Isnt it great to be Novak fan nowadays?

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Nowadays?

Take it from someone who was cheering him on here before his 2011 season....it was always great to be a Novak fan, and has nothing to do with destroying records or being GOAT. That's not why myself and many others are his fans....many of us are his fans because he is just that darn good to watch. The best player to watch for me since Pete, no question. Him wrecking shop and owning the numbers is just a bonus.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Nowadays?

Take it from someone who was cheering him on here before his 2011 season....it was always great to be a Novak fan, and has nothing to do with destroying records or being GOAT. That's not why myself and many others are his fans....many of us are his fans because he is just that darn good to watch. The best player to watch for me since Pete, no question. Him wrecking shop and owning the numbers is just a bonus.
Yes. He is the reason I started watching tennis and I had no idea about records and stuff.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Nowadays?

Take it from someone who was cheering him on here before his 2011 season....it was always great to be a Novak fan, and has nothing to do with destroying records or being GOAT. That's not why myself and many others are his fans....many of us are his fans because he is just that darn good to watch. The best player to watch for me since Pete, no question. Him wrecking shop and owning the numbers is just a bonus.
Well, that's extremely rare here. Forget 2011, seems like we have lots of "fans" here who never watched before around 2018.
 

Genie Of the Bank

Hall of Fame
That picture is velcro'd on the shirt, right? ;)
Maybe, I use it as an example of historic success . :)

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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Novak won EVERYTHING important in tennis, multiple times. He is undisputed GOAT...
In the same time, he is still no1 on the ATP list and the best plazer on tour. He is among the favorites at every tournament he plays.

His fan can be relaxed and only enjoy his tennis without any stress of will he do this or that.
On the other hand he is still competitive everywhere, so we can enjoy winning too.
I think his fans really deserved this after all what happened in the past.

Not quite "everything" yet as you very well know but, yes, it must indeed be fun to be a fan! :cool:
 

Hypo Crisis

Professional
What jackpot have you hit by supporting Djokovic ?

He makes millions of dollars every year playing, the records and achievements are his and his only..... what jackpot did you hit/get ?

I would say nothing, infact all these hours wasted defending Djokovic could have been utilized for personal growth in life, no ?
Not feeling wasted case like Fedals here, if you take away all that unnecessary philosophy you started with
 

Federev

Legend
Novak won EVERYTHING important in tennis, multiple times. He is undisputed GOAT...
In the same time, he is still no1 on the ATP list and the best plazer on tour. He is among the favorites at every tournament he plays.

His fan can be relaxed and only enjoy his tennis without any stress of will he do this or that.
On the other hand he is still competitive everywhere, so we can enjoy winning too.
I think his fans really deserved this after all what happened in the past.

Can we just officially change the whole "General Pro Player Discussion" forum to "Djokovic News" and be done with the whole thing?

I mean - if ever there was a "Djokovic News" post - it would be this one.

And yet, this thread now seems wholly appropriate for GPPD.

It is what it is.... let's just admit it and enjoy the ride!!

"Talk Djokovic Wharehouse"!!

I'm not even butt-hurt; to the victor go the spoils.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Can we just officially change the whole "General Pro Player Discussion" forum to "Djokovic News" and be done with the whole thing?

I mean - if ever there was a "Djokovic News" post - it would be this one.

And yet, this thread now seems wholly appropriate for GPPD.

It is what it is.... let's just admit it and enjoy the ride!!

"Talk Djokovic Wharehouse"!!

I'm not even butt-hurt; to the victor go the spoils.
You know me. I regularly post such stuff to only Djokovic news. But unfortunately our fandom spams the general board. It has been happening too often since 2021 if you ask me even good fans started doing this.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Can we just officially change the whole "General Pro Player Discussion" forum to "Djokovic News" and be done with the whole thing?

I mean - if ever there was a "Djokovic News" post - it would be this one.

And yet, this thread now seems wholly appropriate for GPPD.

It is what it is.... let's just admit it and enjoy the ride!!

"Talk Djokovic Wharehouse"!!

I'm not even butt-hurt; to the victor go the spoils.

