Like the 2 handed backhand in recent decades, will there be a rise in the 2 handed forehand in the future ?

[skaj]

There's 0 benefit to a 2 handed forehand over a good one handed forehand.

I'm actually curious if we'll ever see a top player who can hit forehands off both sides.

A two handed forehand has no biomechanical advantages over a one handed forehand. In fact, its severely limited in comparison.

Maybe you don't know about the advantages, that doesn't mean they don's exist.

 

[Red Rick]

Maybe you don't know about the advantages, that doesn't mean they don's exist.

Maybe reaction time from return on shots without reaching or somethong but thats gonna be all of it lol

 

[Lew II]

I play 2h forehand. I feel more control and precision, even though I don't have much power and spin.

It's great for slicing.

 

[3loudboys]

@grzewas please pick up the white courtesy phone.

You beat me to that, so I'll invite @oserver to provide his thoughts on this.

 

[DSH]

The only two-handed FH players that I can think of who were any good were Seles (who was obviously great), Pancho Seguro and Fabrice Santoro.

How revolutionary (and devastating) was Seles' two forehand at that time?

 

[Start da Game]

anything can happen if the brainless ones continue to run the sport.........one scenario where i can think of two handed forehand is on a oval shaped court instead of a rectangular court.........with little margins, control and precision will take precedence over aggression.........

 

[skaj]

Maybe reaction time from return on shots without reaching or somethong but thats gonna be all of it lol

You can adjust to the ball easier if you overrun, it's easier to handle serves directed to your body, you can create many angles, it can help you with precision...
lol

 

[Red Rick]

You can adjust to the ball easier if you overrun, it's easier to handle serves directed to your body, you can create many angles, it can help you with precision...
lol

Those are super minor compared to the gigantic disadvantages of spin, reach, pace and open stances.

 

[Fairhit]

Biomechanically speaking, the fh is easier because the muscles and tendons are designed to impart force to the front you accumulate force by coiling back and release it going forwards, the backhand does not have this ability to generate force so a 1hbh will need the assistance of the kinetic chain to be competitive but will no reach the force of the forehand, the 2hbh uses the force of the other hand to help create more power but it limits the reach of the stroke, applying this to a 2hfh will limit its power, limit its reach and just adds a non dominant hand to the ecuation, it is a good technique to use if the person is not strong enough or has an injury but for the rest of the people it will only be a lesser shot.

 

[skaj]

Those are super minor compared to the gigantic disadvantages of spin, reach, pace and open stances.

You can achieve more than enough pace(e.g. Seles) with a two-hander, and spin. Also it's better for redirecting the ball for example, more control... So those are not super minor.

Anyways, I am glad you've realized that there are plenty benefits to a two-hander.

 

[Red Rick]

You can achieve more than enough pace(e.g. Seles) with a two-hander, and spin. Also it's better for redirecting the ball for example, more control... So those are not super minor.

Anyways, I am glad you've realized that there are plenty benefits to a two-hander.

There's a very big reason players with the best backhands will run around it to hit a forehand when they get a sitter because unless their forehand is absolute trash it's still better to hit offensive shots from any position. A 2 handed forehand is similar with even less reach

 

[skaj]

There's a very big reason players with the best backhands will run around it to hit a forehand when they get a sitter because unless their forehand is absolute trash it's still better to hit offensive shots from any position. A 2 handed forehand is similar with even less reach

Yes, most of them, because forehand is, in most cases, the more dangerous shot, even if it is not that great, as you said. Not sure what does that have to do with what we are talking about, you seem to keep expending the topic every time you write.

 

[Red Rick]

Yes, most of them, because forehand is, in most cases, the more dangerous shot, even if it is not that great, as you said. Not sure what does that have to do with what we are talking about, you seem to keep expending the topic every time you write.

