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clayqueen

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'I’ve never seen anyone like him' - John McEnroe hails 'unbelievable' Rafael Nadal ahead of US Open

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” John McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far. I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do."

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far.

“I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort, you know, match in and match out, game in and game out, is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do.

“Otherwise, everyone would do it. I mean, you just say, well go to Nick Kyrgios and say ‘go out and give an effort, you’ll be No. 2, No. 3 in the world. Well, if it was that easy, I guess he would do it. But you know, for him, it isn’t."

 

Russeljones

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The difference being, everyone says this about Rafa.
Just imagine this scenario: Djokovic is barred from entering the US. Zverev is not yet fit enough. Medvedev loses in R3. Nadal plays a mix of top 200 players on his way to #23. How will you judge his performance?
 

weakera

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Rattie

Legend
Just imagine this scenario: Djokovic is barred from entering the US. Zverev is not yet fit enough. Medvedev loses in R3. Nadal plays a mix of top 200 players on his way to #23. How will you judge his performance?
You mean a similar scenario to Djokovic winning this year’s Wimbledon? Where Medvedev was barred from entering, Zverev out injured, Berrettini out with Covid, Nadal pulled out with injury and Djokovic played a mix of players, none of whom were top 10 on his way to #21?
Like that?
 

clayqueen

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Just imagine this scenario: Djokovic is barred from entering the US. Zverev is not yet fit enough. Medvedev loses in R3. Nadal plays a mix of top 200 players on his way to #23. How will you judge his performance?
If he can win the USO with all of the above in the draw it wouldn't make any difference if he won it without them because Rafa always gives 100% effort irrespective of who he is playing.
 

clayqueen

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You mean a similar scenario to Djokovic winning this year’s Wimbledon? Where Medvedev was barred from entering, Zverev out injured, Berrettini out with Covid, Nadal pulled out with injury and Djokovic played a mix of players, none of whom were top 10 on his way to #21?
Like that?
The difference is, Djokovic's performance through the Wimbledon draw was below average, he avoided Rafa and played the overrated Kyrgios in the final.
 

Adv. Edberg

Legend
Just imagine this scenario: Djokovic is barred from entering the US. Zverev is not yet fit enough. Medvedev loses in R3. Nadal plays a mix of top 200 players on his way to #23. How will you judge his performance?

Djoko isn't barred from entering US. Exact same rules/policy applies to Nadal and everybody else in the world. So Djokovic isn't more banned than anybody else.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Nadal fights hard on court, but I question how hard he works off court.

- He is often injured at the AO time just after the offseason making you wonder if he slacks off on his yacht during the off-season
- He has missed more Slams and major tournaments than his major rivals due to injuries
- No one raves about his anti-inflammatory diet or flexibility routines like they do about his main rival Djokovic
- The locker room talks about how he is obsessed with golf and plays two rounds every day including on match days at Indian Wells.
- There are many seasons in which he seems to carry too much weight around his belly in photos which has never been an issue for his main rival Djokovic.
- I know coaches who coach every year at Indian Wells with access to the player gyms and they don’t rave about Nadal being a hard worker like they rave about Djokovic, Zverev etc.
- The hardest workers in most other sports by reputation don’t get injured a lot - unlike Nadal who gets all kind of niggling injuries all the time.

I have no reason to believe that he is a harder worker off court like his main rivals and some clues to think he might not be. McEnroe is just a public relations hack who will hype up every top player to get ratings for the next tournament he is commentating on. He has anointed every member of the Big 3 as the GOAT/BOAT many times and has no shame in changing his mind every six months.
 
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Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
You mean a similar scenario to Djokovic winning this year’s Wimbledon? Where Medvedev was barred from entering, Zverev out injured, Berrettini out with Covid, Nadal pulled out with injury and Djokovic played a mix of players, none of whom were top 10 on his way to #21?
Like that?



