Opinions on Wilson RF97 Autograph 340g

J B

Semi-Pro
I use the RF57A and am always 58/59 mains and 56/57 crosses with gut and alu rough. If you used it for weeks before you felt anything you are fine. Or its not the stick. The power on the RF is much more controlled and i like it way better than the clash or blade.

its made for 57-59 and 55/57 and toss in some power pads. Just sounds so much better to go PPs and no dampener.
 
I use the RF57A and am always 58/59 mains and 56/57 crosses with gut and alu rough. If you used it for weeks before you felt anything you are fine. Or its not the stick. The power on the RF is much more controlled and i like it way better than the clash or blade.

its made for 57-59 and 55/57 and toss in some power pads. Just sounds so much better to go PPs and no dampener.

How’s the general feel at that tension? Worried it may be too high - was thinking 56/53


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Pro-tech

New User
Hi All

I just bought the Wilson RF97 Autograph 340g and I am battling a little with it...

I had the Clash Tour before and I liked it but I was battling with certain aspects of my game - like volleys and penetration through the court - I found I was swinging hard all the time and serving fewer aces... strings where Luxilon Alu power 50lbs...

But I could play 10 sets of tennis a week and zero impact on my arm..

So now I am using the RF97 and I am starting to feel my arm now and it’s been a weeks use... also I am not hitting the ball in the middle of the racquet... so it has a weird feel if you don’t connect perfectly...

The RF is strung with Luxilon Alu power on mains at 48 and crosses with Wilson Comfort at 53

I don’t seem to mind the weight that much and maybe my arm is still adjusting to the different frame?

What I do like about the RF97 is the control - but I don’t really notice a power difference between the Clash and RF - I was hoping to gain more power and feel with the RF...

Maybe my strings are wrong and tension? I know Fed uses gut on mains at 59 and Luxilon Alu rough crosses at 56...

So should I try this configuration? Will this setup help with feel and comfort?

Must say I am a tad worried I’ll end up with Tennis elbow....

Thanks Guys

* I did post this on another group so some of you may have already seen this post... just wasn’t sure if I posted in the correct forum. Apologies...

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You're not going to get a power boost by switching to a racket that is heavier and demands more from technique. If you can't hit the court with this racket and not care about the weight. I think most players would struggle with this racket. This racket actually gave me more control and subtle power. This a racket for someone with a very full swing. If you don't get turned this racket doesn't want to move. Once you are able to do this you will see power and ball speed. I think you're outclassed using this racket. Move to something lighter .
 

Pro-tech

New User
Your strings are irrelevant. Alu power strung at that tension will provide the most pop of any string. So how could you ask for more power from the string bed? Tennis elbow, I've used 12 ounce(+) rackets forever. I've never had tennis elbow. I think too many players are using this frame for the fan boy part of the thrill. Ultimately this racket is a terrible move for anyone not at least a strong 4.5 and that's being generous. More like 5.0 and above. My last racket was 12.5 ounces strung and I have recently changed to this frame. I absolutely love it. The feel and compression you get from the weight makes this racket feel like a true tool! the feel from the stiffness and weight let's me feel the ball on the stringbed so well. So what's misleading is weight does transfer into power, but it also transfers into stability, feel, control. All this is increased. This is an amazing racket if you are an advanced player. I wouldn't buy it unless you're already using a 12 ounce racket or your strokes are very developed.
 

Pro-tech

New User
i strung mine at 52/49 to start with alu power, it felt very good. The slightly more open string pattern than my previous racket made the string bed feel a bit softer, so I could go up a few pounds, but I did feel a little extre power. Lower tensions easier on the arm.
 
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J B

Semi-Pro
I use the RF57A and am always 58/59 mains and 56/57 crosses with gut and alu rough. If you used it for weeks before you felt anything you are fine. Or its not the stick. The power on the RF is much more controlled and i like it way better than the clash or blade.

its made for 57-59 and 55/57 and toss in some power pads. Just sounds so much better to go PPs and no dampener.

I love it. People that havent hit with high tension have no idea what they are missing.

I love how pro-tech feels he is good enough to us it but others arent. The racquet does not make you a better player. I have An APD and hit just as well i just like the heavy ball the rf97A brings. The simple comment that string are irrelevant should tell you how much thought to put into any comments.

