Looking for a racket that is arm friendly for one hand backhand player.

liujarvis

New User
I just got tennis elbow recently. I am using Blade 16x19 with all poly. My doctor, who is also a good player, suggested that I change to two-handed backhand.
I want to try some more arm-friendly racquets with multi/gut strings. If they don't work I might consider changing to two-hand backhand.
Here are some racquets on my list but I'm open to other choices.
1. VCore 98 2023. I have done the demo via our local tennis store, and I really like it so far.
2. VCore 95 2023
3. Percept
4. Head Extreme Tour
5. CX200 Tour

I saw that people here also recommended Prokennex. My local tennis store doesn't carry this brand. Is it really that comfortable? I might demo the Ki black ace pro via Tennis Warehouse.
 

gino

Legend
I just got tennis elbow recently. I am using Blade 16x19 with all poly. My doctor, who is also a good player, suggested that I change to two-handed backhand.
I want to try some more arm-friendly racquets with multi/gut strings. If they don't work I might consider changing to two-hand backhand.
Here are some racquets on my list but I'm open to other choices.
1. VCore 98 2023. I have done the demo via our local tennis store, and I really like it so far.
2. VCore 95 2023
3. Percept
4. Head Extreme Tour
5. CX200 Tour

I saw that people here also recommended Prokennex. My local tennis store doesn't carry this brand. Is it really that comfortable? I might demo the Ki black ace pro via Tennis Warehouse.
a lot of 1hbh elbow problems derive from the extra wrist action at the tail of the follow through. if that is a consideration for you, try and abbreviated the follow through

i had golfers elbow for 5+ years & attribute it to poly. I use volkl cyclone tour, topspin cyber flash or diadem solstice black in my sticks these days and have zero pain. all of those polys pretty soft & under 160 on the TW stiffness scale

racket wise, id stick to low RA stuff. your blade is actually pretty flexy at 61 RA.

maybe can even consider buying used frames that have softened due to restrings/play/etc. off the shelf stuff, Clash is the lowest RA you can get. Coming from a blade, speed pro w 62 RA is similar, layup may suit you better

otherwise look at the gravity pro, pure strike VS, & old frames on resale market
 

PRS

Semi-Pro
A one-handed backhand by itself won't cause tennis elbow, but poor technique on one definitely can. Switching to a two-hander would fix that, but hitting with better technique also would.

In the meantime, to help you recover, I like your suggestions of the Yonex Percept and Dunlop CX 200 Tour. I would also second somebody's suggestion of the Pro Kennex Black Ace. Pro Kennex really is the most arm-friendly brand out there, so if you're able to demo one (possibly from TW), then it's definitely worth a look (any one of their racquets really, whichever sounds best to you).
 

Tranqville

Professional
A softer, arm-friendly, foam-filled alternative to Blade is Technifibre TF40 305 16x19.. TF40 315 may work even better for one handed backhand. Please do consider more headlight balanced racquets than Blade, it may help with your elbow.

Yonex VCP 97 is super comfortable and works great for 1HBH, but a bit low-powered. The new Percept 97 must be even better for 1HBH become of stiffer hoop, a bit more powerful, also arm friendly.

Also, of course, make sure not to play with dead poly. They should be cut after 10-15 hours of play. Maybe you can just play with your Blade with a full bed of natural gut or good multi like Triax. Not sure which Blade you use, but the latest v8 is soft and comfortable.
 

basil J

Hall of Fame
Blade is pretty comfortable frame. How about going to full gut or multi and see how the arm holds up. Traditionally head light frames are best for 1 HBH. PK does make great arm friendly frames and they also play well if string set up changes do not help.
 

