New McEnroe Biomimetic Racquet!

lgbalfa

lgbalfa

Professional
did a lot of you like the maxply mcenroe paintjob?

i thought it looked pretty awesome with the retro wood paintjob.

glad to see that this new mcenroe racquet follows with the retro 200g look.
 
vsbabolat

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
ilian said:
The photo wouldn't open for me... :(
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The photos got posted. Here they are:
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I can't get over how amazing that pj is.. especially with the leather grip.
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ilian

ilian

Semi-Pro
Okay, I saw it on Google... Too bad it is just a PJ and will most probably have nothing to do with the original Max 200G unless customized.
 
PBODY99

PBODY99

Legend
lgbalfa said:
i agree - i doubt it will be similar to the original.
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I doubt that you can duplicate the feel of the original 200g with today's materials. When they were new nothing felt like them unless you played the Slazenger that used the same production method.
 
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johnnymacfan

Rookie
niktub said:
**** leather grip
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Ha! No chance...That's a straight up Dunlop leather grip.

And for the record, the racquet is stunning to look at. They did a great job modernizing an all time classic look.

I wish the machinery to create the Injection Molded racquets still existed, but alas it does not, so if you're looking for a 2012 injection molded racquet, you'll need to keep looking.
 
lgbalfa

lgbalfa

Professional
johnnymacfan said:
Ha! No chance...That's a straight up Dunlop leather grip.

And for the record, the racquet is stunning to look at. They did a great job modernizing an all time classic look.

I wish the machinery to create the Injection Molded racquets still existed, but alas it does not, so if you're looking for a 2012 injection molded racquet, you'll need to keep looking.
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he has used **** leather grips - not sure if he currently still does.

i have seen his racquets in person before as **** is around the corner from my apartment.
 
ilian

ilian

Semi-Pro
johnnymacfan said:
Ha! No chance...That's a straight up Dunlop leather grip.

And for the record, the racquet is stunning to look at. They did a great job modernizing an all time classic look.

I wish the machinery to create the Injection Molded racquets still existed, but alas it does not, so if you're looking for a 2012 injection molded racquet, you'll need to keep looking.
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The machinery could be made again if they decided to make injection moulded frames once more. The sad thing is that they probably won't do it.
 
ilian

ilian

Semi-Pro
ToneDaBass said:
Why would they? If they were actually better, then they would be making them right now, right?
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Not necessarily... They stopped making them for several reasons. First, the production was much more expensive than the regular method other companies were using and second, Dunlop was not able to adapt the injection moulding process in the making of larger headsized racquets that were strong enough. As good as the Max 200G was, not too many people could play with the small 82 square inch headsize and the hefty weight. As we all know, it is a consumer market so whatever the demand is, that is what the companies will produce.

Unfortunately, the majority of players who buy racquets from the store are hobby/recreational players who want a light weight racquet they can swing for hours without getting tired. Now, since a light weight racquet needs to be strong enough with less material, companies started making the frames stiffer and stiffer and here we are today... I personally dislike both new qualities of the modern racquets, but I have no choice, except for customizing or trying to find older racquets to play with. Since I do not compete professionally anymore, the first is a viable option for me, but not really for a young player who needs several racquets in his bag that could be regularly replaced by new ones.

I personally would buy a but load of new injection moulded frames if they ever decided to produce them again, but I am not keeping my fingers crossed...
 
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ToneDaBass

New User
ilian said:
Not necessarily... They stopped making them for several reasons. First, the production was much more expensive than the regular method other companies were using and second, Dunlop was not able to adapt the injection moulding process in the making of larger headsized racquets that were strong enough. As good as the Max 200G was, not too many people could play with the small 82 square inch headsize and the hefty weight. As we all know, it is a consumer market so whatever the demand is, that is what the companies will produce.

Unfortunately, the majority of players who buy racquets from the store are hobby/recreational players who want a light weight racquet they can swing for hours without getting tired. Now, since a light weight racquet needs to be strong enough with less material, companies started making the frames stiffer and stiffer and here we are today... I personally dislike both new qualities of the modern racquets, but I have no choice, except for customizing or trying to find older racquets to play with. Since I do not compete professionally anymore, the first is a viable option for me, but not really for a young player who needs several racquets in his bag that could be regularly replaced by new ones.