Granted I can see where he is going here with the string comment but the rating has nothing to do with it. Some people have great swingds just dont or havent played enough
 
You're not going to get a power boost by switching to a racket that is heavier and demands more from technique. If you can't hit the court with this racket and not care about the weight. I think most players would struggle with this racket. This racket actually gave me more control and subtle power. This a racket for someone with a very full swing. If you don't get turned this racket doesn't want to move. Once you are able to do this you will see power and ball speed. I think you're outclassed using this racket. Move to something lighter .

Outclassed? Seriously it’s a racquet! I play just fine with it - all I am concerned about is string type and tension

Tonight I played with older balls and I battled a bit with the power - I switched to my spare which has less ball time so the tension was a bit higher - I realized tonight that this racquet will do well with a higher tension

Obviously if I played with new balls the difference may not have been noticeable - but I was amazed as to how the 2 racquets played so differently - the spare felt lighter as well yet they weigh exactly the same - weird.

The racquet felt almost too light... I kept on picking up the other one to compare...

Must say I don’t really have any arm pains anymore - I think it was just an adjustment period my arm went through coming from a lighter racquet and different balance...


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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Without question the frame was developed with Gut/poly in the frame. All of the initial test frames that Roger hit with we’re strung with his choice so the development was not void of a Gut/poly influence.
 

KYHacker

Professional
A couple of things. I started playing at age 12 when ALL racquets were as heavy as the RF97A. But, the RF97A has a unique feel due to high SW, high static weight, high twist weight, and high stiffness. All of those out together cause it to swing differently than other heavy player’s frames— at least that’s my experience. Closest frames that I have played with have been Dunlop Aerogel 4d 200 Tour and Prince Original Graphite 107. RF97A feels like those two had a baby.

I think most people are highly mistaken about who can or should play with this frame. I don’t think level has much to do with it. It’s more about technique. it doesn’t require a long swing. What is does require is a shorter take back and more shoulder turn than a lighter racquet. You cannot “arm” this racquet unless you are very strong. But, it’s quite easy to move this racquet using hip and shoulder turn. The extra weight is not even a factor if your strokes are based on that. I think a beginner would do just fine starting out with this racquet, but their strokes would be very different than someone starting out with a 300g racquet with low SW.

The RF97A is definitely THE most strung sensitive racquet that I have played with. I didn’t really believe the commentators when they mentioned that gut/poly is the way to go with this frame but I’m a believer now. Much more than any other frame I’ve used, it just feels “better” with the gut poly and the control is improved. It also makes a very different sound that immediately lets you know exactly how well you have struck the ball (I don’t use dampeners.). The upside is that I now have 10 hours on one frame and there is very little wear on the stringbed and playability has improved from when fresh. Looks like I will get 25 hours out of this which makes it cheaper than full multi or full poly since those last at most 10 hours.
I would start at 55/53.
 

GD1976

New User
I play RF97A for several years. I tried many poly. The frame is made for Gut / Poli. It is a waste of money on the poly itself. I have been playing Gut / Poli for a long time and I will not change it for another configuration :)
 

Anton

Legend
Hi All

I just bought the Wilson RF97 Autograph 340g and I am battling a little with it...

I had the Clash Tour before and I liked it but I was battling with certain aspects of my game - like volleys and penetration through the court - I found I was swinging hard all the time and serving fewer aces... strings where Luxilon Alu power 50lbs...

But I could play 10 sets of tennis a week and zero impact on my arm..

So now I am using the RF97 and I am starting to feel my arm now and it’s been a weeks use... also I am not hitting the ball in the middle of the racquet... so it has a weird feel if you don’t connect perfectly...

The RF is strung with Luxilon Alu power on mains at 48 and crosses with Wilson Comfort at 53

I don’t seem to mind the weight that much and maybe my arm is still adjusting to the different frame?

What I do like about the RF97 is the control - but I don’t really notice a power difference between the Clash and RF - I was hoping to gain more power and feel with the RF...

Maybe my strings are wrong and tension? I know Fed uses gut on mains at 59 and Luxilon Alu rough crosses at 56...

So should I try this configuration? Will this setup help with feel and comfort?

Must say I am a tad worried I’ll end up with Tennis elbow....

Thanks Guys

* I did post this on another group so some of you may have already seen this post... just wasn’t sure if I posted in the correct forum. Apologies...

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If you are having problem generating power with loosely strung RF97 then a racket is not your problem.
 

