final and forced Federer to not toy with him and actually play for real.


He nearly beat Federer at the TMC RR.


He was on fire at the Wimbledon Final against Federer, literally crushing every ball that came his way, and probably would have pushed it to at least a 5th set if not win it had the rain delay not come.


This Roddick is not the Roddick of before. He's had some very tough matches (Ancic is a tough opponent, battles to the very end) to get to the semis. Federer probably will beat Roddick, but it's going to be a very close match.
 

Polaris

Hall of Fame
He really pushed Federer at the U.S. Open final and forced Federer to not toy with him and actually play for real.
He nearly beat Federer at the TMC RR.
Fair enough.
He was on fire at the Wimbledon Final against Federer, literally crushing every ball that came his way, and probably would have pushed it to at least a 5th set if not win it had the rain delay not come.
That was 2.5 years ago, for heaven's sake! Roddick got massacred in the 2005 final, and was bounced out early in 2006. That match has absolutely no bearing on the topic at hand.
 
So I've been reading a lot of articles and posts and it seems people are really jumping on the "Roddick will beat Federer" bandwagon, or atleast they think this will be the big one for Roddick. What's the deal? Is it just the normal "hyping up" of Roddick or do people really beleive this?

Personally I haven't seen anything from Roddick so far at the Australian Open that shows he will beat Federer. His early round matches weren't exactly dominating, I actually thought he was pushed more than many of the other top players. Sure he beat Safin, but Safin isn't exactly the Safin of before, I don't even think Safin is playing well and yet it took 2 tiebreakers.

Ancic pushed Roddick to 5 sets and he's only ranked about 9.

And Mardy Fish, please, that Mardy Fish match was way overhyped, and I am not surprised about the outcome, I think Fish is a pretty cool guy, but he's not a good player. What's he ranked? In the 40's?

So with all of his matches so far, I don't see how people think Roddick is playing oh so well. Sure he is coming to net more, but it is against lower caliber players, and frankly I don't see or think that he is that comfortable at net. I just don't see from his results how this translates to him playing well enough to beat Federer. I mean Fed hasn't even lost a set yet, and I don't think Roddick will be able to venture to the net against Federer, he just doesn't have the confidence at the net to do so.

So why all this hype to Roddick again? I don't get it. Honestly, I don't think he will beat Federer. Please, he beat Mardy Fish convincingly, I'll give him that, but did anyone really expect otherwise?

Anyway, this is one of the articles that I read......
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6399522?FSO1&ATT=HMA

do you want a good reason why roddick has a chance to beat federer?
roddick defeated federer during an exhibiton match just before the australian open. putting an end to his losing streek against federer.

in addition, roddick has greatly improve his game since he's had connors as coach. for more info check my post in the thread "roddick proved me wrong".

personally, i'll be cheering for federer but i can't denied the fact that roddick has improved a lot and has chance to win this match.

we'll just have to wait and see.
 

Nextman916

Professional
So I've been reading a lot of articles and posts and it seems people are really jumping on the "Roddick will beat Federer" bandwagon, or atleast they think this will be the big one for Roddick. What's the deal? Is it just the normal "hyping up" of Roddick or do people really beleive this?

Personally I haven't seen anything from Roddick so far at the Australian Open that shows he will beat Federer. His early round matches weren't exactly dominating, I actually thought he was pushed more than many of the other top players. Sure he beat Safin, but Safin isn't exactly the Safin of before, I don't even think Safin is playing well and yet it took 2 tiebreakers.

Ancic pushed Roddick to 5 sets and he's only ranked about 9.

And Mardy Fish, please, that Mardy Fish match was way overhyped, and I am not surprised about the outcome, I think Fish is a pretty cool guy, but he's not a good player. What's he ranked? In the 40's?

So with all of his matches so far, I don't see how people think Roddick is playing oh so well. Sure he is coming to net more, but it is against lower caliber players, and frankly I don't see or think that he is that comfortable at net. I just don't see from his results how this translates to him playing well enough to beat Federer. I mean Fed hasn't even lost a set yet, and I don't think Roddick will be able to venture to the net against Federer, he just doesn't have the confidence at the net to do so.

So why all this hype to Roddick again? I don't get it. Honestly, I don't think he will beat Federer. Please, he beat Mardy Fish convincingly, I'll give him that, but did anyone really expect otherwise?

