Is there any forgiving player's racquets?

[Overdrive]

(This is a re-post)

Hello, I was wondering whether is there are any players racquets that are more forgiving than the Wilson K Factor 6.1 Tour 95?

I'm asking because there's a girl on the tennis team that has been diagnosed with moderate-severe tendinitis on her arm which (she says) has kept her from hitting hard-fast strokes.

It baffles me that she would continue playing with a racquet that is overall not good for her arm. Her performance is shown. Her serves, groundstrokes~ everything is usually weak and can be returned as passing shots.

The only reason why she plays with the racquet because the #1 girl's father gave them to her as gifts (never give a tennis racquet to a person unless you have seen them play and know their desires for a racquet). :-|

Any racquets that are suggested here will be forwarded to her to try as a demo.

 

[enderx1x]

Try the EXO3 tour. Huge sweet spot for forgiveness, but also the most flexy and comfortable racket I have ever used.

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

(This is a re-post)

Hello, I was wondering whether is there are any players racquets that are more forgiving than the Wilson K Factor 6.1 Tour 95?

I'm asking because there's a girl on the tennis team that has been diagnosed with moderate-severe tendinitis on her arm which (she says) has kept her from hitting hard-fast strokes.

It baffles me that she would continue playing with a racquet that is overall not good for her arm. Her performance is shown. Her serves, groundstrokes~ everything is usually weak and can be returned as passing shots.

The only reason why she plays with the racquet because the #1 girl's father gave them to her as gifts (never give a tennis racquet to a person unless you have seen them play and know their desires for a racquet). :-|

Any racquets that are suggested here will be forwarded to her to try as a demo.

Head microgel radical mp, pacific XForce, rebel 95/98, and the pure storm gt are all fine rackets that are reasonably easy to use and are arm friendly

 

[Overdrive]

Head microgel radical mp, pacific XForce, rebel 95/98, and the pure storm gt are all fine rackets that are reasonably easy to use and are arm friendly

Are you sure about the PS GT?

Most Babolat frames are usually unforgiving either in the shoulder, arm, wrist, or all three.

 

[kazamzaa]

Pro kennex ki5 315.
There is a 295 version of it also. The number refers to the unstrtung weight.
Large sweet spot and very arm friendly due to the scientifically proven kinetic ionic tech.

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

Are you sure about the PS GT?

Most Babolat frames are usually unforgiving either in the shoulder, arm, wrist, or all three.

The pure storm is unlike any other babolat. It feels more like a radical and is fine on the arm. It's flex is like 63 which is fine.

 

[Orion3]

The Pure Storm LTD's are better than fine - speaking from experience.

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

The Pure Storm LTD's are better than fine - speaking from experience.

I've been told the limited is not forgiving. The pure storm gt is though

 

[Overdrive]

I've been told the limited is not forgiving. The pure storm gt is though

So is it the only 'forgiving' Babolat out there in the market?

I see alot of kids in tournaments use those... and cheap racquets from WM and other sporting goods stores..

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

So is it the only 'forgiving' Babolat out there in the market?

I see alot of kids in tournaments use those... and cheap racquets from WM and other sporting goods stores..

In my opinion, all babolats except the pslgt are user friendly. However, the pure storm is the only arm friendly babolat IMO. And I do not have arm problems so I'm not biased.

Do not buy rackets from Wally World. Get a good one on clearance here at TW.

 

[Overdrive]

In my opinion, all babolats except the pslgt are user friendly. However, the pure storm is the only arm friendly babolat IMO. And I do not have arm problems so I'm not biased.

Do not buy rackets from Wally World. Get a good one on clearance here at TW.

I don't have arm problems either, but I played with several Babolat frames and my arm and shoulder was sore from them.

WM? I don't buy racquets from there. However, I've actually seen decent players play with WM-esque racquets! :shock:
I only saw one guy play with Volkl racquets (Volkl Organix 8 ).
Besides, Boris Becker racquets aren't even in any tennis shops around here anyway and after all of the NYC and London Tour racquets are gone from TW and TE, that's it....

 

[mikeler]

The pure storm is unlike any other babolat. It feels more like a radical and is fine on the arm. It's flex is like 63 which is fine.

The Pure Storm GT is definitely stiffer than the non GT version. It is borderline for a person with arm issues.

 

[Overdrive]

The Pure Storm GT is definitely stiffer than the non GT version. It is borderline for a person with arm issues.

My views on all Babolat racquets still stands because of this.

One person's experience is different from another person.

If the Pure Storm GT is borderline for a player with an injury, then it's not worth $200. :-|

 

[TimothyO]

I've used the PSLGT, pre-GT Pure Storm, and now the PSGT.

PSLGT: extremely comfortable, extremely precise, extremely low powered, almost to a fault.

Pre-GT Pure Storm: very comfortable, pretty darn precise, low powered. Maybe a little too flexy?

Pure Storm GT: comfortable but needs extra mass to enhance comfort and stability, precision is on par with smaller heads/denser string beds that its 98" would suggest, power is low-ish, very string sensitive when it comes to control and power.

I love my PSGTs but can't recommend them or the Pre-GT Pure Storms in stock form. Stock they don't feel really comfortable. They need extra mass and then they feel sublime!

