Guess which top 10 Player has the best win % against Nadal?!

JennyS

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Player, Record, Win %
Federer: 7-13 35%
Murray: 2-7 22%
Djokovc: 4-14 22%
Roddick: 2-5: 28.6%
Del Potro: 1-4 20%
Simon: 1-3: 25%
Tsonga: 1-3: 25%
Verdasco: 0-9: 0%
Gonzalez: 3-6: 33.3 %

Funny how Roger is so famous for losing to Nadal yet has the highest win % against him in the entire top 10.

Also, Roger has more wins against Rafa than Murray and Djokovic COMBINED!
 
OddJack

OddJack

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Very early in his career, Nadal went ahead 6-1, then it became 8-6. Then he emerged as the best clay courter ever. From there he has added to his lead on their H2H. There is little doubt that had Federer not reached the finals of those 3 RG, and had Nadal reached more hard court finals, the results would be much different from what we see today.
 
フェデラー

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but nadal often loses to people outside of the top 10, usually in slams. Such as Tsonga, Murray, Soderling. Where i believe fed is is 117-0 against people outside of the top ten in slams>? Correct me if im wrong.
 
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nikdom

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All it takes to beat Rafa is.......



.... an average player. Less than 50% chance if his opponent is top 10.
 
OddJack

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フェデラー said:
but nadal often loses to people outside of the top 10, usually in slams. Such as Tsonga, Murray, Soderling. Where i believe fed is is 117-0 against people outside of the top ten in slams>? Correct me if im wrong.
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Consistency, consistency, consistency. Is the magic word in tennis.

In the history of Tennis, no other man has been more conisisten than Federer.

Regarding Nadal, as we continue to watch him more closely now after the long absence, I believe his consistency is the part that is going to falter even more. And that's my prediction.
 
jamesblakefan#1

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Nadal's losses to non Top 10 players in slams since his 1st GS title:

2005 Wimbledon-Gilles Muller (Rank #70)
2005 US Open-James Blake (Rank #34)
2006 US Open-Mikhail Youzhny (Rank #54)
2007 US Open-David Ferrer (Rank #15)
2008 Australian Open-JW Tsonga (Rank #38)
2009 French Open-Robin Soderling (Rank #23)

Federer's losses to non top 10 players in slams since 1st GS title

2003 US Open-David Nalbandian (Rank #13)
2004 French Open-Gustavo Kuerten (Rank #28)

I think this also adds credence to the fact that you can't blame Federer for the h2h, since Rafa has a history of losing to lesser players in HC slams, thus not allowing for more h2h matchups.

Plus he's missed 2 slams due to injury (2006 AO, 2009 Wimbledon). Are we taking those from Federer too?
 
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All-rounder

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jamesblakefan#1 said:
Nadal's losses to non Top 10 players in slams since his 1st GS title:

2005 Wimbledon-Gilles Muller (Rank #70)
2005 US Open-James Blake (Rank #34)
2006 US Open-Mikhail Youzhny (Rank #54)
2007 US Open-David Ferrer (Rank #15)
2008 Australian Open-JW Tsonga (Rank #38)
2009 French Open-Robin Soderling (Rank #23)

Federer's losses to non top 10 players in slams since 1st GS title

2003 US Open-David Nalbandian (Rank #13)
2004 French Open-Gustavo Kuerten (Rank #28)
2005 Australian Open - Marat Safin (Rank #86)
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Well two out of Federer's non-top 10 opponents have gone on to win the slam
 
T

tudwell

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jamesblakefan#1 said:
Nadal's losses to non Top 10 players in slams since his 1st GS title:

2005 Wimbledon-Gilles Muller (Rank #70)
2005 US Open-James Blake (Rank #34)
2006 US Open-Mikhail Youzhny (Rank #54)
2007 US Open-David Ferrer (Rank #15)
2008 Australian Open-JW Tsonga (Rank #38)
2009 French Open-Robin Soderling (Rank #23)

Federer's losses to non top 10 players in slams since 1st GS title

2003 US Open-David Nalbandian (Rank #13)
2004 French Open-Gustavo Kuerten (Rank #28)
2005 Australian Open - Marat Safin (Rank #86)
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Safin was the fourth seed at the 2005 Australian Open, so I'm assuming he wasn't ranked 86 in the world.

