Official Wilson Clash thread

pete101

Professional
I was rushing my post but I was going to add "...for the non-expert player" but you just proved my point
What i realise comparing the v1 100 pro in stock form with no customisation vs the v2 100 is that at the top of the hoop of the v1 100 pro is a bit unstable like something is missing a bit of swingweight etc so i get why they stiffened up the top of the frame with forty five in the v2 but atva cost of comfort

My v2 vibrates so much comparatively and is not as comfortable but does perform better

The solution: put 2 layers of wilson racket saver tape over the v1 100 pro from 8 o clock to 4 o clock (basically cover all the grey and orange bits so the racket looks all black) layer them so that 1 is just above the grommet line and as close to the strings as possible and do the reverse on the other side so the overlap is minimal just the central part where the grommet strips slot in.

What you find is the racket is more stable has more swingweight BUT has little to no extra vibration it is like the perfect set up.

People dont customise so wilson made these adjustments to get better performance there doesn't seem to beca way to have a soft v1 clash and it still performing well without stiffening it somewhere apart from what i do above.

Because i never played with the v1 clash stock i had no idea what people were talking about until i recently took off the tape and tried it and immediately regretted doing so because it was perfect and now i have tried to duplicate it with new tape for some reason it doesnt feel quite the same even though the weight is exact 361g
 

Jono123

Semi-Pro
I recently ordered a Clash 100 Pro V2. Ive strung it with a multi at about 55 tension. I'm a long term Blade 18x20 user but developed arm issues and wanted a more comfortable frame but with decent plough through. I looked at many other frames before pulling the trigger on the Clash. What appealed was a more muted feel, power with compromising control. Hopefully the added string will help with that. It seems to have a generous sweetpot too which is a plus. I looked at the regular 100 but would only had to add weight so went with the bigger brother,. Ive watched all the videos and was debating about the Pro Staff X but that was 11.7Oz and too heavy. Hopefully this bad boy will fit the bill.
 
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pete101

Professional
I recently ordered a Clash 100 Pro V2. Ive strung it with a multi at about 55 tension. I'm a long term Blade 18x20 user but developed arm issues and wanted a more comfortable frame but with decent plough through. I looked at many other frames before pulling the trigger on the Clash. What appealed was a more muted feel, power with compromising control. Hopefully the added string will help with that. It seems to have a generous sweetpot too which is a plus. I looked at the regular 100 but would only had to add weight so went with the bigger brother,. Ive watched all the videos and was debating about the Pro Staff X but that was 11.7Oz and too heavy. Hopefully this bad boy will fit the bill.
The 100 and 100 pro are like completely different different RA diff string pattern diff balance

I even see a massive difference between the v1 100 pro and v2 100 allbeit i should really compare the v1 100 to v2 100 only

Launch angle is so high on the v2

And no way near as comfortable vibrates too much shock

Yours must be even worse but again you came down from a blade
 

Jono123

Semi-Pro
The reviews I've seen say the V2 Pro 100 has quite a low launch angle and is better for flatter shots. All of the advanced players using the 100 had leaded their rackets, which is why I went with the more stable Pro version.
 

pete101

Professional
Did anyone get one of those V1 100 clash earth day sustainable rackets?

They were going for like £380+ so $400+. There was a big sale on them i wish i bought one last year.

Does it play any different to the nornal V1 as it isnt painted and is one piece gloss finish by the looks of it?
 

pete101

Professional
The reviews I've seen say the V2 Pro 100 has quite a low launch angle and is better for flatter shots. All of the advanced players using the 100 had leaded their rackets, which is why I went with the more stable Pro version.
The pro version and v2 100 are not even comparable

Like you could compare the V1 100 to the v1 100 Pro as they are like red apples to red apples

The V2 100 to the V2 100 Pro is like comparing oranges to grapefruit lol
 

pete101

Professional
I was rushing my post but I was going to add "...for the non-expert player" but you just proved my point
How did your dad like the V2 108's btw?

