NYT - Thiem, the hardest working man in tennis

falstaff78

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Great profile piece on DT in the NYT @Meles @stringertom

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/sports/tennis/dominic-thiem-the-hardest-working-man-in-tennis.html


HALLE, Germany — As Dominic Thiem has cemented his place this year as a rising star of men’s tennis, his quality has been matched with quantity.

Thiem, 22, attained his career-high ranking of No. 7 after reaching theFrench Opensemifinals. He has scored several notable victories along the way, pulling off the impressive double of beating Rafael Nadal on clay in Buenos Aires in February and Roger Federer on grass last week in Stuttgart, Germany.

But between his flashiest results, Thiem has labored through an unrelenting churn of matches at smaller tournaments, far surpassing the workload of any other man in the top 50. While other top players rest between the biggest events, Thiem has entered and won smaller tournaments, racking up four titles this year across all three surfaces and building up the third-best winning percentage on the tour.

Thiem’s 6-4, 6-1 victory over Teymuraz Gabashvili on Thursday here at the Gerry Weber Open was his 57th singles match this year, 10 more than top-ranked Novak Djokovic, who has the second most matches on tour.

“If you always experience new and better things than before, then you don’t get tired at all,” said Thiem, who got a break Friday when he moved into the semifinals with a walkover against Philipp Kohlschreiber. “This year, I have the feeling that every week I develop myself, and that’s a really happy situation for me.”

Federer, who has lost two of his three matches against Thiem this year, praised the young Austrian’s durability and consistency.

“I think young guys have to be able to do that,” Federer said of Thiem’s scheduling. “You’ve got to grind it out and get used to it. Then everything after that is easy. I spoke to him about his schedule coming up; he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s unbelievable to see how he’s backing it up, but I think he’s definitely playing with confidence right now.”

The grinding work ethic was instilled in Thiem from a young age by his coach, Gunter Bresnik, who would go to their training center near Vienna on Saturdays and Sundays for additional sessions. That emphasis on constant hard work has stayed with Thiem, even when his superlative ability could allow him to rest on his talent.

“I know that it’s necessary, and I don’t know something else,” Thiem said of the strenuous schedule. “Gunter, he did it with me for a very young age, and it was his plan that I get used to this because the tour is very hard. You have to take a lot, and he was preparing me from a very young age. Now it’s at a point where I don’t know anything else. Working hard, it’s like normal for me.”

Although Bresnik instilled the philosophy, he can no longer keep up with Thiem’s travel schedule, and is on a vacation this week. Joakim Nystrom, a Swedish coach who had previously worked with the Austrian tennis federation, now travels with Thiem for about 12 weeks of the year.

“He’s playing well, and he wants to play,” Nystrom said. “He went to Stuttgart, and of course he didn’t expect to win the tournament and beat Federer; he was more there to get used to the grass and hopefully have a decent Wimbledon. Then, confidence from the French Open and before that made him win that tournament. He’s very fit, he never complains that he’s tired, and I think he likes to play matches. And why not?”

Nystrom said that Thiem’s poorer results on grass in previous years had lowered expectations and pressure last week in Stuttgart — until Thiem found himself unexpectedly leading Federer, a seven-time Wimbledon champion, by 4-3 in the third set of the semifinals and having to wait through a rain delay.

“He looks at me and says, ‘Joakim, I was not supposed to feel any pressure coming here,’” Nystrom recalled. “‘Now, I am 4-3, break up, against Federer, the best grass-court player ever, I need to serve two good service games and I beat him. Now I feel pressure!’”

Pressure on Thiem will only continue to mount as he continues to raise his profile in the sport, entering a landscape with few other players his age. As Djokovic and Andy Murray near 30, a threshold Nadal and Federer have already passed, no younger players have been able to meaningfully join them atop the sport. Thiem attributed most of the stagnation of the wave of players now in their mid-20s to the steep incline presented by the game’s best.

“They were just unlucky that they played most of their careers at the peak of Djokovic, at the peak of Federer, Nadal and Murray,” Thiem said. “Those guys are just so good.”

Thiem recognizes that opportunities will come as the older generation ages out, but he wants to be able to improve himself to the point where he can compete with the current best while they’re still playing their best.

