Let's Clear Up Some Misconceptions

フェデラー

Hall of Fame
Ok here, these are some things that have really been annoying me lately so I wanted to put this out here.

1) It is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Federer to lose the no.1 Ranking except/until the US Open.

This was stated multiple times on the ATP website by the points experts. Here are the Points that the top 3 are defending.


~Total Points~ (Toronto)(Cincinnati)(Olympics)(US Open)
1) Federer 11,200 10 150 200 2000
2) Nadal 10735* 1000 450 800 900
3) Murray 9,700 450 1000 10 1400

*Note* that Nadal has since lost 1000 points after not being able to defend Hamburg.

So Nadal has 2350 points to defend (w/o) Olympics
Murray has 2850 points to defend (w/o) Olympics
And Finally Federer has 2160 points to defend (w/o) Olympics

May I also remind you that... Points Dropping through US Open = Federer (2,360), Nadal (3,150), Murray (2,860)

And on a final note, Nadal is very close to losing his no.2 ranking as Murray is only 475 points behind him, and Nadal is the first to defend a title during this hard court season.

Just wanted to put some things into perspective. Please no Trolling, Flame Wars, Etc. These are NUMBERS not OPINIONS.
 

norbac

Legend
Hope Murray gets a Slam if he ever gets to number two. It just wouldn't feel right after Rafa had to do so much when he was number two if Murray were to rise without a Slam.
 

フェデラー

Hall of Fame
Toronto will be VERY interesting. If nadal didnt play he would drop to no.3 but Djokovic would still be 1000 points behind him (haha)
 

P_Agony

Banned
Hope Murray gets a Slam if he ever gets to number two. It just wouldn't feel right after Rafa had to do so much when he was number two if Murray were to rise without a Slam.

I agree. If Murray is to become #2, then it should be by winning a slam, not by becoming the ATP version of Safina.
 

JeMar

Legend
I agree. If Murray is to become #2, then it should be by winning a slam, not by becoming the ATP version of Safina.

Um, becoming number 2 is nowhere near as big a deal as Safina holding on to number 1 for so long. Tons of players have gotten to number 2 without winning a slam, for example look at someone like Tommy Haas. Ivanisevic didn't win his lone major until after like 10 years of becoming number 2.
 
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Clydey2times

Hall of Fame
You don't need to win a slam to be a respected number 2. You need one to be a respected number 1, but certainly not a number 2. Murray has been incredibly consistent. He even managed to make up ground over the clay stretch. If he gets to number 2, he deserves it. He was two wins away from being the new world number 1, after all.
 

GameSampras

Banned
Murray isnt winning a slam anytime soon.. SO i wouldnt put much stock in him.. He is obviously proving he isnt slam material yet..
 

GameSampras

Banned
The US Open finalist from last year, who's improved a lot since then, isn't slam material yet?

Makes sense.




He hasnt proved it.. He was blown off the court by Fed at the USO.. Embarrassed in front of his home crowd by Roddick.. Underperformed at the AO.. He sucks on clay so we know the story there anyways..


Nowhere I have seen that Murray is actually slam material.. Hes more or less that 3 set, small tournament player who seems to do better with less pressure.


Murray has improved his game.. But the big question is not really his game, but his head.
 
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