Sinner and Norrie were ranked top-10 seeds. Sinner beat Alcaraz in an incredible match, he was certainly playing top-10, even top-5.
Van Rijthoven was undefeated on grass this year and crushed the world number #1 in a final.
Kyrgios plays top-5 on grass when he's at his best, every players know that. I'm sure Djokovic would rather play Nadal over Kyrgios on grass.
I've seen much easier draws than Wimbledon 2022. USO 2017, or AO 2018 come to my mind.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
If he can win the USO with all of the above in the draw it wouldn't make any difference if he won it without them because Rafa always gives 100% effort irrespective of who he is playing.
Still couldn't answer my question. The only thing I am seeing is that the draws of others matter while the draws of Nadal don't matter.

You mean a similar scenario to Djokovic winning this year’s Wimbledon? Where Medvedev was barred from entering, Zverev out injured, Berrettini out with Covid, Nadal pulled out with injury and Djokovic played a mix of players, none of whom were top 10 on his way to #21?
Like that?
You get a cookie.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal fights hard on court, but I question how hard he works off court.

- He is often injured at the AO time just after the offseason making you wonder if he slacks off on his yacht during the off-season
- He has missed more Slams and major tournaments than his major rivals due to injuries
- No one raves about his anti-inflammatory diet or flexibility routines like they do about his main rival Djokovic
- The locker room talks about how he is obsessed with golf and plays two rounds every day including on match days at Indian Wells.
- There are many seasons in which he seems to carry too much weight around his belly in photos which has never been an issue for his main rival Djokovic.
- I know coaches who coach every year at Indian Wells with access to the player gyms and they don’t rave about Nadal being a hard worker like they rave about Djokovic, Zverev etc.
- The hardest workers in most other sports by reputation don’t get injured a lot - unlike Nadal who gets all kind of niggling injuries all the time.

I have no reason to believe that he is a harder worker off court like his main rivals and some clues to think he might not be. McEnroe is just a public relations hack who will hype up every top player to get ratings for the next tournament he is commentating on. He has anointed every member of the Big 3 as the GOAT/BOAT many times and has no shame in changing his mind every six months.
And inspite of all of your musings, he is the GOAT.

 

tex123

Hall of Fame
'I’ve never seen anyone like him' - John McEnroe hails 'unbelievable' Rafael Nadal ahead of US Open

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” John McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far. I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do."

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far.

“I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort, you know, match in and match out, game in and game out, is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do.

“Otherwise, everyone would do it. I mean, you just say, well go to Nick Kyrgios and say ‘go out and give an effort, you’ll be No. 2, No. 3 in the world. Well, if it was that easy, I guess he would do it. But you know, for him, it isn’t."

I'm exactly like him but not in tennis. ;)
 

Rattie

Legend
Sinner and Norrie were ranked top-10 seeds. Sinner beat Alcaraz in an incredible match, he was certainly playing top-10, even top-5.
Van Rijthoven was undefeated on grass this year and crushed the world number #1 in a final.
Kyrgios plays top-5 on grass when he's at his best, every players know that. I'm sure Djokovic would rather play Nadal over Kyrgios on grass.
I've seen much easier draws than Wimbledon 2022. USO 2017, or AO 2018 come to my mind.
Top 10 seeds because higher ranked players were missing from the draw. They weren’t top 10 in the rankings. Sinner beat a very inexperienced Alcaraz adjusting to the surface. I’d agree it was great play by Jannik though.
I disagree, I think Djokovic would rather have played Kyrgios than Rafa, who had he met in the final would have been at a level where he could have matched Novak.
My point is, whether there have been easier draws elsewhere or not, this draw was markedly easy in comparison to what it could and should have been, given the absence of many threats, who he avoided due to banning, illness, injury or getting knocked out early.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
yeah but you make it sound like Djoko didn't have a choice. Like he isn't being treated like everybody else.
No, I did first use the word "imagine" for a hypothetical scenario. It is reasonable to expect people reading it would take that to mean exactly that. I am not responsible for people looking for meanings neither intended or worded.
 