After many experiments using matched PSGTs strung the same I ended up with 1/4" lead tape at 3/9 extending most of the way along the sides and some 1/8" at 12 which varies in length to help match balance and SW...I also added additional lead in the butt. Result is very comfortable, precise, and extremely spin friendly. Specs are in my signature...I guess I've ended up with Pure Storm GT Tours that are a little lower in static weight.

I took a very systematic approach to these mods trying lead concentrated in the most popular spots (3/9, 2/10, etc.) and noticed the following which may or may not apply to other frames but definitely apply to the Pure Storm GT.

Lead Concentrated at 12:
the frame felt very harsh when using 1/4" lead tape. But taking the same or even greater mass and spreading it over twice the distance (same area obviously) by cutting the tape to 1/8" made the frame play extremely soft. I don't know why but that's how it felt.

Lead Concentrated at 2/10:
Here too things felt harsh but felt better when cutting the tape in half. A small amount here raised the SW quickly without adding enough stability for me.

Lead Concentrated at 3/9:
Here keeping the lead in 1/4" made the PSGT really stable and extremely spin friendly. Again, I don't know why since conventional wisdom is that a depolarized setup isn't a spin friendly but even my 11-year old noticed the extreme difference. As he stated, "It makes it super easy to hit with spin". Spreading the lead out here by cutting the tape reduced the benefit without adding anything such as additional comfort. So, I keep it at 1/4" width.

Lead Concentrated in the Butt:
I tried lead under my replacement grip about 2-4" up from the butt which is my favorite spot usually. But with the PSGT the result felt harsh and brassy. I packed all that lead under the butt cap (had to use a screwdriver to press it down) and the result was extreme comfort and a wonderful balance. Even with a SW of 330 the PSGTs feel whippy for easy access to spin.

My 11-year old loves these modded frames so much he's begging me to buy him one with his grip size. He's a new player and he manages to hit beautifully with them so I would call them very forgiving.

 

[Boredsurfer]

Pro Kennex Black Ace/Redondo.... arm friendly. Basically anything with an RA under 62 will be arm-friendly. However, there are a lot of variables - techniques, weight etc. etc.

 

[mikeler]

My views on all Babolat racquets still stands because of this.

One person's experience is different from another person.

If the Pure Storm GT is borderline for a player with an injury, then it's not worth $200. :-|

Oops I meant to write Pure Storm TOUR.

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

If you think the pure storm gt is stiff then you need to go to your nursery home. Lol

 

[mikeler]

If you think the pure storm gt is stiff then you need to go to your nursery home. Lol

Nursery home! Klassic. You won't be 20 years old forever.

 

[Relinquis]

have you tried the racquet finder tool on the tennis warehouse mains site? input specs very close to the racquet she currently uses but with lower range of flex.

what results do you get?

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

Nursery home! Klassic. You won't be 20 years old forever.

Just kiddin man

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Is there any track car that has a forgiving ride?

 

[marosmith]

Get a used Radical MP from TW and put a full bed of natural gut on it. Cheaper than a medical bill.

 

[Doubles]

The Radical is the most comfortable frame I've played that can be customized to a players frame. However, I also find the Prestige Pro to be rather comfortable with a low tension.

 

[slowfox]

Volkl C10 Pro.

 

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

meh..

I have turned to the dark sde, MUWAHAHAHAHAHAAA

forget your pesky 'player's frames', get yourself a Volkl X-7!

 

[Doubles]

meh..

I have turned to the dark sde, MUWAHAHAHAHAHAAA

forget your pesky 'player's frames', get yourself a Volkl X-7!

Seems like a rather drastic change to make from a player frame, no?

 

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

Seems like a rather drastic change to make from a player frame, no?

yep, sure is

although, on the face of it, 11.5 oz with a sw of 327 is hardly Big Bubba territory

 

[UCSF2012]

(This is a re-post)

Hello, I was wondering whether is there are any players racquets that are more forgiving than the Wilson K Factor 6.1 Tour 95?

I'm asking because there's a girl on the tennis team that has been diagnosed with moderate-severe tendinitis on her arm which (she says) has kept her from hitting hard-fast strokes.

It baffles me that she would continue playing with a racquet that is overall not good for her arm. Her performance is shown. Her serves, groundstrokes~ everything is usually weak and can be returned as passing shots.

The only reason why she plays with the racquet because the #1 girl's father gave them to her as gifts (never give a tennis racquet to a person unless you have seen them play and know their desires for a racquet). :-|

Any racquets that are suggested here will be forwarded to her to try as a demo.

No KFactor!!! Total arm killer. Get her to move on to the BLX series. The Tour 95 is a very popular rack with the competitive girls"

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_BLX_Tour/descpageRCWILSON-WTB.html

 

[Overdrive]

No KFactor!!! Total arm killer. Get her to move on to the BLX series. The Tour 95 is a very popular rack with the competitive girls"

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_BLX_Tour/descpageRCWILSON-WTB.html

Yeah, and coach never tells her about it.

I feel if I tell her, she'll start whining and say that she doesn't need to.