I for one still hate it no matter what i do to dampen the vibration and shock it does not work

I stuck 70 rubber bands down the handle and put 2 shockshield replacement grips on it still does not dampen it enough esp when you hit the top of the frame where the FORTY FIVE is

Essentially the RA horizontal bend is like 63 but i cant imagine what the torsional bend is at just the top of the hoop where it is stiffer

Yeah the neck vertical bending might be comparable and the torsional at the neck but hitting the top of the frame is a recipe for disaster my tennis elbow gets aggravated whereas on the v1 108 nothing happens when it hits the top of the frame. Thuds. Comfortable.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
How did your dad like the V2 108's btw?

I for one still hate it no matter what i do to dampen the vibration and shock it does not work

I stuck 70 rubber bands down the handle and put 2 shockshield replacement grips on it still does not dampen it enough esp when you hit the top of the frame where the FORTY FIVE is

Essentially the RA horizontal bend is like 63 but i cant imagine what the torsional bend is at just the top of the hoop where it is stiffer

Yeah the neck vertical bending might be comparable and the torsional at the neck but hitting the top of the frame is a recipe for disaster my tennis elbow gets aggravated whereas on the v1 108 nothing happens when it hits the top of the frame. Thuds. Comfortable.

Partly because of what you said, I never ended up stringing them. Not sure what to do with them.
 

Jono123

Semi-Pro
The pro version and v2 100 are not even comparable

Like you could compare the V1 100 to the v1 100 Pro as they are like red apples to red apples

The V2 100 to the V2 100 Pro is like comparing oranges to grapefruit lol
Please explain....why are they so different.?
 

pete101

Professional
Please explain....why are they so different.?
Well for one the string pattern is different 16 x 20 vs 16 x 19, the weight is different and the stiffness and the balance.

The only thing similar is the underlying technology behind it that it 3D bends.

If they kept them the same RA + same string pattern then it be comparable
 

pete101

Professional
Untouched. Not sure what my club's return policy is, though.

I'm thinking maybe Blade v7 104 for him. My other club had a few of those on deep discounts.
Is the blade V7 104 high stiffness too?

What's wrong with him using a 108 V1 clash with a bit of customisation?

Best of both worlds.

I bought another v1 100 pro clash for future proofing myself should i get this strung or will it be ok if i leave it in storage for 5 years before i do something with it?

The idea is if my current one has issues or cracks or whatever i have a spare when it is no longer possible to get them
 

Jono123

Semi-Pro
I had a good hit with the Pro over the weekend. It feels quite light for its 11.5oz swing weight. I found myself hitting short a little or ripping it and going long.
I added a little lead at the 12 and it makes a big difference. Where this racket really shines is in returns, real depth and power. Volleys were great and ground strokes on both wings were quite easy.

There's a fairly muted feel which will help my TE. The one area where I found a lack of pop was the serve but that's just calibration. The pro is one of those rackets where you need to let it do the work. All in all quite impressed.
I felt control for a 100 head size racket was very good. That extra string must help, I've played extensively with the PD and this is more accurate.
 
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pete101

Professional
I had a good hit with the Pro over the weekend. It feels quite light for its 11.5oz swing weight. I found myself hitting short a little or ripping it and going long.
I added a little lead at the 12 and it makes a big difference. Where this racket really shines is in returns, real depth and power. Volleys were great and ground strokes on both wings were quite easy.

There's a fairly muted feel which will help my TE. The one area where I found a lack of pop was the serve but that's just calibration. The pro is one of those rackets where you need to let it do the work. All in all quite impressed.
I felt control for a 100 head size racket was very good. That extra string must help, I've played extensively with the PD and this is more accurate.
You should compare it to the V1 to see how different it is in every day

Also you're coming down from a stiffer racket to the v2

Not from a v1 to a v2 so your expectations of comfort is different to many of ours who went from v1 to v2
 

Jono123

Semi-Pro
TBH, after a couple of outings, I've grown to dislike the clash Pro. Dead feeling, small sweetspot, and clunky. Reminded me of a PD but without the benefits.

