Looking for ambitious tennis partner(s)
- Thread starter peoplespeace
- Start date
yonexpurestorm
Rookie
because he is not serious about competing
peoplespeace
Professional
what is the question?!:shock:
peoplespeace
Professional
haha i wish i was less serious about that
Wuppy
Professional
Any Updates?
I think most people didn't get the OP's reasoning. He doesn't actually think he can reach those goals, but they do give him an honest, middle-class justification to go around the world playing tennis. Most middle-class folks can't just let themselves "waste" their lives, they need to justify their experiences by telling others (and themselves) that they are working toward a socially-acceptable goal of some sort.
Bumming around the world playing tennis is not a socially acceptable goal for the middle-class. Achieving a professional tennis ranking, trying to perhaps make a living doing it, etc. etc. is at least somewhat acceptable. The middle-class is all about achievement, and if you're doing something fun without a goal of high achievement, you're considered a wastrel. This thread is the OP's attempt to convince himself and others that he's not a wastrel, nothing more.
I think most people didn't get the OP's reasoning. He doesn't actually think he can reach those goals, but they do give him an honest, middle-class justification to go around the world playing tennis. Most middle-class folks can't just let themselves "waste" their lives, they need to justify their experiences by telling others (and themselves) that they are working toward a socially-acceptable goal of some sort.
Bumming around the world playing tennis is not a socially acceptable goal for the middle-class. Achieving a professional tennis ranking, trying to perhaps make a living doing it, etc. etc. is at least somewhat acceptable. The middle-class is all about achievement, and if you're doing something fun without a goal of high achievement, you're considered a wastrel. This thread is the OP's attempt to convince himself and others that he's not a wastrel, nothing more.
Last edited:
The OP is a Dane. I doubt he is concerned about how others perceive him, nor does he have the need to create a perception of working to achieve some high goal, either for himself or others.
Wuppy
Professional
What? He's a Dane so he's exempt from caring about how others think about him? He's not part of the middle class because he's Danish? Huh?The OP is a Dane. I doubt he is concerned about how others perceive him, nor does he have the need to create a perception of working to achieve some high goal, either for himself or others.
You've clearly not seen the psychological insight of my statements nor have you contributed any insight of your own.
goober
Legend
The OP is a Dane. I doubt he is concerned about how others perceive him, nor does he have the need to create a perception of working to achieve some high goal, either for himself or others.
Sure- start a thread saying you are 41 years old, started playing tennis a couple years earlier and say you are goal is to qualify for a main draw of a futures event is not a high goal. Happens all the time. Definitely not an attention getter.
That's not what I said.
Oh, that was psychological insight? Thank you for explaining that.
You've made a sweeping generalization and a judgement about the OPs motivation based on a U.S.-centric opinion.
Wuppy
Professional
Nah, you're just unable to grasp what I was saying. Middle-class mores stretch much further than the US. I've known people throughout the western world, and we're all pretty much the same. Reread my comment, be honest with yourself, and maybe you'll get a little insight into life and human psychology.
I heard that Steffi Graf's father was an exceptional athlete and started playing tennis late in life but managed to get nationally ranked in Germany. Obviously, he would have done much better if he started off when he was younger. It's not unheard of that a very talented player could play at the satellite level starting late in life, so I'm not closed-minded on the idea of that ever happening.
However, after looking at the OP's video, I'd have to say it's too ambitious at this point.
However, after looking at the OP's video, I'd have to say it's too ambitious at this point.
yonexpurestorm
Rookie
any updates on tournament results peoplespeace? hows the training coming along. another vid showing your progress would be cool.
peoplespeace
Professional
Is that u Hantuchova?? Stop stalking me!! Stop putting me down!! And for the love of "god" STOP TRYING TO SOUND SMART!! UR BLOND AND ALL BLONDS ARE DUMB!!!
peoplespeace
Professional
i guess i could post another vid soon as the current one doesnt do my current level justice. I guess in a match today againt myself in the vid i would only get a handful of points.
Im not unhappy with my progress sofar given the little i have played (some 4-5 hours a week on average) and mostly against players who play worse than myself. One big dissapointment is that i was serving really well 6 months ago but not having worked on it for a while it has become quite a bit worse. I hope this is just temporary.
I still believe that i will get atp points (i also know what atp ranking i will never achieve, which i didnt 2 yrs ago) but it might take as much as 5 yrs from mainly because i wont be able to create the full time training conditions which was the reason i created this thread in the first place at a time when i had the time and money to train full time for a year.
peoplespeace
Professional
yes a future event is a high goal. I think SusanDK was saying that i dont need to create some (false) perception of a high goal to justify to myself or other that i travel and play tennis.
Just stumbled upon this thread. Wow, so much negativity.
OP, great goal. Very hard to achieve considering your current level. You may never get an ATP point, but in the process you will have traveled, met new people, improved your tennis level, kept in shape, and so many other things. I wish one day I could have the time, money and health to embark on such a project.
Good luck, have fun and try to find that thin line between maintaining a realistic outlook and discarding the negativity.
And let me know if you come to Paris someday, would be fun to hit!
OP, great goal. Very hard to achieve considering your current level. You may never get an ATP point, but in the process you will have traveled, met new people, improved your tennis level, kept in shape, and so many other things. I wish one day I could have the time, money and health to embark on such a project.