You might be thinking of the 2004 Australian Open?
 
JeMar

JeMar

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I'm pretty sure Federer went undefeated against the top 10 during one of his years as number one.
 
J

joeri888

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What strikes me is that he has not only been dominant against them all, but also has had his loss against 9 of them.
 
Nadalfan89

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Wow, Nadal has a better record against the top 10 than Federer does.

I could have used this when *******s were using the ol' "Fed beats field more than Nadal does" excuse.

Nadal truely is the best ever.
 
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rwn

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JennyS said:
Player, Record, Win %
Federer: 7-13 35%
Murray: 2-7 22%
Djokovc: 4-14 22%
Roddick: 2-5: 28.6%
Del Potro: 1-4 20%
Simon: 1-3: 25%
Tsonga: 1-3: 25%
Verdasco: 0-9: 0%
Gonzalez: 3-6: 33.3 %

Funny how Roger is so famous for losing to Nadal yet has the highest win % against him in the entire top 10.

Also, Roger has more wins against Rafa than Murray and Djokovic COMBINED!
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Maybe Nadal is an underachiever for winning only 6 slams ???
 
pame

pame

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Birke said:
What is GOAT?
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Greatest of All Time, though from the way the bar keeps getting set higher and higher for Fed, despite a plethora of all-time records, one would tend ot think sometimes it is "GOD" of All time
 
Speranza

Speranza

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Nadalfan89 said:
Gayest of all Time.

Federer is considered GOAT at the moment.
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I never had a hero, but Nadalfan89 (would the 89 be your year of birth?) you're my hero now!

Every word you utter is, well, just deserving of worship. From now on, if anyone criticizes you, I'll be there to defend you.

My hero!
 
IvanAndreevich

IvanAndreevich

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Federer is also the only one in Top 10 to beat Nadal in two best-of-5 matches, to take him to 5 sets on clay, beat him on clay in a final (two finals, even), and come back from 2 sets down to win in 5 (Miami 2005). Clearly, he's much better against Nadal than anyone else in the Top 10 consistently. Especially on clay.
 
Nadalfan89

Nadalfan89

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Speranza said:
I never had a hero, but Nadalfan89 (would the 89 be your year of birth?) you're my hero now!

Every word you utter is, well, just deserving of worship. From now on, if anyone criticizes you, I'll be there to defend you.

My hero!
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I get that a lot.
 
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FedFan_2009

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Yet we're supposed to believe that ONLY if Fed was above 50% on the H2H is he GOAT.... Besides Bill Tilden is the real GOAT, no matter what.
 
wasta

wasta

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Of course Nadal has high win% against the top 10 since he only meets the top 10 on clay. On the other surfaces he meets the rest of the tour and gets beaten. Can't believe some people consider this guy goat BECAUSE he suck ass on hard court and grass.
 
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Dutch-Guy

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wasta said:
Of course Nadal has high win% against the top 10 since he only meets the top 10 on clay. On the other surfaces he meets the rest of the tour and gets beaten. Can't believe some people consider this guy goat BECAUSE he suck ass on hard court and grass.
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Won 5 Masters on hc
Won 1 Wimby and made 2 finlas.
Yeah he "sucks" on hc and grass:).
 
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Gaudio2004

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Would be interesting if someone revealed Federer's winning % record against the Top 10, bar Murray and Nadal, he has 100% on nearly everyone.
 
DarthFed

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Gaudio2004 said:
Would be interesting if someone revealed Federer's winning % record against the Top 10, bar Murray and Nadal, he has 100% on nearly everyone.
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Nadal 7-13 (35%)
Murray 2-6 (25%)
Djokovic 7-4 (63.6%)
Roddick 19-2 (90.4%)
Del Potro 6-0 (100%)
Simon 0-2 (0%)
Tsonga 1-0 (100%)
Verdasco 3-0 (100%)
Gonzalez 12-1 (92.3%)
 
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FedFan_2009

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DarthFed said:
Nadal 7-13 (35%)
Murray 2-6 (25%)
Djokovic 7-4 (63.6%)
Roddick 19-2 (90.4%)
Del Potro 6-0 (100%)
Simon 0-2 (0%)
Tsonga 1-0 (100%)
Verdasco 3-0 (100%)
Gonzalez 12-1 (92.3%)
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Yeah that's the current top 10. But if you go back 2004-2007 his H2H against top 10 were very scary, he had almost no losses back then.
 
