Who would think that? But on the other hand, Fed has made 7 finals to Rafa's 5 ( not a big difference, considering Rafa hasn't played as many Aussies) and their overall winning percentages there are pretty close. As for their h2h matches there, the better player won. Every time.
This thread isn't about H2H matches, it's about H2H numbers.
But one can also (I think more justifiably) say that it's misleading that Fed has won 6 AOs, and Rafa only 1, given all their other AO stats including the H2H.
Of course. I would argue Rafa's underachieved at the AO given his performances.
Oh.... kay. And you were alive when Connors and Lendl were playing or were you not born?
When else we’re they going to play? It’s funny everyone on the forum just picks and chooses the requisites for what counts as a W or L.
True, but IMO, no other player those years or this year would have defeated Roger in those finals. I also think that Roger at nearly 38 is in better shape than most players on tour who are ten years younger, which is why he is still reaching and winning slams the past three years.
Pre-2012 Nadal would've handled OIderer with ease on grass.
That Djoker, always doing just enough to win.
The fact that Thiem is the fittest says more about the state of the tour than about Thiem. At the French he was gassed in the final against Nadal because of his five setter against Novak. I get that it was tough to play three consecutive days but Nadal at the AO 2009 or Novak in 2012 also had tough semis and nevertheless were able to play five set finals without collapsing.
Making Nadal and Djokovic the standard for fitness is like making Federer the standard for consistent dominance. Players like that come once in a lifetime. Nads and Djoker's fitness and stamina were unprecedented in tennis. Thiem obviously falls short of that, but that doesn't mean he's not a really fit player.
Well we could also add Muster to the mix. Even broken back 35 old Agassi was able to play three consecutive five setters and still go toe to toe with peak Federer in the US Open 2005 final. These discussions about playing tough semis and therefore not being able to perform well in the final were not such a big deal before. Seriously I cannot see Thiem as particularly fit.
I could see Tsonga beating Fed in 08 but otherwise I agree
Nadal is pretty dominant at AO. Except for the finals of course
Leave Jaimie out of this.Sampras vs. Yzaga 2-2 (USO)
Misleading record because Yzaga > Sampras.
The H2H at the AO and RG more than makes up for it.