Anyway, this is one of the articles that I read......
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6399522?FSO1&ATT=HMA

Just proving again that ranking doesnt always effect the result. Safin would have been tough for Fed even to come out on a straights set defeat, Safin surely would have won a set, he has so much confidence in facing fed and shows no fear. Mario played brilliant he would have challenged fed and taken at least a set or two the way he was serving, that match was quote by roddick "the best hes ever played". I do agree that Fish blew his chance, and got completely demolished and couldnt comeback. I just dont think your argument of ranking effects how well they played nor how well Roddick had to play to beat them.


-Also the hype isnt that overwhelming compared to what Arod has always received, its a bit more but i believe he earned it, from coming out of a crappy 2006 at #6 in the world. Many people still doubted his 2007 yr would be as successful as the end of 2006, yet he wins the exhibition in kooyong, and now reaches the a hard fought semi final in the Australian. I think what he is receiving now is well deserved, Andy is again at the top of the mens game.
 
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do you want a good reason why roddick has a chance to beat federer?
roddick defeated federer during an exhibiton match just before the australian open. putting an end to his losing streek against federer.

in addition, roddick has greatly improve his game since he's had connors as coach. for more info check my post in the thread "roddick proved me wrong".

personally, i'll be cheering for federer but i can't denied the fact that roddick has improved a lot and has chance to win this match.

we'll just have to wait and see.

That was an EXHIBITION match, not only does it not count in their head to head, but do you really think players try and play as well during an exhibition match as for a real ATP event, let along a Slam? That match doesn't mean anything in my opinion.
 
Just proving again that ranking doesnt always effect the result. Safin would have been tough for Fed even to come out on a straights set defeat, Safin surely would have won a set, he has so much confidence in facing fed and shows no fear. Mario played brilliant he would have challenged fed and taken at least a set or two the way he was serving, that match was quote by roddick "the best hes ever played". I do agree that Fish blew his chance, and got completely demolished and couldnt comeback. I just dont think your argument of ranking effects how well they played nor how well Roddick had to play to beat them.


-Also the hype isnt that overwhelming compared to what Arod has always received, its a bit more but i believe he earned it, from coming out of a crappy 2006 at #6 in the world. Many people still doubted his 2007 yr would be as successful as the end of 2006, yet he wins the exhibition in kooyong, and now reaches the a hard fought semi final in the Australian. I think what he is receiving now is well deserved, Andy is again at the top of the mens game.

I guess I just don't think Ancic is exactly top 5 material. He's a good player, but he's not exactly Federer or Nadal, he hasn't really had any great results. I get what you are saying about ranking doesn't really mean the player though. But Mardy Fish is not a good player, I don't see how beating him 6-2 in straight sets means a player is on fire. Murray almost triple bagelled someone, I don't think that meant Murray was gonna go far.
 

Alexandros

Professional
It means something, but not as much as some Roddick fans would want it to. Kooyong isn't like any exhibition - it's a warm up for the Australian Open and Federer would not have been too keen on losing to Roddick, as this may dull the mental edge advantage that Federer has on Roddick.
 

dave333

Hall of Fame
if roddick serves and volleys, fed definitely will have to step that return game up. otherwise, roddick is just outgunned. Its all gonna be down to returning feds blocks and slices.
 

VolklVenom

Semi-Pro
after watching all of Feds games at Kooyong, it is of my opinion that Federer was a little relaxed, carefree and only interested in hitting a few balls and possibly experimenting with some S&V moves.
 

MinhD

New User
Kooyong didn't mean anything, it's an XO and the players don't try as hard for them, they're not going to risk injury or kill themselves just before a slam for a warm up, exhibition tournament. The results don't affect your ranking and doesn't even get counted in your H2H. For those that forgot, Haas beat Federer last year in the same event, lot of good that did Haas in last year's AO.

And by the way, Andy didn't put an "end to his losing streak" against Federer, because again, that XO match doesn't count, it's like it never happened, so if you check the records, his last win was in 2003, not in Jan 2007.

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/headtohead/default.asp?playernum1=F324&playernum2=R485
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
We hype Roddick because other than Nadal, he's the only one with a decent chance to beat Federer. We hype people up so people will watch the match, to make the match intresting, and not to make the outcome so predictable. Cmon now, basic marketing strategy...
 