I mean I can just go back to the tl;dr version of 'nah it's **** lol'

 

[skaj]

I mean I can just go back to the tl;dr version of 'nah it's **** lol'

Maybe it's best that you don't write anymore.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

Maybe it's best that you don't write anymore.

Funny fact: I feel the same about you.

 

[Red Rick]

Maybe it's best that you don't write anymore.

 

[Red Rick]

There's a very big reason players with the best backhands will run around it to hit a forehand when they get a sitter because unless their forehand is absolute trash it's still better to hit offensive shots from any position. A 2 handed forehand is similar with even less reach

Yes, most of them, because forehand is, in most cases, the more dangerous shot, even if it is not that great, as you said. Not sure what does that have to do with what we are talking about, you seem to keep expending the topic every time you write.

Biomechanically speaking, the fh is easier because the muscles and tendons are designed to impart force to the front you accumulate force by coiling back and release it going forwards, the backhand does not have this ability to generate force so a 1hbh will need the assistance of the kinetic chain to be competitive but will no reach the force of the forehand, the 2hbh uses the force of the other hand to help create more power but it limits the reach of the stroke, applying this to a 2hfh will limit its power, limit its reach and just adds a non dominant hand to the ecuation, it is a good technique to use if the person is not strong enough or has an injury but for the rest of the people it will only be a lesser shot.

Found a real long poast offender here.

 

[skaj]

Funny fact: I feel the same about you.

I don't feel anything about the poster, I just gave him a friendly advice.

 

[BGod]

There's 0 benefit to a 2 handed forehand over a good one handed forehand.

I'm actually curious if we'll ever see a top player who can hit forehands off both sides.

Just like 2HBH over 1HBH. The 2 hander is a conservative, high percentage return but rarely winning shot.

And we will get at least a top 20 guy who can hit both sides. The issue is switching hands during points. Would be more likely depending on sides like constantly playing reverse angles, etc.


For the OP, in the men's game never in Top 50.

 

[Swingmaster]

There's 0 benefit to a 2 handed forehand over a good one handed forehand.

I'm actually curious if we'll ever see a top player who can hit forehands off both sides.

I’m curious about that too. But anyway, commentors talk about a player’s two handed back being his or her stronger side all the time. Do you think that when they say that they don’t really mean it or are they wrong?

 

[Red Rick]

I’m curious about that too. But anyway, commentors talk about a player’s two handed back being his or her stronger side all the time. Do you think that when they say that they don’t really mean it or are they wrong?

It's much more in relation to other players rather than in absolute terms. I think very few people have absolute better backhands than forehands.

 

[HuusHould]

The only two-handed FH players that I can think of who were any good were Seles (who was obviously great), Pancho Seguro and Fabrice Santoro.

Don't forget Marion Bartoli!

 

[HuusHould]

More spin means the ball loses more speed in the air. You should look carefully at old matches, and see how much more running the players had to do even though they weren't hitting as hard, compared to today, simply because the balls were flying through the air noticeably faster.

Given your avatar you should also mention the other thing more spin can result in, which are sharper angles!

 

[HuusHould]

As far as the reach issue goes, you just have to be able to hit the single hander as well where necessary. I actually think there's more feel with two hands, be it on a volley or groundstroke. Its no coincidence that players like Santoro and Hsieh have great feel. I've been surprised experimenting with a double handed (Borg style release) slice backhand (I know we're talking about fhs), you get more revolutions and it's easier on your arm.

 

[Fedinkum]

...I hope 1 handers come back into vogue though. Maybe if Shapo and Tsitsi are successful enough, they could revive it for future generations.

 

[HuusHould]

Some Austrian's feeling left out.

 

[King No1e]

Thiem isn't NextGen in my view. He's ThisGen.

 

[Fairhit]

Thiem isn't NextGen in my view. He's ThisGen.

ThiemsGen.

 

[HuusHould]

Thiem isn't NextGen in my view. He's ThisGen.

You could argue he's already been successful with the one hander, which I guess is part of what your saying (the other aspect being his age).