Non-hardcourt slams total

14 slams > 12

That is the only reasonable suggestion in your whole poast.

Olympic Gold > Bronze

Does Nadal have a Belgrade 250 title?

If not 250 Belgrade first place >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0

4 davis cup > 1

It is a team event and one where Nadal avoided playing anything else than clay and actually chickened out of a lot of important ties when they were not held on clay.

Also, never was in it from start to finish in the way Djokovic was.

69 titles > 66

Soon to be corrected just like the infamous H2H was.


10 consecutive years with a slam title

Do they give a special recognition for that?

A medal?

Or at least a (hot) plate.

At least 2 slams on each surface

Do they give a medal for that?

Or at least a chair.


Most titles at any one slam
Clear GOAT on a surface

You counted the same thing twice.

Desperate much?

Won a grandslam on clay, grass and hardcourt in same year

There is no such a thing and Ralphie failed to defend any title off of clay which directly refutes the point you are trying to make of him being a universal player.

Simply put, he ambushed better players for his vulture wins that is why he was never able to defend titles off clay.

hard sweep, grass sweep, clay sweep
9-2 vs Federer & 9-4 vs Djokovic in slam meetings
Etc.

Oh and Nole is hardcourt-skewed ;)

H2H that resulted from picking his opponents when on their weakest Major or/and not in best form.

Maybe the GVOAT (greatest vulture of all time)

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Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
With regular mention of "non-clay" tennis on the boards, which is stupid and just a way to diminish Nadal's accomplishments (even though he's won at least 2 slams on each surface), how about we turn the tables and talk about "non-hardcourt" tennis?
A better way to do it, putting aside your hilarious attempt to make some "natural surface" justification, would be to look at how players have done if you take away their favourite major.

Federer - 10 majors (17 minus his Wimbs)
Sampras - 7 majors (14 minus his Wimbs)
Djokovic - 6 majors (12 minus his AOs)
Nadal - 5 majors (14 minus his FOs)
Lendl - 5 majors (8 minus his FOs) < equal on 3 FO and USO wins but clearly did better at USO overall
Agassi - 4 majors (8 minus his AOs)

This gives a better idea of just how well accomplished Federer really is in tennis.
 

nadalfan2013

Professional
A better way to do it, putting aside your hilarious attempt to make some "natural surface" justification, would be to look at how players have done if you take away their favourite major.

Federer - 10 majors (17 minus his Wimbs)
Sampras - 7 majors (14 minus his Wimbs)
Djokovic - 6 majors (12 minus his AOs)
Nadal - 5 majors (14 minus his FOs)
Lendl - 5 majors (8 minus his FOs) < equal on 3 FO and USO wins but clearly did better at USO overall
Agassi - 4 majors (8 minus his AOs)

This gives a better idea of just how well accomplished Federer really is in tennis.

That has nothing to do with this thread. Read before you post.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
That has nothing to do with this thread. Read before you post.
It has everything to do with it. The thread was a lame pecious attempt by someone of moderate to low intelligence who is also a desperate Nadal fan thinking they had an idea with merit.

Sadly they did not, and my post was mocking that.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
It has everything to do with it. The thread was a lame pecious attempt by someone of moderate to low intelligence who is also a desperate Nadal fan thinking they had an idea with merit.

Sadly they did not, and my post was mocking that.
'modearte to low', ok... but you're still saying that this thread has been posted by some intelligent lifeform !
do you have any evidence to support that claim ? :eek:
 

cockneyDjoker

Hall of Fame
RAFA is better on his worst surface than Federer/Djokovic on their's
2 on grass compared to 1 each on clay

RAFA is also better on his best surface than Federer/Djokovic on their's
9 on clay compared to 8 on HCs and 7 on grass
Lets look at the FACTS shall we. Djokovic has a better record at 3/4 slams :):)

AO 6>>>>>>>>1 :p:p
Wimbledon 3>>>>>>.2 :D:D
US Open 2=2 Nole has made more finals

slams off clay 11>>>>>>>>>5

Nadal is not better than Novak on his best surface. Here's some reasons.

Rosol :):):)
Darcis :cool::cool::cool:
Kyrgios :D:D:D
Brown :eek::eek::eek:

Djokovic in contrast has reached at least the SF of RG since 2010, so your claim that Nadal is better on his worst surface than Nole is simply FANTASY.

Deal with it :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:p:p
 

cockneyDjoker

Hall of Fame
Lets look at the FACTS shall we. Djokovic has a better record at 3/4 slams :):)

AO 6>>>>>>>>1 :p:p
Wimbledon 3>>>>>>.2 :D:D
US Open 2=2 Nole has made more finals

slams off clay 10>>>>>>>>>5

Nadal is not better than Novak on his best surface. Here's some reasons.

Rosol :):):)
Darcis :cool::cool::cool:
Kyrgios :D:D:D
Brown :eek::eek::eek:

Djokovic in contrast has reached at least the SF of RG since 2010, so your claim that Nadal is better on his worst surface than Nole is simply FANTASY.

Deal with it :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:p:p
 
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