Microgel Prestige review...

kumat63

Rookie
I posted a short review of my three demo sessions with a Microgel Prestige MP (18x20). I've been playing the LM Prestige for 3 years. I liked the MG demo enough to make the switch.

Thanks to Roman at ****, I got a few new MG Prestige MPs from the Austrian factory. I strung them up with my preferred Big Banger ALU Power at 54 lbs. Roman put the old style Head grip pallet and a Head calfskin grip on them. They weigh 12.1 with overgrip and 7 1/2 points headlight. Identical spec to my LMs. I played D. I college tennis in the early 80s and am 4.5-5.0 currently. After playing a couple weeks with the MG Prestige (18x20) here are my impressions:

Head has done a great job of making a Prestige that has the soft, dampened feel of the older models and the great control that makes me a Prestige fan, but with just a bit more pop all the way around, especially on serve. Just what I was looking for!

Feel: This is where the MG Prestige seems really dialed in, for me at least. It feels much more solid and stable and muted than my LM Prestige which feels "twangy" and a little shaky in the upper hoop by comparison, especially on mishits. The MG feels very solid, even mishits don't jar much, but "buttery" at the same time. It doesn't feel stiff like Wilson N and K 6.1's do to me, or soft but "dead" like my old Yonex MP-1 Tour did to me and other recent Yonex players frames like the RDX500 or RDS001. Head seems to have managed to stiffen the upper hoop from the LM Prestige (without the unpleasant stiffness I found in the Flexpoint version) and yet, also make the racquet feel sweeter at the same time. Nice trick! I like!

Pop: No one buys a Prestige for power (at least they shouldn't unless they want to experience disappointment). But with even the 40 and up set (like me) looking to bang away from the baseline more and more, a little more pop is welcome (that is, if it comes without sacrificing feel and control). Head delivered on this front. Against my most regular playing partner, I've noticed my ace totals per match have more than doubled. I've also notched more winners off the ground than I usually do against him. So more pop in a racquet that feels sweeter than my old one. I really like!

Control: power is nothing without control, they say, for good reason. In this case again, the MG Prestige gave me the same precise control over the ball that made me a fan of the LM Prestige. I felt like I could put the ball right where I wanted it, and yet it got there just a hair quicker than it would with my LM Prestige. Spin production was similar to the LM Prestige. Neither are exactly spin doctors, but I got plenty of kick on second serves and ample topspin and slice when I needed it. Much liking in this department!

Overall: The mold sure looks the same as the old PT630-i.Prestige. It seems like Head has gone retro on us this time around and that's good news as the older Prestige models seem to get much more love than the last two generations (no more "precisely drilled" holes in the head, "total sweet spot construction" bulges in the frame, or stuff like that. No gimmicks, just a classic, proven mold). I'm certainly a convert. I don't have any recent experience with a PT630 or i.Prestige so I'm sorry I can't offer head to head comparisons there. But I can say that for me at least, the MG Prestige MP is an excellent player's stick for the modern game. I found great feel, awesome control, and just enough pop to allow you to hang with the big hitters. Anyone in the market for a player's stick like a Yonex RDS001, 002 Tour, RQis, Wilson K. 6.1, Babolat Pure Storm, Prince o3 or Ozone Tours, Becker 11, et. al. or those with older Prestiges looking for a new one that has the old school feel but more modern performance to match the way the game is going these days, should take a long hard look at the MG Prestige...
 
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etd

Rookie
How much did each racket cost without the modifications? How much did the grip pallet change and the leather grip cost?
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
Lovely man, I cannot wait to buy this stick. Im honestly counting down the days. Once my shop checked the flex in front of me and it came out to 61 strung, I knew I would buy it. Im glad to hear that it is gimmick free and you like it.
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mno_88

New User
I don't know if anyone have played with the yones rds 002 tour, but if someone have how would you compare the microgel prestige mp with 002 tour in power, better for groundstrokes, serve, etc. it would be great if you could help me up, i'm counting down the day too i the money is burning my pockets and sense i live in argentina the mgp will be for sale if soon in feb, so i want if kwon basically if its worth the waiting. thanks!!
 

TnTBigman

Professional
Nice. Looking foward to demoing it myself. I too favor the feel of the old school Prestige.
So let me get ths correct. **** has MG Prestiges made in Austria. While the rest gets the made in China?
 

Bartimeus

New User
Yes **** has the version that Pro will use. If you go to Products section in his site you can view that along this racquets sells also other models no sold anywhere. Moreover he offers complete customization service for every racquet even lenght
 

kumat63

Rookie
Nice. Looking foward to demoing it myself. I too favor the feel of the old school Prestige.
So let me get ths correct. **** has MG Prestiges made in Austria. While the rest gets the made in China?