stapletonj

Hall of Fame
1. get the racket head out in front of your elbow before contact. (This sounds like "be earlier" but it is not just that, you can be earlier and the racket head is still lagging behind your elbow)
2. get your grip more behind the handle

think technique, not equipment
 

basil J

Hall of Fame
1. get the racket head out in front of your elbow before contact. (This sounds like "be earlier" but it is not just that, you can be earlier and the racket head is still lagging behind your elbow)
2. get your grip more behind the handle

think technique, not equipment
Also check to make sure your grip is not too small. The trend to smaller grips is great for forehand spin, but can make 1HBH feel unstable, leading to gripping too tightly and causing strain in the tendons.
 

ttlapointe

Rookie
When most racquets were hurting my wrist and elbow after a short playtesting of stiffer racquets, the only one that was soft enough to play comfortably was the Vcore Pro 97 2021. Still playing with it, but now my arm is ready to play with other frames without pain. Will definitely stay under 62 RA from now on. The Percept 97 is really a nice option once your arm is ready. It keeps several qualities of the VCP while being just firmer/crisper enough to add the bit of power than was lacking in the VCP. That being said, as you can read all over the forums, the racquet is only a part of the solution, softer strings, lower tension, physical therapy/training, can also help quite a lot.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Just wondering if you might have played with ‘dead’ poly strings? Most polys go dead within 10 (for stiff polys) to 20 hours (softer copolys) with the time duration being shorter the harder you and opponents hit. Players who don’t break poly early or don’t cut out their strings within this time frame are likely to get injured. Also, polys play well even at low tensions well below 50 lbs and they are more comfortable at lower tensions.

Try soft strings first before you switch racquets. Weird that your doctor is asking you to switch to a 2HBH.
 

tele

Professional
you should switch away from poly until your elbow has healed. also, have you measured the swingweight on your blade? if too low, you could be missing the necessary plow to sufficiently absorb shock. weight in the handle could also help. when i had te, the prince ats tour 95 with a multi felt very nice on the arm. i have also heard good things about the k7 red
 
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OP, that's pretty much every racquet that is 6 or more points headlight, with flex less than 65, which means it'd have to be at least 11.7 ounces. Stay away from the more head heavy balances, especially if you're asking this question. If you're late swinging, those sluggish racquets are difficult on your arm.
 
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Deleted member 793875

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Blade is pretty comfortable frame. How about going to full gut or multi and see how the arm holds up. Traditionally head light frames are best for 1 HBH. PK does make great arm friendly frames and they also play well if string set up changes do not help.
i was going to say, the blade is already very arm friendly i feel like, so would switching rackets really make a difference for you?
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
I just got tennis elbow recently. I am using Blade 16x19 with all poly. My doctor, who is also a good player, suggested that I change to two-handed backhand.
I want to try some more arm-friendly racquets with multi/gut strings. If they don't work I might consider changing to two-hand backhand.
Here are some racquets on my list but I'm open to other choices.
1. VCore 98 2023. I have done the demo via our local tennis store, and I really like it so far.
2. VCore 95 2023
3. Percept
4. Head Extreme Tour
5. CX200 Tour

I saw that people here also recommended Prokennex. My local tennis store doesn't carry this brand. Is it really that comfortable? I might demo the Ki black ace pro via Tennis Warehouse.
Changing to any new (different) racquet can be a little rough on the arm, just because it will handle a little differently than your familiar player and you'll likely rack up a few extra mis-hits as you adjust to it. Making a switch can be terrific if we get lucky and land on the right racquet right away, but you won't know whether you'll have a decent fit with a different frame until you jump in a play with it for a bit. The upside of demos...

Switching to a two-handed backhand comes with no guarantees. I honestly know a decent local club player (not one of my students) who got serious tennis elbow a few years ago after switching to a two-hander. If your aptitude is stronger with using the one-hander, it can likely work fine for you with a combo of improving any possible troubles with technique along with getting away from any poly string for at least the short term. You might even need to protect your elbow by learning/employing a slice backhand a little more often.

Step #1: Dump the poly!! Poly strings will make any racquet play rougher on the arm than softer strings; syn. gut, multifiber, or natural gut. Natural gut is the undisputed champ in terms of promoting a more happy arm/elbow, but you might get all the comfort you need with less expensive multifiber or moderately (and affordable) soft syn. gut.