This one is going on ****.
 

canadad

Semi-Pro
I recently ordered a Clash 100 Pro V2. Ive strung it with a multi at about 55 tension. I'm a long term Blade 18x20 user but developed arm issues and wanted a more comfortable frame but with decent plough through. I looked at many other frames before pulling the trigger on the Clash. What appealed was a more muted feel, power with compromising control. Hopefully the added string will help with that. It seems to have a generous sweetpot too which is a plus. I looked at the regular 100 but would only had to add weight so went with the bigger brother,. Ive watched all the videos and was debating about the Pro Staff X but that was 11.7Oz and too heavy. Hopefully this bad boy will fit the bill.
This is me exactly, I just ordered a 100 Pro V2, and coming from a Blade 18x20. I ordered on the Black Friday sale, hopefully, I have better results than you. I have all sorts of arm issues, so I'm going to try a lot of configurations.
 

pete101

Professional
This is me exactly, I just ordered a 100 Pro V2, and coming from a Blade 18x20. I ordered on the Black Friday sale, hopefully, I have better results than you. I have all sorts of arm issues, so I'm going to try a lot of configurations.
Pro v2 is harsh the 100 v2 is harsh

Get the v1 100 pro and customise it with racker saver tape over the frame from 4 o clock to 7 o clock

2 layers

Thank me later
 

canadad

Semi-Pro
Pro v2 is harsh the 100 v2 is harsh

Get the v1 100 pro and customise it with racker saver tape over the frame from 4 o clock to 7 o clock

2 layers

Thank me later
We'll see, I have strung it up with Signum Pro Plasma Hextreme 17g at 52. I will try with multi as well.
 

pete101

Professional
Using a larger grip size has nothing to do with vibration. I have never put an undergrip below an outer grip to reduce shock and cannot address those questions. I use a larger grip for stability in my hand and so that I do not have to squeeze the grip so tightly when the racquet twists. Holding a racquet grip too tight is a common cause of tennis elbow. Generally, you want to use as large a grip as possible especially if you have tennis elbow or are prone to having it.
What blade did you say was really good for tennis elbow with a low RA?

I cant remember what version you said it was or from which year was it a 104?
 

Contrapuntal

New User
Does anyone know if any of the V2 Clash grommet sets would be compatible with the V1 Clash 100 Pro?

Mine are all cracked at the top, and it's causing strings to break early. No one (in Australia at least) is selling the V1 grommet sets anymore.

I know the V2 Pro is a different beast entirely, but would the standard V2 100 possibly fit?
 

gino

Legend
an homage to my all time favorite basketball player

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Looks awesome ! Good luck to your sixers tonight
 

pete101

Professional
Does anyone know if any of the V2 Clash grommet sets would be compatible with the V1 Clash 100 Pro?

Mine are all cracked at the top, and it's causing strings to break early. No one (in Australia at least) is selling the V1 grommet sets anymore.

I know the V2 Pro is a different beast entirely, but would the standard V2 100 possibly fit?
No cos it is a 16 20 string pattern
 

pete101

Professional
Has anyone compared the launch angle of the v2 100 vs v2 100 pro?

Is the 100 pro launch angle the same or lower than the v2 100?

I need to decide what tension to go on the 100 pro v2
 

Contrapuntal

New User
No cos it is a 16 20 string pattern
That's the V2 Pro. The standard V2 100 is 16 x 19, same as the V1 Pro.

I ended up buying a set to try it out - I'd have had to throw the racquets out otherwise, with how often the strings were breaking.

The spacing on some of the crosses towards the top was different, but I just cut part of the new ones off, and cut and kept the equivalent from the old set. It was only the 6 or 8 top/middle mains that had split, so it wasn't an issue.

Not a perfect replacement then, but a viable option for anyone with a V1 that can't source original grommets.
 

omglawlz

New User
Got tired of looking at the original paintjob of red/grey/black so I decided to spray a couple of my clash v1 tours today. I didn't realize you can get some nice color shifting paint in one can, I always thought the process would be complicated. I think they turned out pretty nice.
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This looks amazing! What black paint did you use? It looks like it exactly matches the stock black
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Hi everyone- it seems that the V3 Clash must be just around the corner. The V2 should be on run out deals soon:
Is there anything you would like to see happen with the V3 Clash and are you more partial to the softer V1 racquets or the more focused V2 Line.
I would like to hit with a Clash in a Pro Staff 97 315g spec or even an RF:
 

omglawlz

New User
I can't understand how he got the logo and spec numbers looking so clean
I believe he mentioned that he didn't spray over the areas that were originally already black (like the logo and spec area), however he did spray over the Wilson logo side.

That's why I wonder what black paint he used, because it looks like it color-matched exactly the stock black!
 