Don't forget Kyrgios. It's practically de rigeur to start a thread about him every other week!
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Novak won EVERYTHING important in tennis, multiple times. He is undisputed GOAT...
In the same time, he is still no1 on the ATP list and the best plazer on tour. He is among the favorites at every tournament he plays.

His fan can be relaxed and only enjoy his tennis without any stress of will he do this or that.
On the other hand he is still competitive everywhere, so we can enjoy winning too.
I think his fans really deserved this after all what happened in the past.
What we can say is this is the highest point any tennis player would have reached. Similar to Sampras in 2000. But he didn't have RG.

Federer in 2018 but he lost to 2 rivals badly

And now Nole in 2023.

Lendl Rafa Connors all never had such an argument ever.

Without rankings hold I know Nole's record are going to stay here for at least 10 years. He is 22 slams and 35 masters ahead of Carlos, his closest rival. He is also close to 400 weeks ahead of Carlos in the ranking.
 

pirhaksar

Professional
Nowadays?

Take it from someone who was cheering him on here before his 2011 season....it was always great to be a Novak fan, and has nothing to do with destroying records or being GOAT. That's not why myself and many others are his fans....many of us are his fans because he is just that darn good to watch. The best player to watch for me since Pete, no question. Him wrecking shop and owning the numbers is just a bonus.
Me since 2014/2015 and yes Pete before that!
 

soldat

Rookie
It’s always been great to be a Djokovic fan. Djokovic has more sportsmanship, is more inspiring, is funnier, and you can see the growth he’s had over the last 20 years, from being the newcomer to eventually defeating his rivals and becoming the greatest tennis player in history.

No other player comes close in terms of the adversity Djokovic has had to face, or what he has achieved, in 100 years people won’t know who Nadal or Federer are, but they’ll still talk about Djokovic.
 
Novak won EVERYTHING important in tennis, multiple times. He is undisputed GOAT...
In the same time, he is still no1 on the ATP list and the best plazer on tour. He is among the favorites at every tournament he plays.

His fan can be relaxed and only enjoy his tennis without any stress of will he do this or that.
On the other hand he is still competitive everywhere, so we can enjoy winning too.
I think his fans really deserved this after all what happened in the past.
To be fair, the real price is having something to open the TV for and get emotionally involved into.

Him lifting trophies and making a mockery out of Next Gen and showing how at 36 he is still the boss is far more valuable than any GOAT debate or historical significance of his wins.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Djoker fans on TTW are probably the most insufferable fans nowadays, just like Rafans were the most insufferable fans after AO 22. There was also a time when Rog fanbase was the worst one. It's always depended on which Big 3 was on top, as TTW fans tend to be ungracious winners.
Pretty much. Rafans had the least time at the top though! ;)
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Ultimately the best part of being a Djokovic fan is still being able to watch him play.

I've probably never cared more about basketball than now with LeBron, bc I know he will retire very shortly and that my favorite athlete ever will be gone for good.

Soon Nadal and Djokovic will join Federer as a thing of the past, a memory and a throwback to reminiscing on better days.

Enjoy the feeling that watching live sports gives you. You can't replicate the nerves on the key moments of a match, the draw analysis, the sense of anticipation all day as you wait, the commentary and the build-up, the betting odds, the clearing your schedule to watch it. I can go watch Wimbledon 2018 over and over again but it'll never feel the way it did sitting down over two days in summer 2018. That is the gift of being a Novak fan, I think. gloating and online arguing will always be there, you can do it in perpetuity - but the emotions within you to care about a player, that's the special part.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Ultimately the best part of being a Djokovic fan is still being able to watch him play.

I've probably never cared more about basketball than now with LeBron, bc I know he will retire very shortly and that my favorite athlete ever will be gone for good.

Soon Nadal and Djokovic will join Federer as a thing of the past, a memory and a throwback to reminiscing on better days.