Lots of "racquet technology" innovations are just gimmicks, but the Kinetic design features that ProKennex have come up with are the real deal in terms of promoting arm comfort.

There could easily be more than just one right answer if you go for a different racquet. Hopefully you've already landed on a good fit for you with the VCore 98. Yonex quality control seems to be tough to beat.

I've used a pair of the Dunlop CX-200 Tour (18x20) since the early spring of this year and it was quite comfortable for my 57-year-old arm strung with a bed of 17 ga. syn. gut at around 55 lbs. I added lead tape to their handles to get a more familiar balance and I can say that these frames have exceeded my expectations (I was worried that they would be too light and unstable for me).

I'm in the middle of transitioning into mildly lighter frames than my older 12.5-12.7 oz. arm-friendly Volkls (C10's and O10's). The Dunlop 200 T's have been fun, but I also just pulled out a Prince Phantom 97 (strung with 16 ga. syn. gut) that I picked up on sale perhaps a year ago. Because this racquet was different from my regular players when I first bought it, there wasn't much of a love connection through early trials. The Dunlops were my next sampling and although they've been fun, I haven't found that home-sweet-home confidence with them like I want with my go-to players.

Now that I've had the Phantom 97 back in action for maybe two weeks, I can say that whatever I was missing with the Dunlops is absolutely there for me with the Phantom and I'm getting at least one more Prince for myself this week. At least for me, the comfort and performance I get with this frame are superlative. If you need options to think over going forward, I think that both of these racquets are quite good.

Also remember than any racquet that's a little heavier than your personal normal might turn out to be fine for you with enough head-light balance to give it a comfortable degree of maneuverability. If your Blade is a little sluggish for you, maybe try adding some weight to your handle (I like to put 1/2" lead tape under my overgrip) to get a couple extra points of HL balance. With softer string and different balance tuned in, you might save yourself from the process of shopping out a new racquet.

Good luck with your quest (y)
 

chrisbc

Rookie
Changing to any new (different) racquet can be a little rough on the arm, just because it will handle a little differently than your familiar player and you'll likely rack up a few extra mis-hits as you adjust to it. Making a switch can be terrific if we get lucky and land on the right racquet right away, but you won't know whether you'll have a decent fit with a different frame until you jump in a play with it for a bit. The upside of demos...

Switching to a two-handed backhand comes with no guarantees. I honestly know a decent local club player (not one of my students) who got serious tennis elbow a few years ago after switching to a two-hander. If your aptitude is stronger with using the one-hander, it can likely work fine for you with a combo of improving any possible troubles with technique along with getting away from any poly string for at least the short term. You might even need to protect your elbow by learning/employing a slice backhand a little more often.

Step #1: Dump the poly!! Poly strings will make any racquet play rougher on the arm than softer strings; syn. gut, multifiber, or natural gut. Natural gut is the undisputed champ in terms of promoting a more happy arm/elbow, but you might get all the comfort you need with less expensive multifiber or moderately (and affordable) soft syn. gut.

Lots of "racquet technology" innovations are just gimmicks, but the Kinetic design features that ProKennex have come up with are the real deal in terms of promoting arm comfort.

There could easily be more than just one right answer if you go for a different racquet. Hopefully you've already landed on a good fit for you with the VCore 98. Yonex quality control seems to be tough to beat.

I've used a pair of the Dunlop CX-200 Tour (18x20) since the early spring of this year and it was quite comfortable for my 57-year-old arm strung with a bed of 17 ga. syn. gut at around 55 lbs. I added lead tape to their handles to get a more familiar balance and I can say that these frames have exceeded my expectations (I was worried that they would be too light and unstable for me).

