Novak not victim.He is even protected at one stage.

[mistik]

First off all he is one lucky guy and unlike his fan base ı really think he is PROTECTED by no means victim at all. This guy in my book protected and to some extend promoted by the tennis media.The main reason is Fed and the GS record of Fed, Djokovic is the main reason Fed still holds the GS record. The matches Fed lost to him last years means NOTHİNG because Fed who also dopes nowadays doesnt supposed to win GS titles in his mid 30s anyway. Despite not being REALLY LOVED some group of people ( pretty large group Fed fans,Nadal haters ,Old establishment,tennis has to played like this group) thinks oh thanks god there is Novak otherwise Rafa would have the records by now,and he doesnt deserve it and it isnt healthy for the game according to them of course.That why Novak isnt attacked all that much like Rafa until recently.The big problem is Novak sudden rise to the top 2011 still remains the most strange stuff the game has ever seen. He was targeting retirement slam and then suddenly becomes a Terminator 2011.So what do ı mean ?? There is limit of everything to protect Novak to some extend despite being the most clear doper like cyclists is maybe finally comes to its end. If not Rafa a player his haters afraid like hell Novak would have been put on to the pieces waaayyyyy before this time around.

 

[Krish872007]

 

[NatF]

I'll never understand what compels people to post such badly written, long pieces of drivel.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I'll never understand what compels people to post such badly written, long pieces of drivel.

I would suggest lack of formal education, although that's probably more a cause than a compulsion.

 

[tennisaddict]

Are Darcis, Brown, Kyrgios, Fognini , Rosol part of this big conspiracy ?

 

[Pagoo]

I hope for humanity's sake the OP is not a member of a group or profession where making sense is a requirement. People's lives could well be in danger!

OP was attempting a rebuttal to the Djokovic entitlement thread, but somehow lost the plot when she remembered Federer is a doper.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I hope for humanity's sake the OP is not a member of a group or profession where making sense is a requirement. People's lives could well be in danger!

OP was attempting a rebuttal to the Djokovic entitlement thread, but somehow lost the plot when she remembered Federer is a doper.

OP should try not to operate heavy machinery.

 

[mistik]

Are Darcis, Brown, Kyrgios, Fognini , Rosol part of this big conspiracy ?

What the hell are you talking about ??

 

[Elessar]

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

 

[Russeljones]

Protected.
But not a Panda.
Yet.

 

[swordtennis]

Get back to us about doping when djokovic wins 9 Australian Open titles.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

 

[OhYes]

 

[beltsman]

Any time I see something that isn't reasonably well-written I immediately zone out.

 

[Sentinel]

Fed who also dopes nowadays

I thought he was always a dope.

Anyway, great post, very cogent arguments made by the OP.

I am convince.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Any time I see something that isn't reasonably well-written I immediately zone out.

What did you say?

 

[mistik]

Beautiful isnt it ?? Who wouldnt be amazed by the nature and all stuff in it ?? Look at the eyes.

 

[swordtennis]

I have several owl stories. I love owls.

 

[Krish872007]

Beautiful isnt it ?? Who wouldnt be amazed by the nature and all stuff in it ?? Look at the eyes.

I have several owl stories. I love owls.

Mesmerising. Can we hear some owl stories?

 

[swordtennis]

Mesmerising. Can we hear some owl stories?

Yes I will share them. Great horned owls. Fishing the Donner und Blitzen river eastern oregon. Back in 2000. Wild river and i mean wild. I was Litterally the only one on that river back then. Great horned owls were under the bank overhangs. I never noticed them for a few hours then I had a feeling I was being watched. So I started looking closer and all I would see was their huge eyes in the dark overhang caves on the river bank. They were just watching all day. Caught a load of native redbands. Left a couple small ones on the rock beds. Walk down stream out of view. Out flies a monster owl grabs the fish.

 

[4ever_maxi]

First off all he is one lucky guy and unlike his fan base ı really think he is PROTECTED by no means victim at all. This guy in my book protected and to some extend promoted by the tennis media.The main reason is Fed and the GS record of Fed, Djokovic is the main reason Fed still holds the GS record. The matches Fed lost to him last years means NOTHİNG because Fed who also dopes nowadays doesnt supposed to win GS titles in his mid 30s anyway. Despite not being REALLY LOVED some group of people ( pretty large group Fed fans,Nadal haters ,Old establishment,tennis has to played like this group) thinks oh thanks god there is Novak otherwise Rafa would have the records by now,and he doesnt deserve it and it isnt healthy for the game according to them of course.That why Novak isnt attacked all that much like Rafa until recently.The big problem is Novak sudden rise to the top 2011 still remains the most strange stuff the game has ever seen. He was targeting retirement slam and then suddenly becomes a Terminator 2011.So what do ı mean ?? There is limit of everything to protect Novak to some extend despite being the most clear doper like cyclists is maybe finally comes to its end. If not Rafa a player his haters afraid like hell Novak would have been put on to the pieces waaayyyyy before this time around.