“For sure, Djokovic and Murray, and also the other two, they have a couple more very good years,” he said. “The goal for the young players, also me, has to be to compete with them at their peak. There’s nothing better than that level, so we have to work hard to be able to compete with them when they are at their peak.

“I’m really happy about the situation right now, but the thing is, you can never rest. You always have to continue working, because everybody is. Once you stop, the others will overtake you. I’m very happy how everything is, but at the same moment I try to make everything better.”
 
Good work from Thiem racking wins against both Rafa and Roger. It would have been great if he could have competed bettter with Djokovic at RG, but hopefully that kind of performance is around the corner.
 

meltphace 6

Hall of Fame
“I know that it’s necessary, and I don’t know something else,” Thiem said of the strenuous schedule. “Gunter, he did it with me for a very young age, and it was his plan that I get used to this because the tour is very hard. You have to take a lot, and he was preparing me from a very young age. Now it’s at a point where I don’t know anything else. Working hard, it’s like normal for me.”
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Great profile piece on DT in the NYT @Meles @stringertom

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/sports/tennis/dominic-thiem-the-hardest-working-man-in-tennis.html


HALLE, Germany — As Dominic Thiem has cemented his place this year as a rising star of men’s tennis, his quality has been matched with quantity.

Thiem, 22, attained his career-high ranking of No. 7 after reaching theFrench Opensemifinals. He has scored several notable victories along the way, pulling off the impressive double of beating Rafael Nadal on clay in Buenos Aires in February and Roger Federer on grass last week in Stuttgart, Germany.

But between his flashiest results, Thiem has labored through an unrelenting churn of matches at smaller tournaments, far surpassing the workload of any other man in the top 50. While other top players rest between the biggest events, Thiem has entered and won smaller tournaments, racking up four titles this year across all three surfaces and building up the third-best winning percentage on the tour.

Thiem’s 6-4, 6-1 victory over Teymuraz Gabashvili on Thursday here at the Gerry Weber Open was his 57th singles match this year, 10 more than top-ranked Novak Djokovic, who has the second most matches on tour.

“If you always experience new and better things than before, then you don’t get tired at all,” said Thiem, who got a break Friday when he moved into the semifinals with a walkover against Philipp Kohlschreiber. “This year, I have the feeling that every week I develop myself, and that’s a really happy situation for me.”

Federer, who has lost two of his three matches against Thiem this year, praised the young Austrian’s durability and consistency.

“I think young guys have to be able to do that,” Federer said of Thiem’s scheduling. “You’ve got to grind it out and get used to it. Then everything after that is easy. I spoke to him about his schedule coming up; he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s unbelievable to see how he’s backing it up, but I think he’s definitely playing with confidence right now.”

The grinding work ethic was instilled in Thiem from a young age by his coach, Gunter Bresnik, who would go to their training center near Vienna on Saturdays and Sundays for additional sessions. That emphasis on constant hard work has stayed with Thiem, even when his superlative ability could allow him to rest on his talent.

“I know that it’s necessary, and I don’t know something else,” Thiem said of the strenuous schedule. “Gunter, he did it with me for a very young age, and it was his plan that I get used to this because the tour is very hard. You have to take a lot, and he was preparing me from a very young age. Now it’s at a point where I don’t know anything else. Working hard, it’s like normal for me.”

Although Bresnik instilled the philosophy, he can no longer keep up with Thiem’s travel schedule, and is on a vacation this week. Joakim Nystrom, a Swedish coach who had previously worked with the Austrian tennis federation, now travels with Thiem for about 12 weeks of the year.

“He’s playing well, and he wants to play,” Nystrom said. “He went to Stuttgart, and of course he didn’t expect to win the tournament and beat Federer; he was more there to get used to the grass and hopefully have a decent Wimbledon. Then, confidence from the French Open and before that made him win that tournament. He’s very fit, he never complains that he’s tired, and I think he likes to play matches. And why not?”

Nystrom said that Thiem’s poorer results on grass in previous years had lowered expectations and pressure last week in Stuttgart — until Thiem found himself unexpectedly leading Federer, a seven-time Wimbledon champion, by 4-3 in the third set of the semifinals and having to wait through a rain delay.

“He looks at me and says, ‘Joakim, I was not supposed to feel any pressure coming here,’” Nystrom recalled. “‘Now, I am 4-3, break up, against Federer, the best grass-court player ever, I need to serve two good service games and I beat him. Now I feel pressure!’”

