Clay... Nadal is 19:8... 70%
Hard... Novak is 20:7... 74%
Is Novak that good at hard, or Nadal is not that good on clay? Or is Nadal actually that bad on hard and Novak that good on clay?
Anyway, another great stat for The Goat...
Djokovic underperforms his average win% by 10% on HC and 50% on clay.Clay... Nadal is 19:8... 70%
Hard... Novak is 20:7... 74%
Is Novak that good at hard, or Nadal is not that good on clay? Or is Nadal actually that bad on hard and Novak that good on clay?
Anyway, another great stat for The Goat...
Djokovic hit like 66 UEs in that US'13 Final; RG this year was similar in that regard with Nadal hitting some 55 UEs.2-1, bud.
What VB!? Everyone left the building. The last week's Bullzillion exodus was absolutely massive.VB reading this like
Well considering Nadal has a godlike record on clay, it’s very impressive.70% to 74% is splitting hairs tbh.
more interesting, they played on each others surface 27 timesClay... Nadal is 19:8... 70%
Hard... Novak is 20:7... 74%
Is Novak that good at hard, or Nadal is not that good on clay? Or is Nadal actually that bad on hard and Novak that good on clay?
Anyway, another great stat for The Goat...
Yeah... Lol... Thread worth...more interesting, they played on each others surface 27 times
Sorry, we waited so long, let us fume...lots of insecurity in these multiple threads.
We get it, novak is goat, no need to beat a dead horse lol
As is Joker’s record since he’s the best HC player ever.Well considering Nadal has a godlike record on clay, it’s very impressive.
good.What VB!? Everyone left the building. The last week's Bullzillion exodus was absolutely massive.
Anyway, another great stat for The Goat...
So, 70%>74%Nadal has beaten Djoker in 2 USO finals in routine 4 setters. Not only has Nadal never lost in his 13 FO finals, he has never been extended to 5 sets. Nadal has no competition when discussing surface dominance, he’s in a tier all by himself. Novak has some nice stats too, but nothing that will stand forever like Rafa’s FO record.
Very true. The pity is that discussions on TTW get so partisan, they encourage a few noted, notorious trolls instead of a civil discussion. I mean, as a fan of BOTH Rafa and Novak , though I will ofc admit I root more for the latter, I get really taken aback by the through intellectual dishonesty on display by some "fans". Their focus seems more to hate Novak than to root for their champ.Nobody talks about ATP finals, but I think it's a huge hole in Nadal's career. It's the 5th most important tournament and many consider it as a 5th Major. Federer and Djokovic have each won it 5 or 6 times, Nadal 0.
He has also never won 3 important HC Masters1000... Miami, Bercy and Shanghaï (although he got Madrid on HC in 2005) and only 1 Cincinnati, whereas Djokovic already won all 3 clay Masters1000 twice or more.
I also agree that the H2H between them is quite biased if we look at the surfaces. The HC season is thrice longer than the clay season but they now have 27 matchs on each surface. They didn't even meet on HC between IW 2016 and AO2019, and outside of the ATP cup match, they haven't met since that AO final 3 years ago. They already played 6x on clay in the same time period. Are they ever gonna meet again in a big HC Slam or M1000 final?
So, 70%>74%
1. Nadal has really been a punching bag on HC for any genuinely good player on that surface for years now,
So you don't care about topic but post what you want? Can you give us something about your childhood?I’m talking about stats that are so dominant they will last forever. Not only have I already forgotten what this 74% > 70% thread is about about, I don’t think I ever knew or cared?
Nice prediction of a post which is 100% gonna come on this thread2-1, 4-3 bud get over it
The might not meet there again so this stat will always be used against Novak2-1, 4-3 bud get over it
10-7 bud in favour of RafaWhat is is their Slam h2h?
Djokovic has done so well against Nadal here in the last few years; I remember it was 9-3 for Rafa at some point.10-7 is much, much better10-7 bud in favour of Rafa
That's a good point.Both have 2 titles at the slams on the respective surfaces, but Novak hasn't lost at RG before QF since the end of Cretaceous lol, plus he also has more SF and F than Nadal at Wimbledon.I think 2 USO's going through Novak vs 1 RG going through Nadal makes it more favorable to Nadal I guess.
But Novak on clay >> Nadal on grass
Nadal actually has 26 clay Masters, as many as Djokovic has on HCs. And has 13 RGs, while Djoko has 12 HC Slams.Just shows what a joke the H2H statistic is. The hard court season is more than twice as long compared to clay and yet, the number of meetings on both surfaces between these guys is the same.
What is is their Slam h2h?
Nole had 2015-16 to claim 3 clay victories over rafa, otoh Rafa never had such time in nole's bad years to do so.Clay... Nadal is 19:8... 70%
Hard... Novak is 20:7... 74%
Is Novak that good at hard, or Nadal is not that good on clay? Or is Nadal actually that bad on hard and Novak that good on clay?
Anyway, another great stat for The Goat...
No, sir.Everyone left the building
He was playing pretty well in Rome 2016, sir. Not unlike how he played in any year between 2017 and 2020 on clay.Nole had 2015-16 to claim 3 clay victories over rafa, otoh Rafa never had such time in nole's bad years to do so.
Lol, in your posting we can see only pain... a lot of pain...Wow, "more dominant" Djokovic has 2 RG vs 13 for Nadal.
I can only imagine what would have been, if he was less dominant.
Lol, in your posting we can see only pain... a lot of pain...