Bagel Boy

Rookie
A couple of things. I started playing at age 12 when ALL racquets were as heavy as the RF97A. But, the RF97A has a unique feel due to high SW, high static weight, high twist weight, and high stiffness. All of those out together cause it to swing differently than other heavy player’s frames— at least that’s my experience. Closest frames that I have played with have been Dunlop Aerogel 4d 200 Tour and Prince Original Graphite 107. RF97A feels like those two had a baby.

I think most people are highly mistaken about who can or should play with this frame. I don’t think level has much to do with it. It’s more about technique. it doesn’t require a long swing. What is does require is a shorter take back and more shoulder turn than a lighter racquet. You cannot “arm” this racquet unless you are very strong. But, it’s quite easy to move this racquet using hip and shoulder turn. The extra weight is not even a factor if your strokes are based on that. I think a beginner would do just fine starting out with this racquet, but their strokes would be very different than someone starting out with a 300g racquet with low SW.

The RF97A is definitely THE most strung sensitive racquet that I have played with. I didn’t really believe the commentators when they mentioned that gut/poly is the way to go with this frame but I’m a believer now. Much more than any other frame I’ve used, it just feels “better” with the gut poly and the control is improved. It also makes a very different sound that immediately lets you know exactly how well you have struck the ball (I don’t use dampeners.). The upside is that I now have 10 hours on one frame and there is very little wear on the stringbed and playability has improved from when fresh. Looks like I will get 25 hours out of this which makes it cheaper than full multi or full poly since those last at most 10 hours.
I would start at 55/53.

I cannot like this comment enough.

 

J B

Semi-Pro
A couple of things. I started playing at age 12 when ALL racquets were as heavy as the RF97A. But, the RF97A has a unique feel due to high SW, high static weight, high twist weight, and high stiffness. All of those out together cause it to swing differently than other heavy player’s frames— at least that’s my experience. Closest frames that I have played with have been Dunlop Aerogel 4d 200 Tour and Prince Original Graphite 107. RF97A feels like those two had a baby.

I think most people are highly mistaken about who can or should play with this frame. I don’t think level has much to do with it. It’s more about technique. it doesn’t require a long swing. What is does require is a shorter take back and more shoulder turn than a lighter racquet. You cannot “arm” this racquet unless you are very strong. But, it’s quite easy to move this racquet using hip and shoulder turn. The extra weight is not even a factor if your strokes are based on that. I think a beginner would do just fine starting out with this racquet, but their strokes would be very different than someone starting out with a 300g racquet with low SW.

The RF97A is definitely THE most strung sensitive racquet that I have played with. I didn’t really believe the commentators when they mentioned that gut/poly is the way to go with this frame but I’m a believer now. Much more than any other frame I’ve used, it just feels “better” with the gut poly and the control is improved. It also makes a very different sound that immediately lets you know exactly how well you have struck the ball (I don’t use dampeners.). The upside is that I now have 10 hours on one frame and there is very little wear on the stringbed and playability has improved from when fresh. Looks like I will get 25 hours out of this which makes it cheaper than full multi or full poly since those last at most 10 hours.
I would start at 55/53.


stop it... only 5.0s are supposed to with a racquet of this class.
 

polksio

Semi-Pro
Exactly how does this grading work - I mean what’s 1.0 vs 5.0 and where does it end? What level is RF...?




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1 just started
3 can rally slowly
4 can rally fast and has a serve
4.5 can rally fast and can score aces against other 4s
5 can put up a fight in futures and challengers

After that its blurry but the max is 7 so Fed is a 7
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
How’s the general feel at that tension? Worried it may be too high - was thinking 56/53


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Sweet spot for me is 57/54-58/55
Klip Legend 1.30/ BHBZ 1.25
VS Touch 1.30/ 4g 1.25
*Pre stretch mains and extended pull time on poly cross.
 
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1 just started
3 can rally slowly
4 can rally fast and has a serve
4.5 can rally fast and can score aces against other 4s
5 can put up a fight in futures and challengers

After that its blurry but the max is 7 so Fed is a 7

Ok then I am a 4.5 then...


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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Anyone find a full multi set up in the RF97 that plays well? Looking for a less expensive option but something easy on the arm for teaching.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
The RF97 is the most string sensitive frame I have ever used. It’s like that frame was made for Gut/poly.