Yamin

Hall of Fame
Hi everyone- it seems that the V3 Clash must be just around the corner. The V2 should be on run out deals soon:
Is there anything you would like to see happen with the V3 Clash and are you more partial to the softer V1 racquets or the more focused V2 Line.
I would like to hit with a Clash in a Pro Staff 97 315g spec or even an RF:
Do you have any info?

I'd like to see something closer to the v1 in the Clash.. doubt they will have a 315 with the new Federer line coming out. I'm guessing Federer line might be something along the lines of Clash v2 + Prostaff along with whatever those grommets were at bottom..
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Do you have any info?

I'd like to see something closer to the v1 in the Clash.. doubt they will have a 315 with the new Federer line coming out. I'm guessing Federer line might be something along the lines of Clash v2 + Prostaff along with whatever those grommets were at bottom..
Not yet that I can share
 

Yamin

Hall of Fame
Not yet that I can share
Mostly just hoping the stiff racket face doesn't make it into this line. Would probably kill it off for the existing player base. Thinner beam would be nice on the 98. V2 felt chunky and and didn't have the magic. V1 98 was really poor on volley. Something between V1 and V2 would be good.

I'm still on V1 and looking for an upgrade, but its hard to replace
 

pete101

Professional
So in conclusion from my extensive play with the clashes

Is i really like the v2 clash 100 pro, but my preference is still the v1 100 pro comfort wise

I customised the v2 100 pro with a shockshield replacement grip, rubber bands in the handle and 3 custom rubber rings around the neck of the handle on the top on top of each other + shockshield dampener, did not add any weight to the head wasnt needed

This dampens the vibration a lot so it is only a few percent less comfy than the v1 100 pro (which also have rubber bands inside) 1 3 overgrips on each.

I like the extra cross gives me the control i need as am a flat hitter

What i am.unsure about is the v2 100 launches so high and whether it i go really tight on the strings it'll lower the launch.

It is like comparing apples to oranges to pears the v1 pro vs v2 pro vs v2 100 and cos they are all different tensions hard to know until i get them all restrung

But still the problem with the clash is it is hard to maneuver inside out forehands with the extra weight if the ball is voming fast which is why i prefer the blade 100 heavily customised

I have managed to make that only 5% less comfy than the v1 100 pro but has 25% better perfomance both power and spin despite similar set ups.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Hi everyone- it seems that the V3 Clash must be just around the corner. The V2 should be on run out deals soon:
Is there anything you would like to see happen with the V3 Clash and are you more partial to the softer V1 racquets or the more focused V2 Line.
I would like to hit with a Clash in a Pro Staff 97 315g spec or even an RF:

I understand they have to keep refining it. But the v1 was unlike anything else. I think they should continue selling it as the Clash Classic or something.
 

zuzu70

New User
I understand they have to keep refining it. But the v1 was unlike anything else. I think they should continue selling it as the Clash Classic or something.
Agree, for sure. I think Wilson is missing a great opportunity if they don't take your suggestion. Maybe with a more tasteful color scheme this time; that gaudy orange on the top was just yuck.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Agree, for sure. I think Wilson is missing a great opportunity if they don't take your suggestion. Maybe with a more tasteful color scheme this time; that gaudy orange on the top was just yuck.

Yup. PK have been selling the 5/7g for literally 20 years now. No reason Wilson couldn't do the same here.

The new Clash is nice but it's not the same
 

sharif

Rookie
I understand they have to keep refining it. But the v1 was unlike anything else. I think they should continue selling it as the Clash Classic or something.
I play with the clash 100 V2 but keep hearing better things about the V1.. I realized when I demoed that I actually demoed my friend's v1 not the v2 which is a shame bc it felt great & apparently is less stiff than the v1..
 

pete101

Professional
Do you have any info?

I'd like to see something closer to the v1 in the Clash.. doubt they will have a 315 with the new Federer line coming out. I'm guessing Federer line might be something along the lines of Clash v2 + Prostaff along with whatever those grommets were at bottom..
What is the federer line coming out?

They need to make the beam thinner in the 100 pro's but then it would become a blade so..

The whole point of a clash is having the low RA 55 if they made the beam thinner will it prob not play as well or lack power?

I liked the v2 100 pro with its 16x20 pattern still prefer the V1 for the comfort though
 
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