Nobody said he isn't a baseliner.
he is not a baseliner by nature though, as proven by his play in the past. he is a baseliner because it works best with these conditions.
Nadal is the most dominating player of his era against top players
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Nobody said he isn't a baseliner.
he is not a baseliner by nature though, as proven by his play in the past. he is a baseliner because it works best with these conditions.
GoaLaSSo
Semi-Pro
Federer has become somewhat of a baseline/allcourt player. Typically, baseliners only come to net when the other player is barely getting the ball returned. Federer still approaches and takes more risks on his net play. I would still say federer is closer to an allcourt player because of the tactics he uses, but he is definitely comfortable trading shots from the baseline.
GoaLaSSo
Semi-Pro
Who has better volleys?
ivan_the_terrible
Hall of Fame
Fed is an all court player - he can play from the baseline, he can s&v, he play great defense from the back of the court. He typically does all of these things in his matches. Djok/Nads/Murray? No comparison.
BigServer1
Legend
I am definitely a Fed fan first and foremost, and while I don't like Rafa when he plays Fed, I like Rafa overall, and love what he has brought to tennis. I really don't like it when people try to disparage Nadal, his achievements or his career. For Fed fans to do that only makes Fed look worse, since Rafa's got a big edge h2h with Roger.
I agree that Federer is predominantly a baseliner. He's the most consistently all court player in the top 10, and he's still a great net player (see Wimby 2012 final for reference). He won 2003 Wimby serving and volleying, and beat Sampras at Wimbledon serving and volleying as well.
Once 2004 rolled around though, he started to camp out at the baseline more. Clearly it has been effective for him, but what makes his baseline game even more effective has been his ability to hit great approach shots and finish points off at net. His all around game and good net play has come in real handy in winning 7 Wimbledon titles and 5 US Open titles, as well as a lot of smaller fast court tournaments throughout his career.
Clueless...you have never watched Federer during his early years. My post is for the folks who have seen him played s/v back then, so don't add useless comment if you know thing about Federer.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Beeotch please!
You Fedephants trip me out with 'Federer is this or not this only because of this or that'
He truly is a god to you
Pathetic!
I suggest you deal with reality and not your or other Fedephants' irrational imaginations :twisted:
Federer is a predominantly a baseliner; period, point, blank!
Beeotch please!
You Fedephants trip me out with 'Federer is this or not this only because of this or that'
He truly is a god to you
Pathetic!
I suggest you deal with reality and not your or other Fedephants' irrational imaginations :twisted:
Federer is a predominantly a baseliner; period, point, blank!
Pot, kettle, black.
I would like to know his H2H against these opponenets on surfaces other than clay. The main reason he has such a good H2H is because other players lose to nadal on clay, but they don't get to play him as much on other surfaces because Nadal does go as consistently deep in other tournaments. Simple as that.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
What?
Nadal has won the WTF? When did that happen?
Nadal is the best of the rest, but he is not in the same ballpark as Federer, when we are talking about fast surfaces.
US Open has been gradually slowed down. Also, you conviniently failed to mention, that in the final were two typical grinders. The better grinder won last year.
He is not a S&V eyer, if that is what you are implying, I agree with you. But he can and does use S&V, when the opportunity presents itself (Madrid was one fantastic tourney, wasn't it?). And his ability and, indeed, use of different playing strategies define him as allcourter. An allcourter, who can and does adapt. Anyone, who is denying that, is making a laughing stock of himself.
Besides, Federer is outhitting all those players almost every time they play, so, it doesn't matter what you say. He adapts to big hitters better than anyone on tour. Deal with it.
That is your opinion. I think exactly the opposite. 20 stroke rallys at Wimbledon are plain boring.
And, I do not believe for a second, that you want the surfaces to be sped. You just said, that you prefer long rallies at Wimbledon. How can this happen, if the grass is slick and fast?
You have no idea what you are trying to say.
Ah. You hate to be reminded, that actually Federer played and won with a style, that you say he did not execute!
Some badd news for you. You will be reminded of that.
The way I see it, you are desparate. Saying, that Federer didn't won anything until the surfaces were not slowed down, when it is clear (and it has been the consensus for years), that Federer is a late bloomer.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Federer is an all-courter, who stays on the baseline, because the modern game requires it. The moment he saw an opening for S&V he used it. Remember Madrid 2012? Remember his match against Sampras?
So, now Wimbledon for juniors is not a good enough measure, if a player can S&V on fast slick low-bouncing grass?
Please, do us a favour, think before you post.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
early years; you mean when he was hardly winning anything
Do you think, that Federer was a late bloomer and if yes, when do you think that his development as a relatively complete player was to be seen (as an year)?
Federer is a great S&V in your books, despite him having S&V'ed less than 10% of his career? And I should think before I post?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Federer is a great S&V in your books, despite him having S&V'ed less than 10% of his career? And I should think before I post?
Ah, yes, reading comprehension.
Again, please, do us a favour, and think before you post.
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