It was like the Frame was made for some Tennis Star. It really is a demanding fine tuned racquet. It loves long full smooth strokes. You need to have good body mechanics. Going from the Clash Tour/Pro to the RF97 is a huge change. Glad your timing improved at that was one of two points. The other was your string choices. You have to have some forgiveness in a racquet. With the Clash it is the frame so you can get away with risky strings. RF97 you need just a little forgiveness in the strings. I agree it plays best with Natural Gut. In a pinch I might try Head Velocity or Techifibre Triax normally just a full bed versus hybrid.

Changing racquets often throws off timing just enough to cause increased stress on ones joints. Even micro misshits add up.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
It was like the Frame was made for some Tennis Star. It really is a demanding fine tuned racquet. It loves long full smooth strokes. You need to have good body mechanics. Going from the Clash Tour/Pro to the RF97 is a huge change. Glad your timing improved at that was one of two points. The other was your string choices. You have to have some forgiveness in a racquet. With the Clash it is the frame so you can get away with risky strings. RF97 you need just a little forgiveness in the strings. I agree it plays best with Natural Gut. In a pinch I might try Head Velocity or Techifibre Triax normally just a full bed versus hybrid.

Changing racquets often throws off timing just enough to cause increased stress on ones joints. Even micro misshits add up.

That Technifibre Triax is an interesting string that would probably hit well in the RF97. I am at $17-$18 a frame with Gut/poly and with the longevity it’s hard to get away from that set up.
No doubt, the RF97 is more like a pro stock frame than any I have seen. It is apparent that the development of this frame included Gut/poly.
Sure has become difficult to find grommets for the 2017-2019 frames.
 

Arak

Legend
The RF97 is my main racket. I string it with full bed NXT at 57. Anything below that is difficult to control so I disagree with the multi at 53-55 recommendations. It is the most comfortable and stable racket I have ever used. I recommend that the OP keeps on using it exclusively until he gets familiar with its balance and properties. Once that happens, there is absolutely no comparison with the Clash or the Blade. The RF97 is in a class of its own.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
The RF97 is my main racket. I string it with full bed NXT at 57. Anything below that is difficult to control so I disagree with the multi at 53-55 recommendations. It is the most comfortable and stable racket I have ever used. I recommend that the OP keeps on using it exclusively until he gets familiar with its balance and properties. Once that happens, there is absolutely no comparison with the Clash or the Blade. The RF97 is in a class of its own.

57 or 58 seems to be the magic in the RF97. Some of my original RF97’s recommended Champion's Choice or NXT. Turns out they got it right.
 

Icsa

Semi-Pro
Anyone find a full multi set up in the RF97 that plays well? Looking for a less expensive option but something easy on the arm for teaching.

Prince Premier Control 16 at 58 is great as a full bed with Babolat string savers. Plays consistently well until it breaks. The black version is slightly lower in power.
 
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Mischko

Professional
Hi Massimo, hi all

I play with RF97A since the beginning, and with other 340/345g Wilsons before that, but RF97A is very different from those other frames. My strings in RF97A don't last much, 2-4h maybe, but I hit hard. It is a particular racquet, and I've learned a lot over the years.

Roger was asked "speed or rotation" and he instantly exclaimed "Rotation!", and beside more rotation he wanted significantly more power from his new 97 sq in frame, so that he doesn't lose overall speed when giving a lot of brush on the ball. RF97A is stiff, that provides power, and torsionally stiff and stable, with slightly wider string spacing for more rotation on the ball. So not exactly ideal for flat hitters, because its stiffness is compensated with rotation - or more precisely - string snap back. That means mains sliding on crosses when you hit the ball with some rotation. Roger even uses low friction material string savers between gut mains and ALU crosses, so that gut slides more easily over the crosses. That sliding of mains provides significant softness and give on impact. Gut is exceptionally elastic and soft, and is like that all the way until it breaks. If you string gut in mains and ALU in crosses and then hit completely flat with full power it won't feel soft, because gut isn't sliding on the crosses to provide softness and shock absorption so you'll feel mostly ALU, that can feel brassy or boardy in a stiff frame. So you need some rotation for snap back. That is why you can easily see Roger always attacking the ball with rotation on those slow motion videos on yt, and why statistics say that players with most rpm on the ball are 1. Rafa, 2. Roger. When the ball dips and jumps "into the nose" of the opponent it is significantly more difficult to return than a flat ball, and if you're Roger approaching the net, you'll get a higher volley as well.

