Karlovic blew the past record of 55 aces, to 78 aces!

[NamRanger]

There is more to serving to than just raw power. Federer still probably has one of the best serves in the game. He uses it not only to hit clean winners (aces) but to set himself up as a first strike weapon to win points. At the end of the day it is not about the number of aces you hit but the points you win on your serve. Though in saying all this... he certainly did not have a stellar day in the US Open finals.

But you do have to admire without his best stuff he was still able to push it to the limit.

I can name 5 players every year from 2003-2009 who have better serves than Federer.

 

[NamRanger]

Karlovic has the bigger serve, but IMO not the better service. Bigger doesn't always mean better. Ask Gonzo's forehand.

Karlovic's serve is statistically superior in every way. Even with his skewed stats he's STILL a superior server than Federer. We have argued this over 1 thousand pages; yet you continue to say Federer has one of the best serves in history (which is simply not true).

 

[P_Agony]

Karlovic's serve is statistically superior in every way. Even with his skewed stats he's STILL a superior server than Federer. We have argued this over 1 thousand pages; yet you continue to say Federer has one of the best serves in history (which is simply not true).

I continue to say that because it's my opinion. The fact with have argued about it a few times does not mean I have to bow down and agree to anything you say. I respect your opinion, I even understand it, but I disagree with it. Let it go already!

 

[RCizzle65]

Federer is my favorite player, but how someone can say he has a better serve than Karlovic, I don't know how...if your going to argue variety, you don't exactly need a slice serve when you can bomb it at that same angle someone a foot shorter than you would slice it as...and you won't get 78 aces by not having good placement either.

 

[EtePras]

i wonder if he will ever break his own record of 78, its crazy because earlier this year he went aceless for the first time in his career against gael monfils

Is that even possible? I remember Ljubicic had 0 aces in a match he played against Karlovic, but for Karlovic to have no aces is ridiculous.

 

[The-Champ]

Imagine Federer with his own serve and Karlovic' ground game.


Now imagine Karlovic with federer's ground game. He would be an unstoppable force of Nature.

 

[rod99]

Imagine Federer with his own serve and Karlovic' ground game.


Now imagine Karlovic with federer's ground game. He would be an unstoppable force of Nature.

that is what i've been preaching to this guy for weeks. he doesn't get it.

simply put: federer would win more matches if he kept his own game but had karlovic's serve. that is how you tell if you're a better server. very simple.

 

[Chadwixx]

I think they are meaning service game more so than the actual serve. Feds service game appears (as well as % held) up there with karlovic because he backs it up with a ton of other weapons.

Is there a stat to see how many points are won with only the first serve? I see points won off the first serve but that would include the whole point.

Id say karlovic wins more points strictly off his serve than anyone in the history of the sport. Unreturnable, aces and missed returns.

 

[EtePras]

Karlovic has the bigger serve, but IMO not the better service. Bigger doesn't always mean better. Ask Gonzo's forehand.

ROTFLMAO

Even Nadal has a better serve than Federer, see AO final.

 

[Leelord337]

What's more impressive is that he still managed to lose. I mean, to win 3 sets worth of points without even having to hit a rally shot, and then lose 3 sets......incredible. How bad must the rest of his game be to accomplish that?

it was a 5 hour 59 min match, stepanek fought of 4 match pts too.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/09/Davis-Cup-SF-Stepanek-Defies-78-Aces.aspx

 

[drive]

78 is more or less the number of aces that Nadal gets in the whole season.

 

[Chadwixx]

Imagine Federer with his own serve and Karlovic' ground game.


Now imagine Karlovic with federer's ground game. He would be an unstoppable force of Nature.

Santoro with karlovics serve would beat karlovic with feds ground game. No one would beat my brute.

 

[Leelord337]

i wonder what the total number of winners was for the match, already 78 aces (winners)...

 

[tata]

and he still lost that match lol

 

[ubermeyer]

wth 78 aces on clay!!!

I think Karlovic is the only player who consistently improves with age. This is unfortunate for him because had he been in his prime oh, 10 or 15 or so years ago, he would have been a real force especially on 90's grass courts. However, Karlovic has been improving with age, mainly because his serve has been improving, since that's what he pretty much spends his life practicing.

 

[ubermeyer]

Karlovic has the bigger serve, but IMO not the better service. Bigger doesn't always mean better. Ask Gonzo's forehand.

fail. karlovic's serve is easily superior to fed's.

and i'm a huge federer fan. in 1st serves however, bigger IS better, since you get another.

federer's 2nd serve is possibly better than karlovic's 2nd serve. Isner's 2nd is much better than karlovic's as well.

 

[SuperFly]

Dr Ivo is simply amazing. And even better, he still lost the match.:-?

Ya, if he had someone to train with in Croatia at the time, he probably would have won a couple Wimbledons in a row. All he really needs is a return game that can get him 1 break in each set and he would be reeling in titles like crazy.

 

[edmondsm]

Ya, if he had someone to train with in Croatia at the time, he probably would have won a couple Wimbledons in a row. All he really needs is a return game that can get him 1 break in each set and he would be reeling in titles like crazy.

No way. Look at the guys who are going deep at Wimbledon these days. Fed, Nadal, Roddick, Murray.....Roddick is the only one who you could say with a game that solely revolves around the serve. The Goran's of the world don't win slams anymore, period. Winning slams, especially Wimbledon, is about movement and ground strokes. If it was still about huge serves and poaching that one break then Nadal wouldn't ever make the 2nd week.

 

[egn]

Karlovic will eventually maybe get to the point where he wins every single one of his serve points and still loses.

 

[ubermeyer]

Karlovic will eventually maybe get to the point where he wins every single one of his serve points and still loses.

That is impossible... even if he lost every single one of his return points, the tiebreaks would be infinitely long... if he actually won every single serve point, he would eventually get lucky and win a point off the other guy's serve.

 

[NamRanger]

I continue to say that because it's my opinion. The fact with have argued about it a few times does not mean I have to bow down and agree to anything you say. I respect your opinion, I even understand it, but I disagree with it. Let it go already!

My opinion is that Federer is secretly a closet alien from outer space who abducts innocent people at night. Therefore you must respect it. This is a rough equivalent to what you are saying.