octobrina10

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Just imagine this scenario: Djokovic is barred from entering the US. Zverev is not yet fit enough. Medvedev loses in R3. Nadal plays a mix of top 200 players on his way to #23. How will you judge his performance?
Djoko didn't play any top-10 players on his way to #21 at Wimbledon. I wonder how you judged his performance. :unsure:
 
Djoko isn't barred from entering US. Exact same rules/policy applies to Nadal and everybody else in the world. So Djokovic isn't more banned than anybody else.
Yes, that's exactly right.

Djokovic is CHOOSING to skip US due to his own agendas.

If he was smart, he'd take Johnson and Johnson's single dose vaccine or at least fake/pretend to take the vaccine ...this way he'd get a vaccine pass to travel anywhere.

But he is CHOOSING to be such an anti-vax that he won't even fake it. I mean there's probably several players who have faked taking the vaccine.. Djokovic has to be an idiot.
 

Rattie

Legend
Nadal fights hard on court, but I question how hard he works off court.

- He is often injured at the AO time just after the offseason making you wonder if he slacks off on his yacht during the off-season
- He has missed more Slams and major tournaments than his major rivals due to injuries
- No one raves about his anti-inflammatory diet or flexibility routines like they do about his main rival Djokovic
- The locker room talks about how he is obsessed with golf and plays two rounds every day including on match days at Indian Wells.
- There are many seasons in which he seems to carry too much weight around his belly in photos which has never been an issue for his main rival Djokovic.
- I know coaches who coach every year at Indian Wells with access to the player gyms and they don’t rave about Nadal being a hard worker like they rave about Djokovic, Zverev etc.
- The hardest workers in most other sports by reputation don’t get injured a lot - unlike Nadal who gets all kind of niggling injuries all the time.

I have no reason to believe that he is a harder worker off court like his main rivals and some clues to think he might not be. McEnroe is just a public relations hack who will hype up every top player to get ratings for the next tournament he is commentating on. He has anointed every member of the Big 3 as the GOAT/BOAT many times and has no shame in changing his mind every six months.
Your comments seem to be result of not having information leading you to an awful lot of assumptions, none of which are convincing. Rafa doesn’t broadcast his regimes in the way other players seem to, that’s all.

Maybe read this article and think again.


A brief quote from it states:
Rafa Nadal’s workout has become so chiselled and distinctive over the years that for 2022, Technogym has actually created a gym dedicated to the tennis legend’s training regime.

Located in Mallorca, the newly created gym has been carefully designed to reflect a diligent recovery and fitness regime with Rafa’s most frequently used Technogym products including: Kenesis, which can stimulate the technical gestures of a full-movement sport like tennis; Skillrow, which is an indoor rowing machine designed to improve anaerobic power, aerobic capacity, and neuromuscular abilities; and Skillrun, which combines cardio and strength training to improve both performance and stability at the same time.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Located in Mallorca, the newly created gym has been carefully designed to reflect a diligent recovery and fitness regime with Rafa’s most frequently used Technogym products including: Kenesis, which can stimulate the technical gestures of a full-movement sport like tennis; Skillrow, which is an indoor rowing machine designed to improve anaerobic power, aerobic capacity, and neuromuscular abilities; and Skillrun, which combines cardio and strength training to improve both performance and stability at the same time.
This sounds like an ad for a product he is paid to endorse. Just like the Rolex commercials that hype Federer. Why does he get injured so much if he is such a hard worker including early in many seasons? This doesn’t happen to those greats who are supposed to be the hardest workers in other sports. Also, why does he play so much golf during tennis tournaments?
 