FD3S

Hall of Fame
Bear in mind... while saying Kooyong proves that Roddick will beat Federer is a gross overstatement, saying that Roddick's win meant absolutely nothing is just as big an overstatement. H2H, ranking... while the Kooyong match didn't affect those, I'll bet it helped Roddick's psyche more than a little.
 

eunjam

Rookie
roddick is definitely in a zone right now.......but still not good enough for fed on his game.

sure....anyone can have a bad day and roddick if he's absolutely on......can beat fed on a bad day.

but.....i doubt it.

fed has something to prove.....and he will kick andy's ass.
 
That was an EXHIBITION match, not only does it not count in their head to head, but do you really think players try and play as well during an exhibition match as for a real ATP event, let along a Slam? That match doesn't mean anything in my opinion.

Agree. Federer served and volleyed on SECOND serve. COME on...and still took a set...Obviously it was practice.

~Joe
 

Grimjack

Banned
Roddick has played Fed enough times to know that the Fed you play in a grand slam tournament is a baseliner; NOT a serve and volleyer. The fact that Fed S&V'd the hell out of that match would have rendered the result meaningless no matter what the outcome.

You wouldn't get juiced about beating Michael Schumacher in an auto race if you get to drive an F1 car, and he drives a go-kart for laughs. Sure, you still get to say you did it, but nobody cares, and you know damn well it doesn't mean you can beat him in fair competition.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
Fair enough.

That was 2.5 years ago, for heaven's sake! Roddick got massacred in the 2005 final, and was bounced out early in 2006. That match has absolutely no bearing on the topic at hand.


Roddick was the only one who could take a set off of Federer at Wimbledon, and he looked like he was in position to win another one. It proves that when Roddick has confidence, he can beat Federer.


That was BEFORE he had Jimmy Conners as a coach also. Now with massive upgrades to his game, I think he can really push Federer if not beat him.
 

MinhD

New User
Not counting tomorrow, Roddick has played Federer 4 times in slams: 3 times at W and once at USO. In those four, best of 5 set matches, Roddick has managed to win a total of 3 sets combined and not once has he managed to win more then 1 (I repeat ONE) set per match. Now he's expected to win 3 in one match?

Hell, even in their best of 3 set matches (9 in total), Roddick has only managed to win 2 sets in one match ONCE... out of 9 tries.

I understand why the tournament and the media are hyping him and this match, but history and reality says Roddick, new or old, just doesn't have what it takes to beat Rogah in a slam, best of 5 set match. Sure he *had* match points against Fedex at the YEC, but that was best of 3 sets and even then he couldn't pull it off.

Rogah in 4 and I don't think anybody but Joe Public would be too surprised if it was in 3. I'm sure even PMac, off the record or if he had to bet his own money on it, would admit Roddick doesn't stand a chance.
 
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nikdom

Guest
Sure he *had* match points against Fedex at the YEC, but that was best of 3 sets and even then he couldn't pull it off.

Totally agree...

I'm tired of hearing about how Roddick has improved and in his own words "closing the gap" with Federer. While it is true that Jimmy's addition has made a huge difference to Roddick's game, other players have improved as well! (Take Gonzo for example or Murray and for that matter even Fed who's playing better than last year). So Andy- don't bother explaining how the gap is closing and all that crap until you actually win another GS trophy. I for one will not be a believer until Roddick actually beats Federer AND wins the final against Nadal (or Gonzo in the interest of fairness). Enough talk. Show me the trophy. Make naysayers like me shut up.
 

CaptainInsano

New User
Looking at those 2 players' history, sure Fed will most likely crush him.

But when seeing how Roddick's confidence has increased, can stay longer in a point and keeping focus when it's getting tough (like with Ancic) it seems he'll be better able to fight against The Boss. He also played 13 times against him so I would bet that Connors gave him good pointers on what he did wrong and what he did good.

Fed on the otherhand... well maybe he'll catch the Avian Flu, get stung by a scorpion or drop the One Ring and won't be able to play at 100%.

It would be a great surprise if Andy wins but since his Mojo seems to be back we'll certainly have a good match. I'm still cheering for Fed since he's much more mature and plays point so well.
 