If you use poly strings, even stiff ones, but that provide great snap back, it will also work great. It will be controlled, and not boardy nor too stiff. However, most poly strings are slick and slippery only when new. Well known examples are RPM Blast with its silicone coating that wears off in 20 minutes, Revolve and Revolve Spin, Poly Tour Pro and most others. When they lose their coating after 20 minutes they lose most of the snap back and then it feels too stiff and sometimes boardy. You can try and compensate with a softer tension, to get more snap back, but RF97A is a stiff heavy power frame, and if you string it too soft you will definitely lose control. Balls will fly out, and you'll find yourself forced to spin to keep them in. Strings that I found best to keep their snap back, sliding and tension are Head Hawk Touch and Head Lynx Tour, but they do require some harder hitting. Hawk Touch works really great for me, definitely best trajectories when hitting 100%, all the way until it breaks. I string them at 27kg/60lbs, but both Hawk Touch and Lynx Tour are control strings and can easily be strung lower. For players who want poly but aren't hard hitters I'd suggest Isospeed Grey Fire, slightly softer than other two but still great. And Hawk Touch is actually made by Isospeed for Head, both are Austrian companies.

As for Luxilon ALU, 4G or Original, they give a stiff-like crisp feel, and can feel too stiff if you're not hitting hard enough. Many modern racquets have stiff hoops, that makes them string sensitive, RF97A is also like that. Best example are Yonex Vcore Pro 97's, they really don't like higher tension with poly. I'd definitely suggest Luxilon Element for crosses, I personally use Hawk Touch on crosses when I string gut on mains, and that combo really lasts a lot, Hawk Touch keeps the slick mantle all the way, so it doesn't saw into the gut, and feels less brassy or stiff than ALU but provides total control like ALU.

I definitely agree with the comment that you have to correctly play with your whole body, mass and legs to play with RF97A, excellent comment. You have to anticipate the incoming ball, always, always. The frame is heavy and very demanding, so it instinctively makes you think about your swing/arms, so you forget the legs/mass/body, but instead you should "forget" your swing/arms and think about your legs/mass/body to play nicely with it, which can be counterintuitive.

Also, it is super well dampened, and I would really be surprised if you got an injury or soreness from RF97A. The weight and some aramid fibers in the layup, both help a lot to absorb vibrations. Different other frames gave me tiredness, injury and soreness but I always return to RF97A to feel good again in the arm and shoulder.

@USPTARF97

Yesterday I just installed new grommets on my 2016 black RF97A's, but not original ones, those were out of stock for years it seems, but these new ones, intended for this new v13 paintjob. The product code number is different too. They fit perfectly, are 1g lighter, 23g old vs 22g new, which I like a lot, since my RF97A's are 3g too heavy in the head from the factory (343g). It was never a particular problem since I mostly use 1.25 strings (17 grams) but when I string 1.30 strings (21 grams) it feels sluggish. I compared them in detail, and they are identical, only the silver "W" insert on the bottom on the side is very slightly different, a completely negligible difference. Even the polymer material seems identical. I bought 6 so I'm happy now.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Hi Massimo, hi all

I play with RF97A since the beginning, and with other 340/345g Wilsons before that, but RF97A is very different from those other frames. My strings in RF97A don't last much, 2-4h maybe, but I hit hard. It is a particular racquet, and I've learned a lot over the years.

Roger was asked "speed or rotation" and he instantly exclaimed "Rotation!", and beside more rotation he wanted significantly more power from his new 97 sq in frame, so that he doesn't lose overall speed when giving a lot of brush on the ball. RF97A is stiff, that provides power, and torsionally stiff and stable, with slightly wider string spacing for more rotation on the ball. So not exactly ideal for flat hitters, because its stiffness is compensated with rotation - or more precisely - string snap back. That means mains sliding on crosses when you hit the ball with some rotation. Roger even uses low friction material string savers between gut mains and ALU crosses, so that gut slides more easily over the crosses. That sliding of mains provides significant softness and give on impact. Gut is exceptionally elastic and soft, and is like that all the way until it breaks. If you string gut in mains and ALU in crosses and then hit completely flat with full power it won't feel soft, because gut isn't sliding on the crosses to provide softness and shock absorption so you'll feel mostly ALU, that can feel brassy or boardy in a stiff frame. So you need some rotation for snap back. That is why you can easily see Roger always attacking the ball with rotation on those slow motion videos on yt, and why statistics say that players with most rpm on the ball are 1. Rafa, 2. Roger. When the ball dips and jumps "into the nose" of the opponent it is significantly more difficult to return than a flat ball, and if you're Roger approaching the net, you'll get a higher volley as well.

