I guess Rune is going the way of FAA instead of sinner/alcaraz

[Impetus]

He has a very high ceiling??
Kyrgios has a high ceiling but no discipline or consistency.
Rune is the same level as Ruud/De Minaur- very good average players with no outstanding skills or attributes.

You're entitled to your opinion, but then we should at least make arguments for our point of views.

I think Rune has a high ceiling because he has a good all court game and in terms of coming to the net he's the most aggressive player on the tour. This style of play is tricky because you need to master a lot more different shorts and variation which comes with a higher risk but when it succedes it also has the highest ceiling.

I don't say in any way that a high ceiling is any guarantee for success. Persistency and stability are more important.

I haven't been able to watch a lot of Rune's matches lately, but I will give you an example from UTS in Oslo when he played Ruud. Rune won the first set 21-6 and he played absolutely brillant tennis. He then dropped significantly in level and lost the next 3 sets.
His first set was at an extremely high level (ceiling) but he lost the match due to lack of stability and persistence.

I have great doubt about Rune's mental ability and the choices he makes outside court. I don't have any doubt his ceiling is extremely high. That is why so many refer to his game as hot/cold.

If you can elaboration your point it would be nice.

 

[Hitman]

I like how at 20 years of age despite many of us seeing the crazy potential in him, that he is washed up and going down.

Remind me just how good Federer was at 20? He also looked like a huge underachiever early on, won his first big title when he was 20 and a few months away from turning 21.

 

[Pablo1989]

That's why I became an Alcaraz fan in October 2023.
I hated Alcaraz's grunt and hated the idea of spending the next 20 years with the worst grunt on tour, but in the end I had to support Alcaraz because I knew Rune did not have IT.
And by IT i mean professionalism and the intent to WIN every match, and Rune clearly lacks the necessary focus and dedication.
And that's why I supported Nadal over Federer, because Federer was not professional early in his career.

You are the exact definition of a glory hunter. LOL.

 

[KantenKlaar]

You're entitled to your opinion, but then we should at least make arguments for our point of views.

I think Rune has a high ceiling because he has a good all court game and in terms of coming to the net he's the most aggressive player on the tour. This style of play is tricky because you need to master a lot more different shorts and variation which comes with a higher risk but when it succedes it also has the highest ceiling.

I don't say in any way that a high ceiling is any guarantee for success. Persistency and stability are more important.

I haven't been able to watch a lot of Rune's matches lately, but I will give you an example from UTS in Oslo when he played Ruud. Rune won the first set 21-6 and he played absolutely brillant tennis. He then dropped significantly in level and lost the next 3 sets.
His first set was at an extremely high level (ceiling) but he lost the match due to lack of stability and persistence.

I have great doubt about Rune's mental ability and the choices he makes outside court. I don't have any doubt his ceiling is extremely high. That is why so many refer to his game as hot/cold.

If you can elaboration your point it would be nice.

Totally agree.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I like how at 20 years of age despite many of us seeing the crazy potential in him, that he is washed up and going down.

Remind me just how good Federer was at 20? He also looked like a huge underachiever early on, won his first big title when he was 20 and a few months away from turning 21.

Rune is supremely talented. Nole said so at Turin last year. Then rune ran sinner close as well.

His problem might be his attitude. If he gets a great coach, doesn't have to be a celebrity but someone who can teach him ethics probably, if he puts in discipline and not get overworked, he is going places for sure. A surefire slam worthy guy. But needs to work hard on stamina.

My first time impression on sinner was not good. But he has worked very hard to get to the top of tennis. But rune did impress me a lot. The guy is too good to be another FAA. FAA lacked talent.

 

[dking68]

Rune is supremely talented. Nole said so at Turin last year. Then rune ran sinner close as well.

His problem might be his attitude. If he gets a great coach, doesn't have to be a celebrity but someone who can teach him ethics probably, if he puts in discipline and not get overworked, he is going places for sure. A surefire slam worthy guy. But needs to work hard on stamina.