DarthFed

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FedFan_2009 said:
Yeah that's the current top 10. But if you go back 2004-2007 his H2H against top 10 were very scary, he had almost no losses back then.
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Lol im a fedfan no need to inform me how he ***** the old top 10..even his current record is fine considering most of these guys are out of his generation.
 
P_Agony

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I think Federer has a better H2H against most of the field than Nadal does.

Federer never lost to guys like Davydenko, Soderling, Del Potro, Monfils, Ferrer - all have beaten Nadal at least once in their careers.

Federer also has heavy winning records against Blake, Roddick, Hewitt, Gonzo - all guys have beaten Nadal too. I think Blake has a winning record over Nadal in fact.

Just goes to show you that tennis is a matchup thing, thus H2Hs mean just about nothing. What's important is the titles.
 
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Gaudio2004

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DarthFed said:
Nadal 7-13 (35%)
Murray 2-6 (25%)
Djokovic 7-4 (63.6%)
Roddick 19-2 (90.4%)
Del Potro 6-0 (100%)
Simon 0-2 (0%)
Tsonga 1-0 (100%)
Verdasco 3-0 (100%)
Gonzalez 12-1 (92.3%)
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A better record than Nadal's against the top 10, if you consider players in the top 20 like Ferrero, Soderling, Ferrer, Robredo (a true pigeon), etc, who are 0-11, 0-10, etc, to Roger, that's when it truly becomes frightening just how good he is.
 
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tudwell

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Federer and Nadal have both played 85 matches against the rest of the top ten. Federer's won 57 of his matches, Nadal 64 of his. Federer's win percentage is 67, Nadal's 75.
 
ubermeyer

ubermeyer

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DarthFed said:
Nadal 7-13 (35%)
Murray 2-6 (25%)
Djokovic 7-4 (63.6%)
Roddick 19-2 (90.4%)
Del Potro 6-0 (100%)
Simon 0-2 (0%)
Tsonga 1-0 (100%)
Verdasco 3-0 (100%)
Gonzalez 12-1 (92.3%)
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Wow! Federer fails against Simon. And his H2H against Murray and Nadal, are pretty abysmal. Weird.

Fed is still a goat though, the others are mere sheep.
 
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devila

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Federer got embarrassing help from special treatment and numerous lucky matches and walkovers (remember 2004 US Open, Wimbledon). Roddick refused to care about his tennis game and fitness since he was 21 yrs. old. That made Federer's classless, stupid personality become even more arrogant. His supporters turned into dull pinheads.

It's better to avoid this decade of tennis and watch real inspirational singers, actors and dancers. I'm so glad I didn't see tennis with the ugly bore Federer and his sadistic fans.
 
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Ossric

Semi-Pro
devila said:
Federer got embarrassing help from special treatment and numerous lucky matches and walkovers (remember 2004 US Open, Wimbledon). Roddick refused to care about his tennis game and fitness since he was 21 yrs. old. That made Federer's classless, stupid personality become even more arrogant. His supporters turned into dull pinheads.

It's better to avoid this decade of tennis and watch real inspirational singers, actors and dancers. I'm so glad I didn't see tennis with the ugly bore Federer and his sadistic fans.
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Posting with vehement bias should be embarrassing for you in my opinion.

It's pretty obvious you don't even believe your own post as you obviously haven't been avoiding this decade of tennis.

I do however appreciate the irony of your suggesting we follow the other arrogant, if not more arrogant at times, groups of people in this world for entertainment.

Enough with the hate. If you can't appreciate that Federer has made tennis players as a whole get better then you're the one missing out.

Since this post is, however, about Nadal, I will comment that he too is an amazing talent in his own way and has also forced the tennis world to improve and adapt.

Here's to hoping his injuries are not career ending.
 
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