If you use poly strings, even stiff ones, but that provide great snap back, it will also work great. It will be controlled, and not boardy nor too stiff. However, most poly strings are slick and slippery only when new. Well known examples are RPM Blast with its silicone coating that wears off in 20 minutes, Revolve and Revolve Spin, Poly Tour Pro and most others. When they lose their coating after 20 minutes they lose most of the snap back and then it feels too stiff and sometimes boardy. You can try and compensate with a softer tension, to get more snap back, but RF97A is a stiff heavy power frame, and if you string it too soft you will definitely lose control. Balls will fly out, and you'll find yourself forced to spin to keep them in. Strings that I found best to keep their snap back, sliding and tension are Head Hawk Touch and Head Lynx Tour, but they do require some harder hitting. Hawk Touch works really great for me, definitely best trajectories when hitting 100%, all the way until it breaks. I string them at 27kg/60lbs, but both Hawk Touch and Lynx Tour are control strings and can easily be strung lower. For players who want poly but aren't hard hitters I'd suggest Isospeed Grey Fire, slightly softer than other two but still great. And Hawk Touch is actually made by Isospeed for Head, both are Austrian companies.

As for Luxilon ALU, 4G or Original, they give a stiff-like crisp feel, and can feel too stiff if you're not hitting hard enough. Many modern racquets have stiff hoops, that makes them string sensitive, RF97A is also like that. Best example are Yonex Vcore Pro 97's, they really don't like higher tension with poly. I'd definitely suggest Luxilon Element for crosses, I personally use Hawk Touch on crosses when I string gut on mains, and that combo really lasts a lot, Hawk Touch keeps the slick mantle all the way, so it doesn't saw into the gut, and feels less brassy or stiff than ALU but provides total control like ALU.

I definitely agree with the comment that you have to correctly play with your whole body, mass and legs to play with RF97A, excellent comment. You have to anticipate the incoming ball, always, always. The frame is heavy and very demanding, so it instinctively makes you think about your swing/arms, so you forget the legs/mass/body, but instead you should "forget" your swing/arms and think about your legs/mass/body to play nicely with it, which can be counterintuitive.

Also, it is super well dampened, and I would really be surprised if you got an injury or soreness from RF97A. The weight and some aramid fibers in the layup, both help a lot to absorb vibrations. Different other frames gave me tiredness, injury and soreness but I always return to RF97A to feel good again in the arm and shoulder.

@USPTARF97

Yesterday I just installed new grommets on my 2016 black RF97A's, but not original ones, those were out of stock for years it seems, but these new ones, intended for this new v13 paintjob. The product code number is different too. They fit perfectly, are 1g lighter, 23g old vs 22g new, which I like a lot, since my RF97A's are 3g too heavy in the head from the factory (343g). It was never a particular problem since I mostly use 1.25 strings (17 grams) but when I string 1.30 strings (21 grams) it feels sluggish. I compared them in detail, and they are identical, only the silver "W" insert on the bottom on the side is very slightly different, a completely negligible difference. Even the polymer material seems identical. I bought 6 so I'm happy now.

That is a problem I have been having, can’t find grommets. Will order some. Thanks
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for the tip! When I strung the racquets I had the idea to put the polys in the crosses but the stringer had other ideas...

Always thought that was a mistake personally...


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ditch that stringer man. They should string what is asked for and not be a jerk about it.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Hi Massimo, hi all

I play with RF97A since the beginning, and with other 340/345g Wilsons before that, but RF97A is very different from those other frames. My strings in RF97A don't last much, 2-4h maybe, but I hit hard. It is a particular racquet, and I've learned a lot over the years.

