Miami Moving to Hard Rock Stadium...

Power Player

Bionic Poster
so what happens to crandon park and the existing courts there?

The argument is that it is a public park and does not need the 50 million investment to bring it up to spec. Locals have a different belief about the real motives that I won't get into on here.

It should remain a public park. But having a stadium that big in the middle will be pointless unless they start hosting more collegiate and Jr. events. Problem is that the USTA training Center is right up the road in Orlando and is taking a lot of those now.
 
The argument is that it is a public park and does not need the 50 million investment to bring it up to spec. Locals have a different belief about the real motives that I won't get into on here.

It should remain a public park. But having a stadium that big in the middle will be pointless unless they start hosting more collegiate and Jr. events. Problem is that the USTA training Center is right up the road in Orlando and is taking a lot of those now.

Have you played at the new USTA facility? I understand it’s in a direct flight path from the airport?


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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It would probably be cheaper to pull down the stadium than to maintain it, although it probably doesn't need too much work in the short to medium term.

The argument is that it is a public park and does not need the 50 million investment to bring it up to spec. Locals have a different belief about the real motives that I won't get into on here.

It should remain a public park. But having a stadium that big in the middle will be pointless unless they start hosting more collegiate and Jr. events. Problem is that the USTA training Center is right up the road in Orlando and is taking a lot of those now.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
So weird for me.


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Why weird? What’s wrong in trying to turn tennis players into rockstars?
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
The argument is that it is a public park and does not need the 50 million investment to bring it up to spec. Locals have a different belief about the real motives that I won't get into on here...

Miami-Dade voters were close to 70% in favor of the expansion, as I recall. Miami-Dade should respond to Matheson's aggression and remove the Rickenbacker Causeway so he can concentrate on his alleged environmental concerns. He can get a good taste of the local climate at the next Rotary Club meeting without the Causeway.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Voters don't trump property rights and Matheson has rights as the person who manages the bequest and he did well to insist on a modest expansion, but IMG wanted a big expansion.

So we now have the gargantuan Hard Rock solution, but as almost all of us will not be attending does it really matter? IMG alone is at fault here.

Miami-Dade voters were close to 70% in favor of the expansion, as I recall. Miami-Dade should respond to Matheson's aggression and remove the Rickenbacker Causeway so he can concentrate on his alleged environmental concerns. He can get a good taste of the local climate at the next Rotary Club meeting without the Causeway.
 

MasturB

Legend
Voters don't trump property rights and Matheson has rights as the person who manages the bequest and he did well to insist on a modest expansion, but IMG wanted a big expansion.

So we now have the gargantuan Hard Rock solution, but as almost all of us will not be attending does it really matter? IMG alone is at fault here.

Eminent domain.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It is already in the public domain, but managed as a bequest by Matheson.

In any event, eminent domain has mostly been used as a form of legalised theft, so if it were available I'm sure the crooks would have used it.

Let's be realistic, it matters very little if the tennis is played in an attractive place or a car park so it's better to preserve a beautiful and environmentally-sensitive spot.

Eminent domain.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
It is already in the public domain, but managed as a bequest by Matheson.

In any event, eminent domain has mostly been used as a form of legalised theft, so if it were available I'm sure the crooks would have used it.

Let's be realistic, it matters very little if the tennis is played in an attractive place or a car park so it's better to preserve a beautiful and environmentally-sensitive spot.

You live in america?
 

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
I think they should do 4 matches at once considering the large stadium. In fact, for semi-s and finals, they can do both WTA and ATP matches together.

On further thoughts, I think they should do a ATP slam, WTA slam, and a ATP 250 in parallel for the other participants who are out of slam week 1 / challengers / journeymen etc. It will give the lower ranked players an opportunity to share the light and crowd support.

If I'm allowed to run wild with imaginations, I think they should also do couple of exhos with past players / bikini models / billionaire sponsors etc. play in parallel to the main tourney.

Imagine this. 4 courts at the same time inside the stadium.

Fed vs Nadal final
Serena vs Sharapova final
Tomic vs Coric 1 st rd ATP 250 - Tomic will get that extra motivation to tank in front of 60k+ crowd.
McEnroe vs Safin or Graf vs Kournikova...
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
...But having a stadium that big in the middle will be pointless unless they start hosting more collegiate and Jr. events...

Why exactly would it be pointless ?

Arthur Ashe stadium is used 3 weeks a year and then closed. AA is inside a public park and visible outside of it too.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Why exactly would it be pointless ?

Arthur Ashe stadium is used 3 weeks a year and then closed. AA is inside a public park and visible outside of it too.

Arthur Ashe also hosts the US Open each year. Crandon will not be hosting much at all now.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Arthur Ashe also hosts the US Open each year. Crandon will not be hosting much at all now.

I think I misunderstood you. You must have meant why keep that big stadium up with no tournament. That's a fair point. I thought you meant why expand it for the tournament.

I have such a well curated ignore list I sometimes miss the gist of a post when it is in the context of other posts I don't see. :oops:

A.A. doesn't merely host the US Open -- that's it's function. It has only rarely been used outside of the US Open and not for tennis that I'm aware of.
 
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