Correct. For the record though, Roman says the Austrian and Chinese versions should play just the same, no real difference (unless you have him spec out your Austrian version with significantly different weight, balance...). I did hit extensively with a retail demo and I thought my Austrian MGs played and felt just the same, so I think he's right about that. I'm setting up one of my Austrians with the same string as the retail demo (Head FXP 17 instead of my BB ALU) and I'll do a back to back to see for sure and report later.
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
Thanks to Roman at ****, I got a few new MG Prestige MPs from the Austrian factory. I strung them up with my preferred Big Banger ALU Power at 54 lbs. Roman put the old style Head grip pallet and a Head calfskin grip on them. .


I'm not sure what you mean by "the old style grip pallet"?

Do the new MG racquets come with a different grip shape than the old rectangular Head shape? Have they gone more Wilson-ish? Dunlop-ish would be better for me :)
 

grimmbomb21

Professional
I'm not sure what you mean by "the old style grip pallet"?

Do the new MG racquets come with a different grip shape than the old rectangular Head shape? Have they gone more Wilson-ish? Dunlop-ish would be better for me :)

Its an option. He can do a Wilson type grip pallet or a Head type...
 

kumat63

Rookie
I'm not sure what you mean by "the old style grip pallet"?

Do the new MG racquets come with a different grip shape than the old rectangular Head shape? Have they gone more Wilson-ish? Dunlop-ish would be better for me :)

Roman's assistant mentioned something about a "new style" Head grip shape "L3" I think maybe it was? Anyway apparently Head has several grip pallets for the pros to choose. The Austrian run frames come without any grip pallets, just bare graphite, so you have to choose. I went with traditional Head shape pallets because it's what I've played for a long while. I thought the demo retail MG I tried had a rounder more "Wilson" shape feel to it, less "rectangular". Be interesting to see if the regular production frames are rounder or the old style rectangular Head shape...
 

Zachol82

Professional
I don't know if anyone have played with the yones rds 002 tour, but if someone have how would you compare the microgel prestige mp with 002 tour in power, better for groundstrokes, serve, etc. it would be great if you could help me up, i'm counting down the day too i the money is burning my pockets and sense i live in argentina the mgp will be for sale if soon in feb, so i want if kwon basically if its worth the waiting. thanks!!

I have a Yonex RDS 002 Tour as well as a Head Flexpoint Prestige. I know it's not the Microgel version since I have not been able to get my hands on it yet but the Prestige line should be somewhat close in comparison.

As for my experience with the racquets, the Prestige lacks power in comparison to the RDS 002 Tour, but it sure as heck made up for that in the control department. I'm thinking of putting my RDS 002 Tour away pretty soon since it just sits there now and I just play with my Prestige. It's just easier for me to generate power with a stick that has great control than it is for me to be able to control a stick with more power. I've also found out that the Prestige feels a lot better too if that helps.

Ground strokes: RDS 002 Tour - 7/10 | Flexpoint Prestige - 9/10
Volleys: RDS 002 Tour - 6/10 | Flexpoint Prestige - 8/10
Serves: RDS 002 Tour - 9/10 | Flexpoint Prestige - 8/10
Spins: RDS 002 Tour - 8/10 | Flexpoint Prestige - 8/10

For me, the RDS 002 Tour is only better for serving since it's a bit heavier and I can generate more power, but otherwise the Prestige wins. I can only imagine that the MicroGel Prestige would only be better :p
 

0d1n

Hall of Fame
I have hit with the MG Prestige Pro several times by now and it has a lot of power.

Hmmm did you ever hit with the Radical Pro??!?If so, how do you find their compared power levels? Also, when you say it has a lot of power, is that even when compared to your regular 100 Vantage??!?
I would be interested in the power level and maneuverability when compared to some other popular rackets you've hit...DNX 10 Mid, MSpeed pro 1, i. LM FXP Prestige MP, TFights (especially the 320 16x20 or 18x20).
 

mno_88

New User
thanks Zachol82, that really help, i actually play with fxp radical mp, and want to move to a heavier frame but don't want to lose so much power though so the mg prestige mp or the pro, if it's more powerful, appears to be a great choise. anyway i will see what tw says in the review and comments here when it's for sale and then make up my mind. if not i will buy a mg radical mp and just put up with the light weight. by the way i ask because tw says the mg radical has "70" in the power department (the same as a K90), what do you think, if you have played with it, is more or less powerful than the fxp prestige or fxp radical mp. that would be really great!! thanks and for the trouble!!
 
Hi, does amy have any info on european release dates on the MG prestige line? Specifically the UK?

Any help would be much appreciated!