Enjoy the feeling that watching live sports gives you. You can't replicate the nerves on the key moments of a match, the draw analysis, the sense of anticipation all day as you wait, the commentary and the build-up, the betting odds, the clearing your schedule to watch it. I can go watch Wimbledon 2018 over and over again but it'll never feel the way it did sitting down over two days in summer 2018. That is the gift of being a Novak fan, I think. gloating and online arguing will always be there, you can do it in perpetuity - but the emotions within you to care about a player, that's the special part.
Exactly why we are so much more happy than Nadal fans.

Even being 11 months younger and missing around a year due to covid bans, Djokovic now has more titles and more matches played more matches won than Nadal.

We are able to watch him play every year. And we don't need to be restricted to April to June window to see highlights of our guy. He is there constantly every week of the calendar.


Djokovic has been number 1 seed for 32 slams now. Will be 33 after AO. Nadal only 16 times, half of him. Fed played as seed 1 24 times.

Whenever Djokovic enters the court people expect him to win, doesn't matter the surface or opponent. He was candidate top 2 candidate to win every slam since maybe 2011, except for 6 slams between RG 2017 to Wimby 2018. That's absurd. It's around 40 or so slams where we knew he would be there in the mix. And he was in the final round 33 times post 2011.


Nadal fans talk about epic this and epic that. But their guy can't get himself fit enough to play many tournaments. That's why Nole has double the final round appearances at USO than Nadal. He will have double at AO and Wimby soon. Nadal does have double the finals at RG but who knows. Nole is not going anywhere anytime soon.

It's just the volume is so huge and Nole gave us so many opportunities to be engaged in the sport. It rivals Federer and actually he is now surpassing fed himself.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
A lot of Nadal and Federer fans are not relaxed at all, lol. Lots of them are bitter and salty and some even stopped watching tennis completely when they realized Djokovic would smash every records. You can't speak for everyone. Great for you if you're relaxed and I am sure many other Federer or Nadal fans think like you. But when you read some comments on Youtube or Twitter you easily see how most of them feel about this situation. They are a lot of adjectives but relaxed isn't one of them.



Yes, great. Tennis is statistically the 2nd (3rd at best) most popular/watched/practiced sports worldwide. Arguably thr most popular individual sport. If you support the Goat of this sport, you definitely picked the right guy and hit the jackpot. Any true fan of this sport arguing about the name of the Goat right now is absolutely ridiculing himself, that's the best part. Whatever they say, you can easily contradict them with statistics and leave them speechless. Any attempt to give Federer or Nadal the Goat status can be dismissed and destroyed in a nanosecond in 2023. Great times. :D
"Fed and Nadal fans are completely relaxed" - said as Fed and Nadal fans constantly attack not just Djokovic but also his fans
 
A

ALCARAZWON

Guest
I pity Djokovic's fans the most, because they think he will finish his career with more slam titles than Nadal.
They thought injuries would prevent Nadal from winning slams in 2024 and 2025....
Turns out Nadal is healthier now than he was in 2022 (when he won 2 slams and went 5-0 at Wimbledon).
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
I pity Djokovic's fans the most, because they think he will finish his career with more slam titles than Nadal.
They thought injuries would prevent Nadal from winning slams in 2024 and 2025....
He Nadal fan stop trolling. Nadal Is finished. He can't overtake Nole. He said so. Conceded like al gore. Now he can't go back like al gore.
 
It’s always been great to be a Djokovic fan. Djokovic has more sportsmanship, is more inspiring, is funnier, and you can see the growth he’s had over the last 20 years, from being the newcomer to eventually defeating his rivals and becoming the greatest tennis player in history.

No other player comes close in terms of the adversity Djokovic has had to face, or what he has achieved, in 100 years people won’t know who Nadal or Federer are, but they’ll still talk about Djokovic.
Yes those future ATGs chasing him have provided such adversity, new user! The whatsup group have rallied the troops!
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Link to these posts please. Thanks in advance.