Pressure on Thiem will only continue to mount as he continues to raise his profile in the sport, entering a landscape with few other players his age. As Djokovic and Andy Murray near 30, a threshold Nadal and Federer have already passed, no younger players have been able to meaningfully join them atop the sport. Thiem attributed most of the stagnation of the wave of players now in their mid-20s to the steep incline presented by the game’s best.

“They were just unlucky that they played most of their careers at the peak of Djokovic, at the peak of Federer, Nadal and Murray,” Thiem said. “Those guys are just so good.”

Thiem recognizes that opportunities will come as the older generation ages out, but he wants to be able to improve himself to the point where he can compete with the current best while they’re still playing their best.

“For sure, Djokovic and Murray, and also the other two, they have a couple more very good years,” he said. “The goal for the young players, also me, has to be to compete with them at their peak. There’s nothing better than that level, so we have to work hard to be able to compete with them when they are at their peak.

“I’m really happy about the situation right now, but the thing is, you can never rest. You always have to continue working, because everybody is. Once you stop, the others will overtake you. I’m very happy how everything is, but at the same moment I try to make everything better.”
LOL. Just like Conan's wheel of pain (played by Arnie.) Thieman to show Thulsa Doom the riddle of steel soon. Djoko's sorcerer ways won't save him.:confused:

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Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Great profile piece on DT in the NYT @Meles @stringertom

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/sports/tennis/dominic-thiem-the-hardest-working-man-in-tennis.html


HALLE, Germany — As Dominic Thiem has cemented his place this year as a rising star of men’s tennis, his quality has been matched with quantity.

Thiem, 22, attained his career-high ranking of No. 7 after reaching theFrench Opensemifinals. He has scored several notable victories along the way, pulling off the impressive double of beating Rafael Nadal on clay in Buenos Aires in February and Roger Federer on grass last week in Stuttgart, Germany.

But between his flashiest results, Thiem has labored through an unrelenting churn of matches at smaller tournaments, far surpassing the workload of any other man in the top 50. While other top players rest between the biggest events, Thiem has entered and won smaller tournaments, racking up four titles this year across all three surfaces and building up the third-best winning percentage on the tour.

Thiem’s 6-4, 6-1 victory over Teymuraz Gabashvili on Thursday here at the Gerry Weber Open was his 57th singles match this year, 10 more than top-ranked Novak Djokovic, who has the second most matches on tour.

“If you always experience new and better things than before, then you don’t get tired at all,” said Thiem, who got a break Friday when he moved into the semifinals with a walkover against Philipp Kohlschreiber. “This year, I have the feeling that every week I develop myself, and that’s a really happy situation for me.”

Federer, who has lost two of his three matches against Thiem this year, praised the young Austrian’s durability and consistency.

“I think young guys have to be able to do that,” Federer said of Thiem’s scheduling. “You’ve got to grind it out and get used to it. Then everything after that is easy. I spoke to him about his schedule coming up; he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s unbelievable to see how he’s backing it up, but I think he’s definitely playing with confidence right now.”

The grinding work ethic was instilled in Thiem from a young age by his coach, Gunter Bresnik, who would go to their training center near Vienna on Saturdays and Sundays for additional sessions. That emphasis on constant hard work has stayed with Thiem, even when his superlative ability could allow him to rest on his talent.

“I know that it’s necessary, and I don’t know something else,” Thiem said of the strenuous schedule. “Gunter, he did it with me for a very young age, and it was his plan that I get used to this because the tour is very hard. You have to take a lot, and he was preparing me from a very young age. Now it’s at a point where I don’t know anything else. Working hard, it’s like normal for me.”

Although Bresnik instilled the philosophy, he can no longer keep up with Thiem’s travel schedule, and is on a vacation this week. Joakim Nystrom, a Swedish coach who had previously worked with the Austrian tennis federation, now travels with Thiem for about 12 weeks of the year.

“He’s playing well, and he wants to play,” Nystrom said. “He went to Stuttgart, and of course he didn’t expect to win the tournament and beat Federer; he was more there to get used to the grass and hopefully have a decent Wimbledon. Then, confidence from the French Open and before that made him win that tournament. He’s very fit, he never complains that he’s tired, and I think he likes to play matches. And why not?”

