Nobody beats Schwartzman 10 times in a row

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Expected loss for Nadal, you can see he won't find form until the 2nd week of Roland Garros.
Its more the consistency, not the actual level.
He's striking the ball beautifully for several points in a row, but not for long enough.
 

SonnyT

Legend
Either Diego (more likely) or Denis will beat Novak on Monday!

Diego shouldn't pick Covid year to win his 1st M1000, they reduce winner's purse by about 80%!
 
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The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
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Tennease

Legend
I missed the match. Was he really good or was Nadal really bad?
Nadal was rather slow, hitting too many short moon balls that were waiting to be punished, hitting too many drop shots, hitting so many forehand long or wide.

Diego hit through the balls more with more power that bothered Nadal's forehand. Only occasionally Nadal hit winner down the line with his flick forehand utilising the power from Diego's shots.

Nadal hit too many unforced errors.

Diego hit many more winners than Nadal.

Nadal more defensive than Diego. Diego came forward more and volleyed as well.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
He was outstanding. Took it to Nadal. That said Nadal served like an amateur and was very sluggish movement wise. His BH return off the deuce side was dreadful. Basic issue was Nadal too deep in the court which gave Diego the time to dictate and he did so brilliantly. Fully deserved win.

There are a lot excuses that can be made if one is a Nadal fan: 44% first serves is perhaps the forst that comes to mind. But what should worry Nadal fans, is the sluggishness you mention. Rafa was just too slow at times, and that will not go unoticed.

Same goes for Novak. Not as sharp and quick as before.

There is blood in the water and sharks are hungry.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
He needed the slice to disrupt his adversary tempo; Nadal's groundstroke predictability was his worst punishment.
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WildRevolver

Hall of Fame
There are a lot excuses that can be made if one is a Nadal fan: 44% first serves is perhaps the forst that comes to mind. But what should worry Nadal fans, is the sluggishness you mention. Rafa was just too slow at times, and that will not go unoticed.

Same goes for Novak. Not as sharp and quick as before.

There is blood in the water and sharks are hungry.

I agree. Very concerned about how slow he looked.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
I agree. Very concerned about how slow he looked.

Still the overwhelming favorite at RG, but clay is the most physically gruelling of all surfaces. We are in completely uncharted waters here with a 34 year old going for #13?!! at RG... Who is the oldest man to win RG recently?... Agassi?
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Still the overwhelming favorite at RG, but clay is the most physically gruelling of all surfaces. We are in completely uncharted waters here with a 34 year old going for #13?!! at RG... Who is the oldest man to win RG recently?... Agassi?
Agassi was only 29 when he won RG. I'd have to explore to see who was older than Rafa (last year) to win it - or maybe, someone knows.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Agassi was only 29 when he won RG. I'd have to explore to see who was older than Rafa (last year) to win it - or maybe, someone knows.

Rosewall is the oldest male tennis player to win 7 matches at RG with 33 years, 7 months and 5 days; however Andrés Gimeno is the oldest RG champion in the Open Era: He was 34 years, 10 months and 1 day. He needed 6 victories to win the 1972 edition.
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Schwartzman was amazing today. There are some areas where Nadal was demonstrably under-par (ie serve) but he has been like that all week and still won easily.

Schwartzman is a phenomenally good returner on clay, and he made Nadal pay today.

He was also amazingly patient in rallies and he had the margin for error dialled in perfectly. There arent many people who can get the rally lengths long with Nadal without either making a mistake, over-hitting, or seeding too much court position, but Schwartzman got the balance spot-on.

it would be impossible to play Nadal like that in a Bo5 match, as it is too physically taxing, but Schwartzman showed the absolute textbook way to approach Nadal in Bo3. it was a great effort.
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
It's so bizarre, he's literally been playing like absolute garbage since the restart and somehow manages to GOAT against Nadal...and he really did perform at a high level, I wouldn't dream of taking that away from him. But, it was very, very strange given his recent performances.
 

TopspintheTerrible

Hall of Fame
Schwartzman was amazing today. There are some areas where Nadal was demonstrably under-par (ie serve) but he has been like that all week and still won easily.

Schwartzman is a phenomenally good returner on clay, and he made Nadal pay today.

He was also amazingly patient in rallies and he had the margin for error dialled in perfectly. There arent many people who can get the rally lengths long with Nadal without either making a mistake, over-hitting, or seeding too much court position, but Schwartzman got the balance spot-on.

it would be impossible to play Nadal like that in a Bo5 match, as it is too physically taxing, but Schwartzman showed the absolute textbook way to approach Nadal in Bo3. it was a great effort.

Schwartzman is a great clay court player & played extremely solid. Rafa played mediocre and served poorly.

This loss doesn’t mean much & Rafa is still the overwhelming favorite @ RG.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
LOL your title made me think about Roddick. Didn't he say after he beat Federer in Miami 2008 that nobody could beat him 12 times in a row?

Anyone knows what's the biggest number of consecutive wins of 1 player against the same player? I have Federer Youzhny 17-0. Fedeerer-Ferrer also17-0. Djokovic Monfils is also 17-0. Someone has more?
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
LOL your title made me think about Roddick. Didn't he say after he beat Federer in Miami 2008 that nobody could beat him 12 times in a row?

Anyone knows what's the biggest number of consecutive wins of 1 player against the same player? I have Federer Youzhny 17-0. Fedeerer-Ferrer also17-0. Djokovic Monfils is also 17-0. Someone has more?
I don't know, but poor Ferrer was the whipping boy for all 4 of the Big 4. Combined 17-73 record against them lmao.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
It's so bizarre, he's literally been playing like absolute garbage since the restart and somehow manages to GOAT against Nadal...and he really did perform at a high level, I wouldn't dream of taking that away from him. But, it was very, very strange given his recent performances.

I watched his loss against Djere last week (76 63). 2 completely different players, indeed
 
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