First off all he is one lucky guy and unlike his fan base ı really think he is PROTECTED by no means victim at all. This guy in my book protected and to some extend promoted by the tennis media.The main reason is Fed and the GS record of Fed, Djokovic is the main reason Fed still holds the GS record. The matches Fed lost to him last years means NOTHİNG because Fed who also dopes nowadays doesnt supposed to win GS titles in his mid 30s anyway. Despite not being REALLY LOVED some group of people ( pretty large group Fed fans,Nadal haters ,Old establishment,tennis has to played like this group) thinks oh thanks god there is Novak otherwise Rafa would have the records by now,and he doesnt deserve it and it isnt healthy for the game according to them of course.That why Novak isnt attacked all that much like Rafa until recently.The big problem is Novak sudden rise to the top 2011 still remains the most strange stuff the game has ever seen. He was targeting retirement slam and then suddenly becomes a Terminator 2011.So what do ı mean ?? There is limit of everything to protect Novak to some extend despite being the most clear doper like cyclists is maybe finally comes to its end. If not Rafa a player his haters afraid like hell Novak would have been put on to the pieces waaayyyyy before this time around.

LOL. If there's someone suspicious of PEDs use and abuse during YEARS it's Nadal. Could you explain to me how he lost his muscles? he loses and gains muscles like anything, and for no reason. The cycles on and off Steroids and you know it.

 

[mistik]

LOL. If there's someone suspicious of PEDs use and abuse during YEARS it's Nadal. Could you explain to me how he lost his muscles? he loses and gains muscles like anything, and for no reason. The cycles on and off Steroids and you know it.

He hasnt had kind of a TARZAN body some people wants you to believe.I have seen him so many times watched his practice session. It is even fair to say he is more lean than muscular. I watch him since 2004 ı havent seen that much of a change in his body type. He was practicing sleeveless shirts in this years Miami and he looked exactly the way he looked in 2005. Body type also means NOTHİNG who is doper or not. Djokovic has the body type of cyclists and most of them are super LEAN not muscular at all.

 

[serve]

LOL. If there's someone suspicious of PEDs use and abuse during YEARS it's Nadal. Could you explain to me how he lost his muscles? he loses and gains muscles like anything, and for no reason. The cycles on and off Steroids and you know it.

He lost his muscles when exactly? He looks pretty much the same to me in the last 10 years, sometimes a little leaner, sometimes a little heavier ... unlike other players he never went through a total transformation in a short time.

 

[tennisaddict]

What the hell are you talking about ??

Try hard and find the common denominator between those players

 

[tennis_pro]

Without Djokovic both Federer and Nadal would've won a couple more Slams but Federer more.
Take Djokovic out and Fed either wins or becomes the favorite at the 2008 AO, 2011 AO, 2014 Wimbledon, 2015 Wimbledon, 2015 US Open, 2016 AO - 6 Slams. He'd also have a shot at Nadal in some of the Wimbledon/US finals back in 2010-2011.
Now Nadal would only benefit at 2011 Wimbledon, 2011 US, 2012 AO and maybe 2015 FO so that's another 3-4 Slams for Nadal.

 

[4ever_maxi]

He hasnt had kind of a TARZAN body some people wants you to believe.I have seen him so many times watched his practice session. It is even fair to say he is more lean than muscular. I watch him since 2004 ı havent seen that much of a change in his body type. He was practicing sleeveless shirts in this years Miami and he looked exactly the way he looked in 2005. Body type also means NOTHİNG who is doper or not. Djokovic has the body type of cyclists and most of them are super LEAN not muscular at all.

He lost his muscles when exactly? He looks pretty much the same to me in the last 10 years, sometimes a little leaner, sometimes a little heavier ... unlike other players he never went through a total transformation in a short time.

I wonder what will you come up with after this pictures...

ON steroids:

OFF steroids:

And you say he doesn't have body changes... yeah right. He goes from skinny and unfit to muscular and he claims he doesn't weight lift.

 

[mistik]

I wonder what will you come up with after this pictures...

ON steroids:

OFF steroids:

And you say he doesn't have body changes... yeah right. He goes from skinny and unfit to muscular and he claims he doesn't weight lift.

You are acting like small child. I can post you 2 pictures that is taken in the same weak he looks muscular in one of them and skinny in other. By the way ı have seen him in real life not just on TV. He is tall and lean. On TV he looks bulky and shorter.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

You are acting like small child. I can post you 2 pictures that is taken in the same weak he looks muscular in one of them and skinny in other. By the way ı have seen him in real life not just on TV. He is tall and lean. On TV he looks bulky and shorter.

Clearly you haven't read your OP.

 

[MLRoy]

I have several owl stories. I love owls.

Ever see the big one at Bohemian Grove?

 

[MLRoy]

I wonder what will you come up with after this pictures...

ON steroids:

OFF steroids:

And you say he doesn't have body changes... yeah right. He goes from skinny and unfit to muscular and he claims he doesn't weight lift.

That pic of him all wet makes me hungry for waffles. Hold the syrup. And the waffles.