JP
 

kumat63

Rookie
OP Do you live around NY? Or just in town to visit, or deal with Roman by mail?

J

J-Rog: No I don't live anywhere near NYC--just dealt with Roman by phone and e-mail. They are very helpful, prompt, courteous, and professional. Highly recommended...
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
No need to reccomend them.

I was just saying if you can thump then we could play.

But since you don't live around here nevermind.

J
 

93sq.

Semi-Pro
My tuned MG Prestige is the most powerful racquet i've ever hit with!

I always played with LM Presige Mid or Yonex RDS 001 mid...

and my MG prestige midplus is a lot more powerful
 

D. Nelson

Semi-Pro
Wise Comment !!

'...It's just easier for me to generate power with a stick that has great control than it is for me to be able to control a stick with more power......'

....MY SENTIMENTS, exACTly !! In fact, I JUST got off the doubles court....played 5 rounds (4 wins/1 loss [by a single break!!]) with a 26.5" Prestige Classic 600 !! It took a little while/practice....as I haven't hit with it in months....but geez....WHAT A BEAUTY !! I served 3 double-faults in 5 rounds (that shortened legth had to have something to do with it [not used to it!!]!)....but geez...a L O T of fun !!! And yes, I DO lose a little in reach (prone to getting passed by sort angles to my backhand side [while in the ad court...ugh!!])....but.....so what !?!?!?!!
 

Gimmick

Semi-Pro
The prestige pro is not as powerful as the radical pro by a noticeable margin. I would put the radical pro at 5% higher power than the prestige pro. The USRSA has the power level of the radical pro at 2149 and the LM prestige mp at 1957. The prestige pro has a little more pop than the LM but a slightly easier swing so I would suspect its going to be real similar in power rating.

The bigger difference is that the prestige pro feels like it has 10% more accuracy than the radical pro. The radical pro is a little more forgiving on off-center shots because of the slightly wider head, but this is where half of the directional precision is lost.

Overall, they are both great racquets, I would prefer the Prestige Pro though because the snap, and precision help me maintain depth control easier. I don't serve as many aces but I hit more consistent serves too.
 

kumat63

Rookie
No need to reccomend them.

I was just saying if you can thump then we could play.

But since you don't live around here nevermind.

J

Ah, yes, that would have been nice! As it is, it's about a 600 mile drive for me. So you've dealt with Roman in person I take it? A good experience? He probably has some very nice toys in his shop I'd imagine...
 

0d1n

Hall of Fame
I have hit with the MG Prestige Pro several times by now and it has a lot of power.

Hmmm did you ever hit with the Radical Pro??!?If so, how do you find their compared power levels? Also, when you say it has a lot of power, is that even when compared to your regular 100 Vantage??!?
I would be interested in the power level and maneuverability when compared to some other popular rackets you've hit...DNX 10 Mid, MSpeed pro 1, i. LM FXP Prestige MP, TFights (especially the 320 16x20 or 18x20).

Hi Sureshs, could I reiterate this question with regards to the Prestige Pro ??!?
Cheers
 

P_D

New User
My tuned MG Prestige is the most powerful racquet i've ever hit with!

I always played with LM Presige Mid or Yonex RDS 001 mid...

and my MG prestige midplus is a lot more powerful


How do you have it tuned, if you don't mind me asking?
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Nice. Looking foward to demoing it myself. I too favor the feel of the old school Prestige.
So let me get ths correct. **** has MG Prestiges made in Austria. While the rest gets the made in China?


Correct. For the record though, Roman says the Austrian and Chinese versions should play just the same, no real difference (unless you have him spec out your Austrian version with significantly different weight, balance...). I did hit extensively with a retail demo and I thought my Austrian MGs played and felt just the same, so I think he's right about that. I'm setting up one of my Austrians with the same string as the retail demo (Head FXP 17 instead of my BB ALU) and I'll do a back to back to see for sure and report later.


I spoke to Roman directly last week and he informed all the Microgels he has sold are made in China, and designed in Austria. This could be why the retail version you have and the on you bought off Roman play identical.
 

Nellie

Hall of Fame
I spoke to Roman directly last week and he informed all the Microgels he has sold are made in China, and designed in Austria. This could be why the retail version you have and the on you bought off Roman play identical.

I thought that Head had moved all product to China, but was "finishing" the pro racquets in Austria with paint, wieght, etc.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
^^^ Not sure about where they are finished, however, Roman made it clear to me all the frames were made in China.

This could mean the molds are Made in China, and perhaps finished (as you describe) in Austria. However, this would cost Head more money.

If memory serves, to save money, Head use to make the frames and finish them in Austria, with the exception of the grips, which would be finished in Check.
 
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