Good luck, have fun and try to find that thin line between maintaining a realistic outlook and discarding the negativity.
And let me know if you come to Paris someday, would be fun to hit!
The reason there's negativity is that he's 41 and by the looks of it, about a 3.5.
How is any of this realistic? As others have said, if you want to travel and improve, that's fine. But to say you're going to be pro opens yourself up to heavy criticism. If he was already playing futures events, that's one thing. But to be at his level and talk arrogantly about going pro rubs a lot of us the wrong way.
I wonder why that is? Why should others be supportive of someone who sets low goals but criticize one who sets very high goals? None of us are injured or harmed by peoplepeace's quest, so why should we be critical?
Got on this thread to see if peoplespeace had posted any new videos. I'd like to see the improvement from the prior video. I don't have the time or ability to completely devote myself to tennis but I'd like to see the results from someone who has. Good luck.
yonexpurestorm
Rookie
im not knocking the guy for stating high goals, but to post something like this and then not even post one result from a tournament seems like a cop out to me. if you read this whole thread i dont think you would even know if the guy has played a tournament yet.
Youre right. I've decided to declare myself eligible for the NBA draft. Anybody want to train with me?
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
I've criticized peoplespeace in this thread in the past but have also given him some advice.
I'm not sure where he is now, or what he is doing but from his past posts it didn't sound like he was organized at all in his training. The problem is, if he shows up to a tennis academy for example and says, "I want to train here and get an ATP point" they won't take him seriously and most likely just take his money. What he needs is to be exposed to open level players, Futures players and get used to their speed of play and movement on court as well as proper drills and training on court with a coach, in the gym and practice matches with a coach court side so he learns to think his way through matches. Without that, he's dead in the water. Training with a 14yr old junior player like I saw in one of his videos is a waste of time.
To me this isn't a matter of can he do it, will he do it? In the end, who cares its his choice, his time and effort and money. However, if you're gonna do something like this then its at least gotta be done right to give yourself a chance.
I'm not sure where he is now, or what he is doing but from his past posts it didn't sound like he was organized at all in his training. The problem is, if he shows up to a tennis academy for example and says, "I want to train here and get an ATP point" they won't take him seriously and most likely just take his money. What he needs is to be exposed to open level players, Futures players and get used to their speed of play and movement on court as well as proper drills and training on court with a coach, in the gym and practice matches with a coach court side so he learns to think his way through matches. Without that, he's dead in the water. Training with a 14yr old junior player like I saw in one of his videos is a waste of time.
To me this isn't a matter of can he do it, will he do it? In the end, who cares its his choice, his time and effort and money. However, if you're gonna do something like this then its at least gotta be done right to give yourself a chance.
peoplespeace
Professional
Hey tennis_balla tx for the advice, what u are prescriping is more or less what i aimed for when i created this thread in vain! Btw, are u still in Prague? Im thinking of travelling by train (interrail) around eastern and southeastern europe for a month starting later this week and wanted to know what the possibilities are to train seriously for about a week in Prague?
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
When would you be thinking of coming here? Send me your email address and I can give you more details.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
goober
Legend
Hey read Tonlars blog just so you have a taste of what you are in for. He hasn't got an ATP point yet either but he got pretty dang close. Made it through qualifying beating a current D1 player and a former top 800 ATP player. He lost in close match in the first round. He is late 20s and in the prime of his career. Interesting read for those trying to get ATP points.
http://tonylarson.blogspot.com/
http://tonylarson.blogspot.com/
Borrelli
Semi-Pro
Dude looks shredded.
There was also some white guy with blonde dreads who was doing the same thing with a blog, had a really corny nickname? Can't remember though, I'll try finding it again.
peoplespeace
Professional
I have seen clips of Tonlars game. If he had a decent serve he would already have several atp points. My getting an atp point will require that i get a very good serve, which im confident that i will. However, i must admit that im less confident that it will happen now than i was just a year or two ago. On the other hand i dont think that it will be easy to find an adult almost beginner who has made the kind of progress i have the last 4 yrs, and given the suboptimal training conditions ive had, i still believe that there is a fair chance i can do it.
TonLars
Professional
Lol good luck man, and thanks. I do have a better serve than you think though Im guessing
but youre right that I dont have a great serve. Hopefully we both get itWhat? I've no idea what you just said there.
peoplespeace
Professional
Lol good luck man, and thanks. I do have a better serve than you think though Im guessing
Yes hopefully!
I know that ur serve is better than the clips u uploaded a couple yrs ago, but ive seen many futures and it is rare that u see a player who has a serve that makes u think that that is his weakest link, thats what i meant. Gl, may the progress be with u!
peoplespeace
Professional
Why not!? Use ur fantasy! Lets say that in one year i improve so much that the new me would beat the old me 6-1 6-1 on average. With me so far?! Good! Lets say then that after one more year, i have again improved so much that i would again beat my former me by 6-1 6-1 on avarege. Got it??
Me1 is beaten 6-1 6-1 by me2 and me2 is beaten by me3 by 6-1 6-1....on avarege! And if i keep improving me3 will be beaten by me4 6-1 6-1 etc etc until approximately me7 becomes a top 10 atp player!
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Yes hopefully!
mmmmmm..........will you let us know when you are able to return your own serves?