And you literally said you couldn't be relaxed because Nadal isn't actually retired yet lol

Big difference between unrelaxed and cautious. I can be wise and secure at the same time. Not all Djokovic fans are cocky. I think it's risky to claim Nadal is done for good and that the slam race is definitely over. In that way, I'm not 100% relaxed about the final result, maybe you misunderstood. No one can predict the future with certainty. But as a fan, I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't mind if he is less popular than Fedal, tennis has never been a popularity contest, and who (in the big-3) had more fans will be completely irrelevant and forgotten by future generations. Only thing that matters is the numbers. I care that he destroyed the most important records and that he'll be remembered as the greatest player of all time, in the most watched indivudual sport. I have no reason to be unrelaxed about that.... I had 3 options, I chose to root for 1 of these 3 players and the one I chose had a more successful career. That's very satisfying and in that regard, I agree with the OP... it's always great to be a fan of the greatest of the greatest...

I saw this poll several weeks ago, I didn't even bother to vote for the reason I stated.... I don't have the time or energy to retrieve the links. Do it yourself if you have time to waste. I just don't get why some Djokovic detractors are gloating about these things. There was an online, robotized poll and he didn't win it, BIG DEAL. Does anyone think his fans won't sleep well because of this?
 

The Guru

Legend
Ultimately the best part of being a Djokovic fan is still being able to watch him play.

I've probably never cared more about basketball than now with LeBron, bc I know he will retire very shortly and that my favorite athlete ever will be gone for good.

Soon Nadal and Djokovic will join Federer as a thing of the past, a memory and a throwback to reminiscing on better days.

Enjoy the feeling that watching live sports gives you. You can't replicate the nerves on the key moments of a match, the draw analysis, the sense of anticipation all day as you wait, the commentary and the build-up, the betting odds, the clearing your schedule to watch it. I can go watch Wimbledon 2018 over and over again but it'll never feel the way it did sitting down over two days in summer 2018. That is the gift of being a Novak fan, I think. gloating and online arguing will always be there, you can do it in perpetuity - but the emotions within you to care about a player, that's the special part.
I recently rewatched Peyton Manning's retirement speech and I wasn't even a Peyton fan but that stuff is really moving. Something about seeing someone get absolutely everything out of their life's purpose and getting to be a part of that by watching it unfold is really special. It will be a very sad day when Rafa and Novak and even Stan and Murray finally hang it up. We never truly appreciate what these athletes give to us until they're washed up.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Big difference between unrelaxed and cautious. I can be wise and secure at the same time. Not all Djokovic fans are cocky. I think it's risky to claim Nadal is done for good and that the slam race is definitely over. In that way, I'm not 100% relaxed about the final result, maybe you misunderstood. No one can predict the future with certainty. But as a fan, I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't mind if he is less popular than Fedal, tennis has never been a popularity contest, and who (in the big-3) had more fans will be completely irrelevant and forgotten by future generations. Only thing that matters is the numbers. I care that he destroyed the most important records and that he'll be remembered as the greatest player of all time, in the most watched indivudual sport. I have no reason to be unrelaxed about that.... I had 3 options, I chose to root for 1 of these 3 players and the one I chose had a more successful career. That's very satisfying and in that regard, I agree with the OP... it's always great to be a fan of the greatest of the greatest...

I saw this poll several weeks ago, I didn't even bother to vote for the reason I stated.... I don't have the time or energy to retrieve the links. Do it yourself if you have time to waste. I just don't get why some Djokovic detractors are gloating about these things. There was an online, robotized poll and he didn't win it, BIG DEAL. Does anyone think his fans won't sleep well because of this?
Why are you not relaxed. There is nothing Nadal can do now. Believe in our GOAT. Chance is more of Nole winning RG 2024 than Nadal winning any slam right now.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
But then what is the point of calling him the GOAT once if these threads don't exist.
Your inner satisfaction of knowing that your truth is undisputed. You don't need to go around saying that the Earth rotates around the Sun, do you?
And my relief of not having to read such boring threads anymore.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
As a Fedfan myself I feel relaxed because at last I can enjoy rewinds of Roger's tennis without desperately desiring him to be something he never was - the greatest of all time.
 
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nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Your inner satisfaction of knowing that your truth is undisputed. You don't need to go around saying that the Earth rotates around the Sun, do you?
And my relief of not having to read such boring threads anymore.
No if you keep the truth to yourself it won't be undisputed. Otherwise we go into the your truth vs my truth world.