I personally would buy a but load of new injection moulded frames if they ever decided to produce them again, but I am not keeping my fingers crossed...
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But then professional players want to play with what will give them the best chance to succeed. It's well known they'll PJ to play with something that looks like what they endorse, but nobody is PJ-ing 82 sq. inch injection mold racquets.

Not too many people can play with the Biomimetic 100. If that racquet has the same type of customer that could play with an injection mold racquet, then why not make 'em that way?
 
ilian

ilian

Semi-Pro
ToneDaBass said:
But then professional players want to play with what will give them the best chance to succeed. It's well known they'll PJ to play with something that looks like what they endorse, but nobody is PJ-ing 82 sq. inch injection mold racquets.
Not too many people can play with the Biomimetic 100. If that racquet has the same type of customer that could play with an injection mold racquet, then why not make 'em that way?
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It is hard to PJ racquet that you can't find enough of, in order to play competitive tennis... Some players kept using the Max 200G years after it was discontinued, but at one point it became so scarce that eventually, they had to either retire or change to something else. There were a couple of larger head size IMF models (500i & 800i), but unfortunately, due to the trend of manufacturing wide body/profile racquets at the time, they did not have the classic pro player racquet beam width. Also, they were weaker since Dunlop couldn't adapt the injection moulding process for the making of structurally strong frames with head size larger than 85 square inches. They don't make the 100 series injection moulded, because the equipment was destroyed and because it was much more expensive to produce an injection moulded frame than a regular one.

The Biomimetic 100 as well as the other Dunlop 100 series have nothing in common with the Dunlop Max series, except for the relatively close head size.

Dunlop did plan to bring back the injection moulded frame some time after year 2000, but they never did.
 
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ToneDaBass

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Right now **** has 29 hits for searching "dunlop max 200g". That seems like it would be enough to satisfy any pro if there really were any sort of advantage with them over the current modern racquets.
 
ilian

ilian

Semi-Pro
ToneDaBass said:
Right now **** has 29 hits for searching "dunlop max 200g". That seems like it would be enough to satisfy any pro if there really were any sort of advantage with them over the current modern racquets.
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You think that any serious pro will try to source his racquets on the big auction site? After that comment, I am done replying... ;)
 
Rock Strongo

Rock Strongo

Legend
ToneDaBass said:
It's fine, I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, just trying to understand more the "aura" around the 200g ;-)
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There's something very VERY special about the Max. Over a million of them were made, which accounts to its greatness. Part of it is a heavy ball-crushing doom log with huge power (yes, huge power from an 82 square inch racquet), the other part is an extremely flexible control stick. It's really really hard to describe it really, but think of a player with devastating power like Graf wielding it compared to a touchy-feely player like McEnroe who had enormous success with it, and you'll see the wide range of players it suited. It's like Head's Youtek, if it actually worked! Just get one and try it out!
 
Backhanded Compliment

Backhanded Compliment

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ToneDaBass said:
It's fine, I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, just trying to understand more the "aura" around the 200g ;-)
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It's something you just have to try, it's just different. My hitting partner and I both hit with them for JMac's 53rd birthday and there is no way to describe how heavy a ball it produces on the FH side. In many ways it is as if the whole 83 inches is sweet spot and the accuracy I can hit slice and flatter shots with is unparalleled... it makes my prestige seem like a game improvement frame... except I can CRUSH forehands and returns much harder. Problem is you have to really be set up and it's not the best for topspin serving.

Volleys are sublime, especially with the newer copoly strings. Im using black magic at 51 lbs. I can hit decent topspin ground strokes with it even but man you gotta set things up. I use mine for hitting against the wall because if I can prep the 200G my prep will be fine for anything.
 
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oldSchool

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I also have preordered 2 Bio Max 200G's. Have been polayting most recently with either the 200 Tour or the 400 Tour, depending on what I am having the most success with. The Max 200G sits right between the two in specs, so it should be perfect. I hope it has the feel of the Euro version Bio 100 I ordered from TW Europe befor the frame came to the states. When i was "on" it was fantastic, but ultimately proved too demanding. Don't know why, but I could never get into the 300 Tour, and sold mine after two weeks.
 
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mberrevoets

New User
I wouldn't string your 200G that high. stay in the 40s for sure. They are delicate and it would be a crying shame to crack one.
 
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