Federer has been bestowed the GOAT honour no matter what anyone else does.On Good Morning Britain today the reporter said Emma Radnucanu is emulating the likes Federer and Serena to win her first slam as a teenager!!!!
The Federer propaganda is so indelible that people don't even bother to check the facts anymore because they've been told for so long that Federer has broken all the records and he is the greatest player to ever pick up a racquet.
When did you concede?Federer has been bestowed the GOAT honour no matter what anyone else does.
I have never believed that there can be a GOAT. The narrow criteria of slam count is ridiculous but it's not up to me if the pundits and the media continue to promote Federer as the GOAT regardless. That's a fact. I'm just trying to convince those who engage in endless GOAT debates that the statistics don't matter. Federer has been promoted as the GOAT for nearly 20 years; it' ingrained in the psyche of the global casual tennis fan and nothing will change now.When did you concede?
Was it a specific article/episode/whatever...? Or just more of a general "preponderance of the evidence" sort of thing.
I accept the things I cannot change, try to change the things I can and hope I can tell the difference.When did you concede?
Was it a specific article/episode/whatever...? Or just more of a general "preponderance of the evidence" sort of thing.
Margaret Court retired in 1977 with 24 slams. That's 44 years ago and people are still arguing about who is the female GOAT. Slam count cannot be the defining factor, imo.All these "free" and "subjective" interpretations and perspectives on who is the Goat will be possible until it's 20-20-20 and someone from those 3 doesn't make a more substantial lead in the Slam count.
Love to see the bold anti-intellectualism from FFW.GQ, for instance, is not particularly apologetic about it. lol
lol, glad to see you enjoying the "brand," fan.Love to see the bold anti-intellectualism from FFW.
Kinda cuts against your entire brand, doesn't it?
Until we have a TIGER that is "Regardless" then it is all subjective and opinions.Trying to argue about who is the GOAT is like hitting your head against a brick wall. For me the GOAT is Nadal. He isn't for many but they also have a right to think who is the GOAT for them.
No, Roger gifted me the subscription on accident thinking it was a match pointlol, glad to see you enjoying the "brand," fan.
Now are you up to date on your subscription dues?
You see that?No, Roger gifted me the subscription on accident thinking it was a match point
Rod Laver never helped me find a purpose. I have massive respect for him, though.You see that?
You are indebted to the GOAT for helping to find you a purpose.
You knew just where to turn.Rod Laver never helped me find a purpose. I have massive respect for him, though.
The photographer did not do Roger justice, that's for sure. Maybe it's a power move though. It doesn't matter how you look when you're Roger Federer.Is anyone going to point out that if you slapped a wig on old Fed he’d make the perfect evil witch in the Snow White remake?
Back on topic: BudgeGOAT
Trying to argue about who is the GOAT is like hitting your head against a brick wall. For me the GOAT is Nadal. He isn't for many but they also have a right to think who is the GOAT for them.
I have never believed that there can be a GOAT.
For me the GOAT is Nadal.
No! Nadal's fan are the most humble and know the odds are against them and they respect that. But for THEM he's a GOAT because they love him/his style of play/whatever.The essence of the Nadal fan demonstrated in two quotes.
For all of you watching tennis since the 80s: My personal GOAT is Pete Sampras! What a legend. He had 14 Grand Slams competing across multi-generational grand slam winners (McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, Connors, Agassi, Chang, Stich, Muster, Kuerten, Rafter, Hewitt, Krajicek, Korda, Henman) across truly diverse surfaces.The GOAT has been basically decided since 2009 for the general public. The GOAT for actual tennis fans is subjective on whatever you choose to value more. people who are stat junkies lean towards Djokovic as he leads in all important stats, people who are impressed by consistent domination of a surface lean towards Nadal, and people who value things like elegance, shot-making, and how good a player looks while playing, lean towards Federer.
Really? I would have never imagined that.Trying to argue about who is the GOAT is like hitting your head against a brick wall. For me the GOAT is Nadal. He isn't for many but they also have a right to think who is the GOAT for them.
My dad would agree with you.For all of you watching tennis since the 80s: My personal GOAT is Pete Sampras! What a legend. He had 14 Grand Slams competing across multi-generational grand slam winners (McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, Connors, Agassi, Chang, Stich, Muster, Kuerten, Rafter, Hewitt, Krajicek, Korda, Henman) across truly diverse surfaces.
Truth of the matter is she rejects the notion of a GOAT to begin with.Really? I would have never imagined that.
Sponsored by UNIQLOIndeed. All the bickering here has no impact on the general outsider's view.
Fact is the GOAT has been decided by the masses, and it won't be changing anytime soon.
Still, our goats are our goats. Mine is Nadal. Ain't no rhetoric, from TTW, other tennis 'enthusiasts' or outsiders gonna change that.
BTW, love that little logo making its way in there. Federer's way of making up for not going to Tokyo lol.
The essence of this Nadal fan is that if it was up to me I don't think there can be a GOAT but as it isn't up to me, as far as the GOAT debate goes, I would say Nadal is the GOAT, because I accept the things I cannot change, try to change the things I can and hope I can tell the difference.The essence of the Nadal fan demonstrated in two quotes.
The essence of this Nadal fan is that if it was up to me I don't think there can be a GOAT but as it isn't up to me, as far as the GOAT debate goes, I would say Nadal is the GOAT, because I accept the things I cannot change, try to change the things I can and hope I can tell the difference.
Goat is Federer or Nadal. Go to any sporting event where sports is generally discussed and Federer and Nadal get mentioned.Trying to argue about who is the GOAT is like hitting your head against a brick wall. For me the GOAT is Nadal. He isn't for many but they also have a right to think who is the GOAT for them.
This is exactly the reality. Selective statistics are meaningless; it's all about impact and for this era Federer and Nadal have made the biggest impact on the sport. Borg and MEnroe caught the imagination of their era but no other players did until Federer and Nadal. Sampras and Agassi were rivals but they didn't have a lasting legacy on the sport.Goat is Federer or Nadal. Go to any sporting event where sports is generally discussed and Federer and Nadal get mentioned.
Djokovic is not in the discussion. He is the Connors of this era. The 80s and 70s is all Borg/Mcenroe. Connors had the longesst stint at no.1 and more majors than Mcenroe and even was closer in age to Borg i think yet the perception of that era was the Borg/Mcenroe era.
after the failed cygs attempt sadly this era will be Nadal and Federer. No menage a trois here
Absolutely nailed it. Spot onThis is exactly the reality. Selective statistics are meaningless; it's all about impact and for this era Federer and Nadal have made the biggest impact on the sport. Borg and MEnroe caught the imagination of their era but no other players did until Federer and Nadal. Sampras and Agassi were rivals but they didn't have a lasting legacy on the sport.