I'm in the middle of transitioning into mildly lighter frames than my older 12.5-12.7 oz. arm-friendly Volkls (C10's and O10's). The Dunlop 200 T's have been fun, but I also just pulled out a Prince Phantom 97 (strung with 16 ga. syn. gut) that I picked up on sale perhaps a year ago. Because this racquet was different from my regular players when I first bought it, there wasn't much of a love connection through early trials. The Dunlops were my next sampling and although they've been fun, I haven't found that home-sweet-home confidence with them like I want with my go-to players.

Now that I've had the Phantom 97 back in action for maybe two weeks, I can say that whatever I was missing with the Dunlops is absolutely there for me with the Phantom and I'm getting at least one more Prince for myself this week. At least for me, the comfort and performance I get with this frame are superlative. If you need options to think over going forward, I think that both of these racquets are quite good.

Also remember than any racquet that's a little heavier than your personal normal might turn out to be fine for you with enough head-light balance to give it a comfortable degree of maneuverability. If your Blade is a little sluggish for you, maybe try adding some weight to your handle (I like to put 1/2" lead tape under my overgrip) to get a couple extra points of HL balance. With softer string and different balance tuned in, you might save yourself from the process of shopping out a new racquet.

Good luck with your quest (y)

What are you stringing the 97p up with tension-wise with that syngut? Have you found that a livelier string is better in that one?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I just got tennis elbow recently. I am using Blade 16x19 with all poly. My doctor, who is also a good player, suggested that I change to two-handed backhand.
I want to try some more arm-friendly racquets with multi/gut strings. If they don't work I might consider changing to two-hand backhand.
Here are some racquets on my list but I'm open to other choices.
1. VCore 98 2023. I have done the demo via our local tennis store, and I really like it so far.
2. VCore 95 2023
3. Percept
4. Head Extreme Tour
5. CX200 Tour

I saw that people here also recommended Prokennex. My local tennis store doesn't carry this brand. Is it really that comfortable? I might demo the Ki black ace pro via Tennis Warehouse.
I use #5 18*20 pattern
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@liujarvis - I'm not sure if you're still monitoring this thread, but here's what I would do:

Wellness -- I would start massage and flex bar exercises for the TE as soon as you can, and keep that up while you get back into playing; it will help break up the scare tissue and make way for stronger, healthier tendons and muscles in the long run. In tandem with that, try and eat as clean as you can, as that will help accelerate the healing process, among other obvious benefits.

Play -- I'd work to continue to clean up as much of your technique as you can, including proper grip, timing, take-back, unit-turn and follow-through, and actually swinging not a light-enough racquet, but a heavy-enough racquet, which will both promote proper mechanics and also allow the racquet to win more of the collision with the ball and deliver its own power, instead of you having to over-swing and/or arm the racquet excessively. All of that together should help take stress off of your TE area, and spread the effort and load more properly over your entire kinetic chain.

Racquet + String -- For maximum healing while continuing to play, you want a ProKennex, with the most shock-absorbent string bed you can still control, ideally full-bed natural gut, but if that's too costly or launchy, then a hybrid of gut/synthetic, or full-bed synthetic, and ZERO poly, at least for starters. Why PK? Because while softer conventional frames are a step in the right direction (older player frames, Clash, Phantom, Dunlop CX's, certain Volkls, etc.), nothing is quite as arm-protective as PK's moveable-mass technology (microbeads that shift right before contact, to deaden virtually all impact shock), and it works better to protect your arm than anything else on the market, period. Since you want to be <100", I would look at the Ki Q+ Tour, or one of the Ki Q+ Tour Pro's (315 or 325 18x20), possibly the Black Ace Pro. Combine one of those with my suggested string approach, and you should have arguably the most arm-friendly setup in your hands possible.

Do all of that, and you should be well on your way to healing and playing injury-free tennis, hopefully for good.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
What are you stringing the 97p up with tension-wise with that syngut? Have you found that a livelier string is better in that one?
I'm not at all a poly player, but I get all the performance I want from syn. gut and if my schedule gets busy, I can slug with this string every day without my arm getting at all grumpy.