Nystrom said that Thiem’s poorer results on grass in previous years had lowered expectations and pressure last week in Stuttgart — until Thiem found himself unexpectedly leading Federer, a seven-time Wimbledon champion, by 4-3 in the third set of the semifinals and having to wait through a rain delay.

“He looks at me and says, ‘Joakim, I was not supposed to feel any pressure coming here,’” Nystrom recalled. “‘Now, I am 4-3, break up, against Federer, the best grass-court player ever, I need to serve two good service games and I beat him. Now I feel pressure!’”

Pressure on Thiem will only continue to mount as he continues to raise his profile in the sport, entering a landscape with few other players his age. As Djokovic and Andy Murray near 30, a threshold Nadal and Federer have already passed, no younger players have been able to meaningfully join them atop the sport. Thiem attributed most of the stagnation of the wave of players now in their mid-20s to the steep incline presented by the game’s best.

“They were just unlucky that they played most of their careers at the peak of Djokovic, at the peak of Federer, Nadal and Murray,” Thiem said. “Those guys are just so good.”

Thiem recognizes that opportunities will come as the older generation ages out, but he wants to be able to improve himself to the point where he can compete with the current best while they’re still playing their best.

“For sure, Djokovic and Murray, and also the other two, they have a couple more very good years,” he said. “The goal for the young players, also me, has to be to compete with them at their peak. There’s nothing better than that level, so we have to work hard to be able to compete with them when they are at their peak.

“I’m really happy about the situation right now, but the thing is, you can never rest. You always have to continue working, because everybody is. Once you stop, the others will overtake you. I’m very happy how everything is, but at the same moment I try to make everything better.”

Theim is the only young player with a champion's mind. He will be king of the next era. Guys like Zverev and Kyrigos may play well, but Theim is a type A boss and will hold them in their place.
 
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VexlanderPrime

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Theim is the only young player with a champion's mind. He will be king of the next era. Guys like Zverev and Kyrigos may play well, but Theim is a type A boss and will hold them in their place.

^ Not sure bout the Zverev part but totally agree that Theim makes the lost boys and some of the other younger crowd look like mental midgets. He's gonna be a top 10 guy for a long time I think.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
“I think young guys have to be able to do that,” Federer said of Thiem’s scheduling. “You’ve got to grind it out and get used to it. Then everything after that is easy. I spoke to him about his schedule coming up; he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s unbelievable to see how he’s backing it up, but I think he’s definitely playing with confidence right now.”

Ow awwogant of Woger to discuss his ThiemTable and approve it.
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
^ Not sure bout the Zverev part but totally agree that Theim makes the lost boys and some of the other younger crowd look like mental midgets. He's gonna be a top 10 guy for a long time I think.

Just saw the Zverev interview post-Federer win. He was very gracious and humble, the opposite of how he comes across on court. I was impressed. With that attitude, he will go far.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
Interesting player.

Before this year I didn't really think he could get past the top 20, but he's improved dramatically this year.

Huge power of both wings, solid serve, good backhand slice, nice touch at net.
I think he'll win a few GS if he keeps up that pace.
 

suwanee4712

Professional
If I had to pick, I would say that Thiem is the best of his generation. I think he is more driven and more disciplined. Zverev could be in the same category though. Kyrgios is bound to do something big in the sport not involving his mouth. But he has a long way to go in proving that he can stay focused enough to win at the highest level consistently. So talented, so brilliant, but I've seen this kind of player before.

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cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
What's the use of hard work when you don't have the talent to back it up?

Kyrgios will achieve better results than Thiem in their careers even if he only puts in 1/8th the work of Thiem.

You can't polish a turd - remember that.

I'd take talent over hard work any day of the week. When you're talented you always have the option of working hard. When you work hard, you don't have the option of being talented.

You need both talent and hard work to be a tennis great. That's why if you could bottle Kyrgios' raw talent with Thiem's work ethic then you would have an all time great.
We'll have to see how it all plays out between Thiem, Zverev and Kyrgios and see which one will be more successful. Right now, it's hard to tell. They all need to start beating the best players and win big titles and until they do so, talk is cheap.
 
Do you think that Thiem, while he has done very well overall, still has room for improvement against Djokovic and could beat him at a slam soon, or does he have a matchup issue there with the 1hbh and court positioning?
 
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