She has money (working and such), but would probably be cheap on getting a new racquet...

What? I never seen any girl play with this. I only see Babolat racquets and a ONE pink BLX this girl played with.
Also, there were cheap WM/ Sporting Goods racquets..

 

[Hi I'm Ray]

(This is a re-post)

Hello, I was wondering whether is there are any players racquets that are more forgiving than the Wilson K Factor 6.1 Tour 95?

I'm asking because there's a girl on the tennis team that has been diagnosed with moderate-severe tendinitis on her arm which (she says) has kept her from hitting hard-fast strokes.

It baffles me that she would continue playing with a racquet that is overall not good for her arm. Her performance is shown. Her serves, groundstrokes~ everything is usually weak and can be returned as passing shots.

The only reason why she plays with the racquet because the #1 girl's father gave them to her as gifts (never give a tennis racquet to a person unless you have seen them play and know their desires for a racquet). :-|

Any racquets that are suggested here will be forwarded to her to try as a demo.

Is the question really about finding a "forgiving" frame or more about an arm friendly frame?

 

[NLBwell]

K Factor 6.1 Tour 95 is one of the harshest rackets around. Most anything except some of the stiff Babolats would be better.

 

[Overdrive]

Is the question really about finding a "forgiving" frame or more about an arm friendly frame?

I may have asked the question wrong, but you are correct.

 

[Overdrive]

K Factor 6.1 Tour 95 is one of the harshest rackets around. Most anything except some of the stiff Babolats would be better.

One of the harshest racquets around?

Wow, I'm surprised by that assertion.

 

[danotje]

Pro Kennex 5G. Cheap and arm friendly. I have a pair of 7Gs after some arm issues, and I run them with full poly and zero arm pain. I also got a Flexbar and loosened my grip substantially. All this has really helped a lot.

 

[Overdrive]

Pro Kennex 5G. Cheap and arm friendly. I have a pair of 7Gs after some arm issues, and I run them with full poly and zero arm pain. I also got a Flexbar and loosened my grip substantially. All this has really helped a lot.

A Full poly?

It is low tension correct?

 

[cork_screw]

Pro Kennex Redondo.

 

[Overdrive]

Pro Kennex Redondo.

is there a Picture?

 

[UCSF2012]

What? I never seen any girl play with this. I only see Babolat racquets and a ONE pink BLX this girl played with.

It's the update to the former Justine Henin racket. Nishikori also once used this series. It's power with stability.

But honestly, if she wants to continue using her racket, it's her choice. All she really needs are softer strings, and all will be well again. She could also just update to the BLX or Amplifeel version of the 6.1 95. Same racket, easier on the arm than the K Factor.

 

[Ronaldo]

If you think the pure storm gt is stiff then you need to go to your nursery home. Lol

Suppose the Nursery Home resident tennis players only use Organix racquets, eh? No Granny sticks allowed

 

[Overdrive]

It's the update to the former Justine Henin racket. Nishikori also once used this series. It's power with stability.

But honestly, if she wants to continue using her racket, it's her choice. All she really needs are softer strings, and all will be well again. She could also just update to the BLX or Amplifeel version of the 6.1 95. Same racket, easier on the arm than the K Factor.

Yeah, she can continue using the K Factor; but she'l continue to play with making weaker shots and not fully play to the best of her ability.

Softer strings? Like a low-tension co-poly?

 

[Overdrive]

Suppose the Nursery Home resident tennis players only use Organix racquets, eh? No Granny sticks allowed

I wish Volkl made those colorful Organix sticks heavier.. :|

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

I wish Volkl made those colorful Organix sticks heavier.. :|

Lead.............

 

[UCSF2012]

Yeah, she can continue using the K Factor; but she'l continue to play with making weaker shots and not fully play to the best of her ability.

Softer strings? Like a low-tension co-poly?

You can't be a doctor to someone who doesn't want to see a doctor. She may not agree she needs a new racket, and that's completely her choice. Not your place to force her to do anything. If she has moderate to severe tendonitis, she would not be playing tennis right now, because it'd hurt too much with any racket out there.

The K95 isn't a weak racket. It's stiff, so I wouldn't put ALU on it. SPPP worked just fine for me years back without arm problems. Any multi would work too.

 

[Timbo's hopeless slice]

I wish Volkl made those colorful Organix sticks heavier.. :|

how heavy do you want? 11.5 oz is pretty hefty..

 

[Harry_Wild]

You should tell her to take a couple of lesson to work on proper technique to hit her groundstrokes. You do not see the touring pros have elbow tendinitis or Tennis Elbow?

See the following link: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=249232

 

[marosmith]

You should tell her to take a couple of lesson to work on proper technique to hit her groundstrokes. You do not see the touring pros have elbow tendinitis or Tennis Elbow?

See the following link: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=249232

Pros do get tennis elbow among other various upper extremity injuries.

 

[Harry_Wild]

Is there any track car that has a forgiving ride?

Camaro ZL1 and Corvette ZR1 set Magnetic Ride Control set to street and soft or touring.

 

[Overdrive]

how heavy do you want? 11.5 oz is pretty hefty..

I meant the Volkl Organix 5...