We need to vocalize our beliefs like Nole always does. He says he is the best and we say he is the best as well.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
No if you keep the truth to yourself it won't be undisputed. Otherwise we go into the your truth vs my truth world.

We need to vocalize our beliefs like Nole always does. He says he is the best and we say he is the best as well.
Not quite.
I think if that was the case, you need to repeat the tenets of your beliefs each day to yourself, and need constant external confirmation, because you are not so sure of them.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Not quite.
I think if that was the case, you need to repeat the tenets of your beliefs each day to yourself because you are not so sure of them.
This is not about my belief. I will put my belief out and others will do theirs as well.

Strength invites challenge.

Once all was said and done, the majority, like 90% of people agreed that Nole is the greatest ever on tennis court. I don't need to vocalize that anymore but we can relish in seeing how much better he is vs his competitiors.
 
In 2011/2012 combined he faced 16 top 5 players.

Federer in 4 years from 2004 to 2007 got to face 18 guys.

Our guy is forged by fire early on. While Federer got early lead.

Both played world number 1 10 times in grand slam. But Nole won 4 times (winning slam each time) while fed won once ( winning that slam)

The best thing about Nole story is how the same detractors who said he is no good, while seeing him go through really tough era, are now moaning and crying about weak era.

While fed could never really dominate Nadal, djokovic became a Nadal destroyer so much that we rarely saw Rafole matches outside clay now.
Actually Federer solved Nadal late when he improved backhand 6-0 last six hard and grass matches
 

Razer

Legend
Not feeling wasted case like Fedals here, if you take away all that unnecessary philosophy you started with

It is not unnecessary philosophy, feeling proud on a stranger's achievements to this extent that daily we have to defend him is fruitless activity.

At least Ivanisevic is praising Nole for money, what are we defending him for in our spare time? For what? You call yourself Nole-fam ... what is this fam ? .... His only family is his wife, kids, father, mother, siblings and maybe some direct relatives..... everybody else is just a fam in theory, not in practicality. This is applicable for Fedals too if they are defending fedal daily.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
"Fed and Nadal fans are completely relaxed" - said as Fed and Nadal fans constantly attack not just Djokovic but also his fans

And his opponents whenever losing, and recently the generations...
As if Fedal are doing much better than them against Nole after 2011.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Nowadays? It was great when he had 2 or 3 Slams. I didn't know I had picked the right horse who could ultimately win the race. I just liked the way he played more than everybody else. The crazy achievements are just a lot of icing on the cake.
 

Hypo Crisis

Professional
It is not unnecessary philosophy, feeling proud on a stranger's achievements to this extent that daily we have to defend him is fruitless activity.

At least Ivanisevic is praising Nole for money, what are we defending him for in our spare time? For what? You call yourself Nole-fam ... what is this fam ? .... His only family is his wife, kids, father, mother, siblings and maybe some direct relatives..... everybody else is just a fam in theory, not in practicality. This is applicable for Fedals too if they are defending fedal daily.
As I said already, you are spewing all too much unnecessary philosophy. But here you are if you are asking for clarification:

- I am proud for believing in my guts and senses that he is the one, that they didn't fail me, that I can perfectly rely on my reasoning and eyesight.
- I am proud for being his countryman, although rich in athlete success, one like this maybe never happened to our nation or never will again.
- I am proud to be Nolefam in that sense of knowing what Nolefam was going through rooting for this particular player. In an era of smug Fedals, we have gone through thick and thin being laughed and ridiculed, looked upon for so many years. I am proud to see us stand as winners on top of their empty words and phrases.
- I am proud of finding and rooting for one genuine man, who wasn't corrupted by the system, who was hunted down bcs he didn't fit in bigger picture of establishment that was ruling this sport for so long. Proud of rooting for a man that defied the odds and beat the system by their own rules on their ground.