My first time impression on sinner was not good. But he has worked very hard to get to the top of tennis. But rune did impress me a lot. The guy is too good to be another FAA. FAA lacked talent.

FAA ran Nadal close at Roland Garros. Did it mean much in the end?

It all comes down to the players dedication and hard work. If he wants to be a champion he has to drop mommy

Look at Sinner, he dropped Piatti in 2022 when he got trounced by Tsitsipas in AO 2022 and Zverev in 2021 USO. He wanted more. 2 years later, he’s a GS winner. And yes, before the 2 aforementioned losers.

Thing is I have no hope in Rune. Sinner always wants to improve, even with the big success he’s having now. Rune needs to make some drastic changes. But what I can say, Rune is no Sinner because at Runes age Sinner was way better than he was. He had a 2 set lead over Nole at Wimbledon and he had MP on Alcaraz at USO. That’s some serious improvement. Now he’s a slam winner.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

This. And yet he's considered a quality win by some.

I think the Paris win was a quality win. Rome not so much because Djokovic lost to all kinds of players Bo3 in the past 3/4 years.

But he beat Djokovic in Paris when Djokovic won everything around that period. Granted it was a bit of a lucky win because Djokovic was awful on BPs and I think he won more points on serve and overall but somehow still ended up losing. But regardless of that, he was very tough to beat at the time of that win and it was only defeat for a long time.

 

[nolefam_2024]

FAA ran Nadal close at Roland Garros. Did it mean much in the end?

It all comes down to the players dedication and hard work. If he wants to be a champion he has to drop mommy

Look at Sinner, he dropped Piatti in 2022 when he got trounced by Tsitsipas in AO 2022 and Zverev in 2021 USO. He wanted more. 2 years later, he’s a GS winner. And yes, before the 2 aforementioned losers.

Thing is I have no hope in Rune. Sinner always wants to improve, even with the big success he’s having now. Rune needs to make some drastic changes

Rune is lacking what Sinner has. Professionalism.

If he gets it, he has the talent to challenge Carlos and Jannik. Definitely.

 

[dking68]

Rune is lacking what Sinner has. Professionalism.

If he gets it, he has the talent to challenge Carlos and Jannik. Definitely.

His forehand is really bad. His mentality is poor. Anytime I look for a big champion the first thing is forehand, which he doesn’t have. Why do you think Murray fell behind Djokovic even though up until the end of 2010 they both had very similar careers? He even had a positive head to head against Federer and still ended up with only 3 slms

Forehand. Nole always has power. Murray didn’t.

 

[nolefam_2024]

His forehand is really bad. His mentality is poor. Anytime I look for a big champion the first thing is forehand, which he doesn’t have. Why do you think Murray fell behind Djokovic even though up until the end of 2010 they both had very similar careers?

Forehand. Nole always has power. Murray didn’t.

I don't think rune forehand is bad at all.

 

[dking68]

I don't think rune forehand is bad at all.

But it’s not a weapon, that’s the problem. It’s not something that he can use to get him match wins.

I’ve seen Sinner play like garbage against pusher players or big servers but his returns and forehands get him out of trouble

Alcaraz has played like trash sometimes but he always has the forehand and the drop shot. I cannot say the same for Rune. He doesn’t have that weapon to get him out of trouble

 

[dking68]

I don't think rune forehand is bad at all.

Sinner has played B level all of Miami but he’s probably going to beat Medvedev, Why? because his power is just out of the world

 

[nolefam_2024]

But it’s not a weapon, that’s the problem. It’s not something that he can use to get him match wins.

I’ve seen Sinner play like garbage against pusher players or big servers but his returns and forehands get him out of trouble

Alcaraz has played like trash sometimes but he always has the forehand and the drop shot. I cannot say the same for Rune. He doesn’t have that weapon to get him out of trouble

Rune is more balanced player than Sinner. I think he will definitely win slams but not until he makes big changes in his ethics.