Roger was asked "speed or rotation" and he instantly exclaimed "Rotation!", and beside more rotation he wanted significantly more power from his new 97 sq in frame, so that he doesn't lose overall speed when giving a lot of brush on the ball. RF97A is stiff, that provides power, and torsionally stiff and stable, with slightly wider string spacing for more rotation on the ball. So not exactly ideal for flat hitters, because its stiffness is compensated with rotation - or more precisely - string snap back. That means mains sliding on crosses when you hit the ball with some rotation. Roger even uses low friction material string savers between gut mains and ALU crosses, so that gut slides more easily over the crosses. That sliding of mains provides significant softness and give on impact. Gut is exceptionally elastic and soft, and is like that all the way until it breaks. If you string gut in mains and ALU in crosses and then hit completely flat with full power it won't feel soft, because gut isn't sliding on the crosses to provide softness and shock absorption so you'll feel mostly ALU, that can feel brassy or boardy in a stiff frame. So you need some rotation for snap back. That is why you can easily see Roger always attacking the ball with rotation on those slow motion videos on yt, and why statistics say that players with most rpm on the ball are 1. Rafa, 2. Roger. When the ball dips and jumps "into the nose" of the opponent it is significantly more difficult to return than a flat ball, and if you're Roger approaching the net, you'll get a higher volley as well.

If you use poly strings, even stiff ones, but that provide great snap back, it will also work great. It will be controlled, and not boardy nor too stiff. However, most poly strings are slick and slippery only when new. Well known examples are RPM Blast with its silicone coating that wears off in 20 minutes, Revolve and Revolve Spin, Poly Tour Pro and most others. When they lose their coating after 20 minutes they lose most of the snap back and then it feels too stiff and sometimes boardy. You can try and compensate with a softer tension, to get more snap back, but RF97A is a stiff heavy power frame, and if you string it too soft you will definitely lose control. Balls will fly out, and you'll find yourself forced to spin to keep them in. Strings that I found best to keep their snap back, sliding and tension are Head Hawk Touch and Head Lynx Tour, but they do require some harder hitting. Hawk Touch works really great for me, definitely best trajectories when hitting 100%, all the way until it breaks. I string them at 27kg/60lbs, but both Hawk Touch and Lynx Tour are control strings and can easily be strung lower. For players who want poly but aren't hard hitters I'd suggest Isospeed Grey Fire, slightly softer than other two but still great. And Hawk Touch is actually made by Isospeed for Head, both are Austrian companies.

As for Luxilon ALU, 4G or Original, they give a stiff-like crisp feel, and can feel too stiff if you're not hitting hard enough. Many modern racquets have stiff hoops, that makes them string sensitive, RF97A is also like that. Best example are Yonex Vcore Pro 97's, they really don't like higher tension with poly. I'd definitely suggest Luxilon Element for crosses, I personally use Hawk Touch on crosses when I string gut on mains, and that combo really lasts a lot, Hawk Touch keeps the slick mantle all the way, so it doesn't saw into the gut, and feels less brassy or stiff than ALU but provides total control like ALU.

I definitely agree with the comment that you have to correctly play with your whole body, mass and legs to play with RF97A, excellent comment. You have to anticipate the incoming ball, always, always. The frame is heavy and very demanding, so it instinctively makes you think about your swing/arms, so you forget the legs/mass/body, but instead you should "forget" your swing/arms and think about your legs/mass/body to play nicely with it, which can be counterintuitive.

Also, it is super well dampened, and I would really be surprised if you got an injury or soreness from RF97A. The weight and some aramid fibers in the layup, both help a lot to absorb vibrations. Different other frames gave me tiredness, injury and soreness but I always return to RF97A to feel good again in the arm and shoulder.

@USPTARF97

Yesterday I just installed new grommets on my 2016 black RF97A's, but not original ones, those were out of stock for years it seems, but these new ones, intended for this new v13 paintjob. The product code number is different too. They fit perfectly, are 1g lighter, 23g old vs 22g new, which I like a lot, since my RF97A's are 3g too heavy in the head from the factory (343g). It was never a particular problem since I mostly use 1.25 strings (17 grams) but when I string 1.30 strings (21 grams) it feels sluggish. I compared them in detail, and they are identical, only the silver "W" insert on the bottom on the side is very slightly different, a completely negligible difference. Even the polymer material seems identical. I bought 6 so I'm happy now.

The only grommets I can find are $24.99.
 

Mischko

Professional
on TWE, where I bought them, they now have them as incoming on March 5th
Wilson Pro Staff RF97 V13.0 Grommet6,00€5.3.
 
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