So I can't really compare livelier vs. stiffer string beds in my Phantom. I can say that I don't need to tension my 16 ga. Kirschbaum SG as high in this frame compared with what I'd need with my Volkl C10's to get those to behave. My C10's might need 58-59lbs. when it's warm in the summer, but I can probably go about 4 lbs. lower with this racquet (same string, same conditions).

I checked my notebook, but didn't find the tension I used for my last install... and these current strings are a little old. They feel like they're in the neighborhood of 55 lbs. along with some softening over time compared to what I'd expect from a more crispy-punchy fresh set tensioned at 57 lbs.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@fuzz nation - The Phantoms are so low-powered, especially the 97P, and so low-flex, that they really almost require a snappier, bouncier string bed, and full-bed syn gut is certainly one such option. The 97P will also play well with a hybrid in the low 50's / upper 40's, or full-bed poly in the low 40's, upper 30's, but the more poly, the higher the racquet head speed needs to be to get any kind of court penetration whatsoever, and free counterpunching power is basically non-existent with a full bed of all but the softest/springiest poly, so having at least one of the two string sections be gut/syn-gut/multi/zyex is a good idea. All the more reason to just stick with full-bed syn gut, provided it gives you the playability you like.
 
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I echo the suggestion to try the PK Black Ace Pro 97. Just too comfortable, but performing amazingly in every shot. Surprising powerful and lively despite the specs
 

born_hard

Rookie
Head Extreme Tour is quite powerful and its weight and SW is on the lower side + its arm friendly (RA63). This is an unique combination. I put some weight un the handle, at 12, 9 and 3 oclock, it weighs now with Overgrip and dampener 334g.
I can hit flat and spin shots with lots of control and power. So if i can customize, you can do that too. And i have a very weak wrist and shoulders are also a problem, but with this Extreme Tour i ahve absolutely no complaints.
As bonus the feel at contact is crisp and lively.
Use 1,20mm strings to open up the Sweet Spot cause thats the only downside if this racket.
 

liujarvis

New User
Thank you all for your kind suggestions. I just want to give some updates.
I have demoed a couple of racquets as follows:
1. Vcore 98
2. Vcore 95
3. PK Black Ace
4. Percept
5. CX200 Tour
6. Prince Phantom 97
7. Wilson prostaff 97

They are all from TW demo so I really don't have a choice for string but just multi.
Overall speaking, I found that, besides the stiffness, the lighter head racquets make me feel more comfortable. With that being said, the best one was Phantom from arm-friendly perspective. But it lacks some power. To me, Vcore 98/95 have the best balance between comfortability and controlability.
Wilson prostaff was surprisingly good to me. It brings me very good power and spin. As I said, it's a 7 HL racquet, I feel OK even though it's RA is 67. I would considering using it if my arm can be completely healed.
For now I will consider Vcore 98/95 and a Phantom for backup.
I ordered three more to demo from TW this week:
1. Phantom 93 18/20
2. PK Qi+ Tour 315
3. Volkl C10 Pro

BTW, what do you guys think about Vcore 98 versus 95?

Thank you again for your help. I appreciate all your comments.
 

eric42

Rookie
BTW, what do you guys think about Vcore 98 versus 95?
I'm referring to '23 for both but to me the 98 has a less solid/stable feel, more vibration, more launch angle, and more power. Spin is similar between the two, but the 95 has a more damped, dense solid precise feel and maybe a little softer flex. Some of that is purely a function of the smaller head. Surprisingly different racquets though. I much prefer the performance and feel of the 95.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
I'm referring to '23 for both but to me the 98 has a less solid/stable feel, more vibration, more launch angle, and more power. Spin is similar between the two, but the 95 has a more damped, dense solid precise feel and maybe a little softer flex. Some of that is purely a function of the smaller head. Surprisingly different racquets though. I much prefer the performance and feel of the 95.
Agree with all of this. The 95 is special but the 98 is average.
 
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