Rattie

Legend
This sounds like an ad for a product he is paid to endorse. Just like the Rolex commercials that hype Federer. Why does he get injured so much if he is such a hard worker including early in many seasons? This doesn’t halogen to those who are supposed to be the hardest workers in other sports. Also, why does he play so much golf during tennis tournaments?
Read the whole article then, rather than dismissing out of hand because you’ve only read what I quoted.
Many of his injuries are a consequence of the additional strain on other areas because of his foot. That is well documented.
His rib injury was a result of over use….hardly the type of injury he would get if he wasn’t a hard worker, logically.
His muscle tear is common among tennis players.
He plays golf because he likes it. So what?
You don’t think he works hard off the court. I’ve just given you enough info to show that he does.
 
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octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal fights hard on court, but I question how hard he works off court.

- He is often injured at the AO time just after the offseason making you wonder if he slacks off on his yacht during the off-season
- He has missed more Slams and major tournaments than his major rivals due to injuries
- No one raves about his anti-inflammatory diet or flexibility routines like they do about his main rival Djokovic
- The locker room talks about how he is obsessed with golf and plays two rounds every day including on match days at Indian Wells.
- There are many seasons in which he seems to carry too much weight around his belly in photos which has never been an issue for his main rival Djokovic.
- I know coaches who coach every year at Indian Wells with access to the player gyms and they don’t rave about Nadal being a hard worker like they rave about Djokovic, Zverev etc.
- The hardest workers in most other sports by reputation don’t get injured a lot - unlike Nadal who gets all kind of niggling injuries all the time.

I have no reason to believe that he is a harder worker off court like his main rivals and some clues to think he might not be. McEnroe is just a public relations hack who will hype up every top player to get ratings for the next tournament he is commentating on. He has anointed every member of the Big 3 as the GOAT/BOAT many times and has no shame in changing his mind every six months.
OMG! Your every sentence about Rafa is a blatant lie. :eek:
 
I would love to see what these people look like who keep insisting Rafa is fat. If he is fat, then I'd hate to see what thin looks like. Rafa has never carried "too much weight around his belly". Seriously stupid to say he has.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Is it just me or are Nadal fans creating more threads than ever since Wimbledon finished? :confused: Coping mechanism perhaps?
In my opinion, both Nadal and Djokovic fans are creating too many threads and should start to pay taxes on them.
Us, Fed fans have already quit tennis and we are looking for free pickleball courts to play in the weekend.
 
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Keizer

Hall of Fame
Don’t understand the cynicism here. We don’t need McEnroe to tell us this. In all of pro sports I have never seen an athlete who is able to maintain the same energy and positive effort throughout a match as Nadal. People like Novak also put their bodies on the line but get visibly frustrated, break racquets and things like that. Nadal’s attitude during a match barely changes. I remember watching the Nadal-Thiem match at the USO where he got bageled the first set. The guy just went to his seat like he always does, put the set behind, and won in 5. Just amazing mentality, can’t think of what I wouldn’t be willing to trade to approach my job the same way he does.
 

Tennis_Monk

Hall of Fame
'I’ve never seen anyone like him' - John McEnroe hails 'unbelievable' Rafael Nadal ahead of US Open

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” John McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far. I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do."

“I’ve never seen anyone like him,” McEnroe told Tennis365. "I thought Jimmy Connors tried hard until I saw Rafael Nadal, this is insane. And that’s the greatest quality he has, by far.

“I mean, the guy’s an unbelievable player, we all know that. But the fact that he can go out there and give that type of effort, you know, match in and match out, game in and game out, is something that people aspire to, but it’s very difficult to do.

“Otherwise, everyone would do it. I mean, you just say, well go to Nick Kyrgios and say ‘go out and give an effort, you’ll be No. 2, No. 3 in the world. Well, if it was that easy, I guess he would do it. But you know, for him, it isn’t."

'I’ve never seen anyone like him' - John McEnroe
Really John?? why would you? There isnt anyone like Rafa..or Novak or Roger or ....
 
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