Sinner has very consistent power game so he is definitely going to rule men's tennis for some time. But rune can stop him from time to time.

Maybe like you said Murray vs Djokovic.

 

[dking68]

Rune is more balanced player than Sinner. I think he will definitely win slams but not until he makes big changes in his ethics.

Sinner has very consistent power game so he is definitely going to rule men's tennis for some time. But rune can stop him from time to time.

Maybe like you said Murray vs Djokovic.

The thing is. Sinners B level is better than everyone except maybe Djokovic. He’s tired. He’s won his first GS and still is blasting away the field. Because of his power. Alcaraz was on his A game and lost a set 6-1 to a B minus level Sinner. That just shows you his level

Runes B level is not as high as Sinners. I’ve seen Rune play bad and he still loses. Sinner plays bad but he finds a way to win. He was in trouble against Griekspoor but then afterwards he was able to turn it around and breadstick him, something I’ve yet to see from Rune really, and I’ve been seeing patterns from this from Sinner from before the success he’s having now.

Lemme give you an example

He got bagelled by Medvedev in ATP finals in 2021. Yet after the bagel he was able to generate 2 match points - yes he eventually lost but that just shows that he was bound to be a champion

With Rune, even after he gets destroyed in the first set, he doesn’t know what to do. He ends up losing in straights. That’s not what great players do. They find a way to win when they’re down.

 

[dking68]

Honestly @nolefam_2024 on hard courts it’s not happening for him. And grass as well. You need to have power to win Australian and USO, which Rune does not have. French open is his best chance but even there you need great physical conditioning and mental strength. He’s another Tsitsipas/Zverev and even Zverev had way more talent and power.

 

[nolefam_2024]

The thing is. Sinners B level is better than everyone except maybe Djokovic. He’s tired. He’s won his first GS and still is blasting away the field. Because of his power. Alcaraz was on his A game and lost a set 6-1 to a B minus level Sinner. That just shows you his level

Runes B level is not as high as Sinners. I’ve seen Rune play bad and he still loses. Sinner plays bad but he finds a way to win. He was in trouble against Griekspoor but then afterwards he was able to turn it around and breadstick him, something I’ve yet to see from Rune really, and I’ve been seeing patterns from this from Sinner from before the success he’s having now.

Lemme give you an example

He got bagelled by Medvedev in ATP finals in 2021. Yet after the bagel he was able to generate 2 match points - yes he eventually lost but that just shows that he was bound to be a champion

With Rune, even after he gets destroyed in the first set, he doesn’t know what to do. He ends up losing in straights. That’s not what great players do. They find a way to win when they’re down.

Let's see. I don't think Sinner's a game is enough to beat every single player on every single surface just yet. The top 4 can beat each other.

Rune has long way to go but rune isn't going faa route just yet.

 

[Cabeza del Demonio]

Son, When Teeth fails you you will be on Sinner train with a new ID.

I'm sorry but "Teeth" as Alcaraz's nickname is too funny

 

[Third Serve]

Deadbeat Dad,
Alcaraz failed me repeatedly since I became a fan in October 2023.
I always wanted to support Alcaraz, from the first time I saw him play, because Alcaraz is one of the 3 most entertaining players of all-time, but his grunt prevented it (while Nadal has the best grunt EVER, Alcaraz has the very worst grunt EVER).
Sinner is one of the most boring players ever to win a slam - watching Sinner constantly would be a billion times worse than hearing the worst grunt of all-time - I hate Sinner and his game, forever.

womp womp

 

[MrFlip]

I like how at 20 years of age despite many of us seeing the crazy potential in him, that he is washed up and going down.

Remind me just how good Federer was at 20? He also looked like a huge underachiever early on, won his first big title when he was 20 and a few months away from turning 21.

Anyone with eyes and a history of watching tennis could see the potential in Roger.
Show me Rune's amazing forehands/backhands/volleys/slice
Rune does everything well but not enough to win anything except against tired older players.

Put a fresh Djokovic in that Paris final, Djokovic in 2