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x_Mrs_Roddick_x

Guest
aww I think it's good to see that Andy is back to playing well & up there with challenging Fed. He has proved so many wrong the last couple months & has shown people how he can really play when his confidence is high! Me being a huge Roddick fan, of course I'm gonna stick up for him! I think it is awesome that he is back playing to the best of his ability & just giving it his all! He is such an entertaining player & never gives up! Nobody can just make the semis of a Slam, they have to work for it :)

Plus Fed would not like to lose any match against anyone cos at the XO Andy played brilliant & with Andy winning, has given him more confidence! Fed will not like that for sure. I think it's great to see Andy being able to at least challenge Fed :)

GO ANDY!!
 

barry

Hall of Fame
This is probably Rodneck's best chance. Federer is sick with a sinus infection and high temperature. If he plays 50% like he did in his last match he will win.

I am tired of ESPN and the Roddick Williams hype, eve if Williams is the HEAVE favorite! ESPN needs to get off the American's and show quality tennis matches.
 

Ten_is

Rookie
oh I agree with that.
Everyone has to know about the bolliteri academy or that Jim Connors is the new coach for Andy Roddick. Most of the best players are from Europe. Croatia, Russia, Switzerland etc..

Federer does have a cold and sinus. And it's pretty bad. Andy will shine, and he will do good. But Federer is still the best player in the world. He still has better serves than Roddick, and his returns are better. He gets more aces on Roddick than Roddick on him.

It will be a great match for sure. Andy really wants this one. Hopefully the last set won't be 6-0 though :-o
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
Totally agree...

I'm tired of hearing about how Roddick has improved and in his own words "closing the gap" with Federer. While it is true that Jimmy's addition has made a huge difference to Roddick's game, other players have improved as well! (Take Gonzo for example or Murray and for that matter even Fed who's playing better than last year). So Andy- don't bother explaining how the gap is closing and all that crap until you actually win another GS trophy. I for one will not be a believer until Roddick actually beats Federer AND wins the final against Nadal (or Gonzo in the interest of fairness). Enough talk. Show me the trophy. Make naysayers like me shut up.

Well you see, by closing the gap, Roddick is getting better, therefore, his chances of beating Fed are better, slightly.

Honestly, I still think Fed will win. I just hope Roddick will make a great match out of it. Maybe with a few lucky breaks here and there, the match outcome can change.
 

Matthew

Professional
Roddick played the best tennis he has played in a VERY long time against Safin. The difference in Roddick now is his backhand. He is going to for Federer to respect it, and that is going to lead to more forehands.
 

xanctus

Semi-Pro
do you want a good reason why roddick has a chance to beat federer?
roddick defeated federer during an exhibiton match just before the australian open. putting an end to his losing streek against federer.

in addition, roddick has greatly improve his game since he's had connors as coach. for more info check my post in the thread "roddick proved me wrong".

personally, i'll be cheering for federer but i can't denied the fact that roddick has improved a lot and has chance to win this match.

we'll just have to wait and see.

I am so agree with you...
Andy has improved his game a lottt...I mean a lot!
Plus, the exhibition game that he won against roger...somehow would be a good motivation or thing to keep it up.
I am with Roger, but I have a feeling that andy could win.
 
Well I guess it was proven that it was all hype now. Geez, once Roddick actually does something worth counting, then start praising him, cause everytime people hype him up like this, it only hurts his ego.
 

Cfidave

Professional
I was glad to see Federer win, again. I was even happier to see him absolutely crush, the improved Roddick. I say this not because I hate Roddick, but because I simply can not stand the constant hype from PMac, and Drysdale. I figure if Roddick gets a thorough beat down, maybe, just maybe, ESPN will give it a rest.
 

julianoz

Semi-Pro
Roddick was the only one who could take a set off of Federer at Wimbledon, and he looked like he was in position to win another one. It proves that when Roddick has confidence, he can beat Federer.


That was BEFORE he had Jimmy Conners as a coach also. Now with massive upgrades to his game, I think he can really push Federer if not beat him.

:p :p :p :p
 

0d1n

Hall of Fame
LOL. Yeh Rodick had a chance, but it was so slim that he lost sight of it as soon as the match started.
I just loved to read the posts of blind Rodick fans that kept telling everybody how he has improved and is now a REAL threat to Fedster.
This was extremely funny to read after the match was finished :D. Just goes to show how people never lose HOPE.
 

xanctus

Semi-Pro
Mamamia, my thought was completely wrong hahaha.
I was with Roger all the time, but I just thought he might have a serious problem against andy. I didn't expect end this way...mamamia
 
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