It was never about the money, and I know you can't ever grasp that feeling of fulfillment.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
And his opponents whenever losing, and recently the generations...
As if Fedal are doing much better than them against Nole after 2011.
Exactly. Fedal only faced early version of Federer when they won a ton of matches. Once he hit his peak in 2011, he took care of all the players. Fedfans try to portray his competition between 2003 to 2009 would somehow stop this Nole when they themselves couldn't. Especially fedfans. Nole beat him 4 times in a row at AO.


Rafa stopped Nole 2 times in USopen. That is big. But Nole won 10 AO where Rafa was just a spectator in all but 1. If he was then so will be the rest of the tour. Murray at least tried. 5 times. He gave Nole tougher fight than Roger ever did and more consistently than Nadal.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Big difference between unrelaxed and cautious. I can be wise and secure at the same time. Not all Djokovic fans are cocky. I think it's risky to claim Nadal is done for good and that the slam race is definitely over. In that way, I'm not 100% relaxed about the final result, maybe you misunderstood. No one can predict the future with certainty. But as a fan, I'm perfectly relaxed. I don't mind if he is less popular than Fedal, tennis has never been a popularity contest, and who (in the big-3) had more fans will be completely irrelevant and forgotten by future generations. Only thing that matters is the numbers. I care that he destroyed the most important records and that he'll be remembered as the greatest player of all time, in the most watched indivudual sport. I have no reason to be unrelaxed about that.... I had 3 options, I chose to root for 1 of these 3 players and the one I chose had a more successful career. That's very satisfying and in that regard, I agree with the OP... it's always great to be a fan of the greatest of the greatest...

I saw this poll several weeks ago, I didn't even bother to vote for the reason I stated.... I don't have the time or energy to retrieve the links. Do it yourself if you have time to waste. I just don't get why some Djokovic detractors are gloating about these things. There was an online, robotized poll and he didn't win it, BIG DEAL. Does anyone think his fans won't sleep well because of this?

Not seeing those tweets. Too bad.
 

Razer

Legend
As I said already, you are spewing all too much unnecessary philosophy. But here you are if you are asking for clarification:

- I am proud for believing in my guts and senses that he is the one, that they didn't fail me, that I can perfectly rely on my reasoning and eyesight.
- I am proud for being his countryman, although rich in athlete success, one like this maybe never happened to our nation or never will again.
- I am proud to be Nolefam in that sense of knowing what Nolefam was going through rooting for this particular player. In an era of smug Fedals, we have gone through thick and thin being laughed and ridiculed, looked upon for so many years. I am proud to see us stand as winners on top of their empty words and phrases.
- I am proud of finding and rooting for one genuine man, who wasn't corrupted by the system, who was hunted down bcs he didn't fit in bigger picture of establishment that was ruling this sport for so long. Proud of rooting for a man that defied the odds and beat the system by their own rules on their ground.

It was never about the money, and I know you can't ever grasp that feeling of fulfillment.

01. Proud for being his countryman? He stays in Monaco to avoid taxes, lets not forget that.
02. Proud for believing in your guts that he would succeed? Ok but that is still still HIS SUCCESS, no? I can understand Srdjan saying this because Srdjan did create Djokovic but we viewers, did we create him? Nope, we were just a witness to his journey and witness should not chest-thump so much.
03. Proud because people were laughing at you when you called him GOAT but now they are crying ? Maybe nobody was ridiculing you, they were just disagreeing with you and you might have felt inferior at that time but now you are feeling superior ? So thats on you, the so called suffering which you got at the hands of Fedals was your own imagination and now you are saying they are crying, that too is your imagination, many of them have moved on though some of them might be sulking but they are no different from what you were long ago, no?
04. Proud of beating the system that tried to screw him? How? It is his mistake that he made the Instagram post and caused anger in a country, of course he got away with it but that is because covid got over and the same system decides to allow him to play instead of banning him like they did to Russian/Belarussians, had that pandemic been there today then Novak would have been stuck at 21 or 22 slams. So it is a matter of good luck, not beating the system.

Celebrate a player during his win but not to this extent that you have to gloryhunt and try to show like you won and others lost. Nobody but the player wins or loses, not the audience, stop trying to feel superior for no reason.
 
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