klementine
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^ Yes. Agreed.
The flex accepts the extra weight beautifully.
The flex accepts the extra weight beautifully.
\I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.
Where exactly are you placing the lead? Your sig mentions "top half of the hoop"; are you putting one strip all the way from 3 to 9 or are you using some other configuration? Are you counterbalancing at all on the handle? Agree that lead helps with this frame; just tinkering now an where best to put it and how much. Thanks.
When I started serving with EXO Tours I felt like I had no feel, no spin and no power on serves. But with lead, time and adjustments my serves are again a big weapon I remember them to be with ADP. I guess it's possible I just overall started serving better by working more on my serve, but I doubt.
I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.
The sharp POP from ADP and the silky smooth feel of Tours are very different, both their own flavor that takes time to get used to. After 3-4 months I feel very much at home with the Tours - a perfect blend of smooth comfort and feedback.
When I started serving with EXO Tours I felt like I had no feel, no spin and no power on serves. But with lead, time and adjustments my serves are again a big weapon I remember them to be with ADP. I guess it's possible I just overall started serving better by working more on my serve, but I doubt.
I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.
The sharp POP from ADP and the silky smooth feel of Tours are very different, both their own flavor that takes time to get used to. After 3-4 months I feel very much at home with the Tours - a perfect blend of smooth comfort and feedback.
Specs are in my sig....
Although I have lost some power due to the change... I have gained more comfort and versatility... I can make up that power loss due to the ease of swing... getting higher bat-speeds.
The nice 19mm beam.. coupled with a soft flex... and a tight (although more open compared to the PresMid) accepts the added weight perfectly and is not 'overpowering'.
NOTE: I tried lead at 12... but just like my experiences with other frames... is not for me... too much power... only flat-serves were 'easier'... I had to really exaggerate a top-spin stroke to keep the ball in... and I really prefer to hit out in front and flat.
Now since the k-blade is relatively flexible...
Does anyone have any experience when comparing the wilson k-blade98 to the exo tour 100? Power and serves especially, since this seems to be the only real problem when it comes to the tour.
First of all, the Blade isn't that flexible. It's a 67RA, which is comparable to an Aero Storm GT (another pretty stiff frame). Is it flexible compared to the Black? Yes, but you'll notice a lot more flex-and I mean a lot more-when you hit the Tour.
As for power, I just hit with a friend's Blade yesterday. The power level is comparable to the Tour, except the Tour is a lot more solid (and, of course, spin-friendly). Because of the spin and flex, though, I had the ability to place the ball much better than I did with the Blade. Serving, OTOH, is pretty easy with the Blade-it comes through the ball quickly and is pretty good for flat firsts. The Tour took me longer to adjust to, but it whips through contact really quickly now and offers me all the spin I need. I finally got flat serves dialed in with it as well, and while it is lower powered than the Blade is on serve, I can serve bigger and better with the Tour than I can with the Blade.
I think the blade really feels flexible to me cause, with this racket, i tend to hit higher up on the stringbed, where most movement can occur. It certainly feels like the most flexible frame i've played with outside of wood, alliminium or the 03 tour(previous gold racket).
After having had some success with my serve with the 03 black, the blade really felt weak in this department. I guess i need time to adapt...But I'm starting to think that the weak strings i put in the blade, really contributed to the lack in power also. It also seems as if generally, i play better with all my rackets once the strings has worn a bit. Why is this? Is my start off tension too high? (58-60)
I am convinced and have no doubt i will have a better second serve with the tour 100.... Maybe i will resort to accuracy being the main objective on the first - slicing and so forth...I guess you win some, you lose some with each and every racket on the market. Maybe i should not completely remove the exo black from the equasion either.
4 inches of lead x2 @ 3 o'clock and 4 inches of lead x2 @ 9 o'clock using the 1/4-inch wide lead tape. 1-inch = 0.25 grams
7-8lb differences in main/cross tension. Understand the poly is probably stiffer than the gut even at lower tensions but does this size of tension differential have an impact on the frame?
Out of interest, do you use stringsavers?
Had a chat with one of the Prince techs this afternoon.
Think I'm now going to go with either 50:44 or 52:46. Babolat stringsavers for sure as I'm going to use either BHBR or BHSR as the crosses. Also, I'm hoping that the stringsavers will help the mains slide and give me some of the spin back that I'm expecting to lose from leaving an a full poly bed.
Noticed that even playing at such low tensions recently, my elbow and forearm are starting to ache. Age, poly or both - not sure, but hopefully gut mains will help.
Had a chat with one of the Prince techs this afternoon.
Think I'm now going to go with either 50:44 or 52:46. Babolat stringsavers for sure as I'm going to use either BHBR or BHSR as the crosses. Also, I'm hoping that the stringsavers will help the mains slide and give me some of the spin back that I'm expecting to lose from leaving an a full poly bed.
Noticed that even playing at such low tensions recently, my elbow and forearm are starting to ache. Age, poly or both - not sure, but hopefully gut mains will help.
Did you talk to the Prince guy specifically about main/cross tension differential? I'd be curious what he had to say about a 7-8lb difference.
I get as much spin or even more from the gut/poly hybrid as I do from full poly in the same stick.
As for string savers, having never used them before I decided to start with the Federer pattern starting on the 5th cross, but I am doing 3 crosses instead of just 2. This seems to cover the area where I was getting all the notching.
mxmx until you use the racquet, you are just wasting time going in circles. No one knows how you hit, what power level you hit at, what your game is like. I am not sure what to tell you, but I hate the K Blade compared to the EXO.
If you hit long in matches you will like the EXO. You may need to spend some time with the stick to get used to it, but it is a pleasurable experience. I forget why you have not ordered the racquet yet, but there is nothing more anyone can tell you about it until you actually use one.
Don't string savers make the string bed stiffer, hence causing the strings to slide less?
OK folks I stumbled upon a GOAT setup for this racquet.
I previously had the stick setup with Black Magic mains and BAM crosses in the low 50s and dropping to the high 40s after a session. It was real nice, but way too much power, and my hands automatically adjust, so I was gripping very western to keep the ball in. My ideal grip is between SW and Western and I always noticed my grip going past that after a rally. As a result, I was hitting with too much spin and not through the ball as much as I prefer.
I have to be honest, I am have just 2 grams of lead on 3 and 9 and the sticks serves just as big as any racquet I have owned.
The secret is to just let the racquet do the work and don't try to crush the ball. The EXO rewards a loose arm so much, that it is kind of surprising. So Klem, I believe you can have the EXO "swing itself" even at stock weight, it just takes practice. The EXO swings so light that it is super tempting to overswing and try to kill the ball. You want to just be nice and relaxed and stay loose. I believe the leaded up version made you do that. But with the racquet lighter, you still can, and the racquet head speed will be much greater.
I thought for sure that my serve pace would suck, but it is easily as good as with any other stick for me. The difference is the amount of spin is ridiculous.
Well another way to look at it, you could also just not muscle the ball. Swing loose..especially on serve. This is when the racquet really shines IMO. Whenever you get the racquet, definitely try the N vy crosses. The 16 gauge adds control and pop to the stick. I have zero power issues. Winners were very easy to hit.
I think what happens is some people string low tension poly and are having trouble finishing points off since they can't drive the ball as much, so they think the EXO is low powered. But with the synth gut cross at around 58-60#s and a poly at around 53 or so, power will not be an issue.
I'm demoing the EX03 Tour and tried it for the first time tonight. I'm a 4.25 and love cranking heavy topspin forehands from the baseline. My first impressions of the stick is that it's like a weapon -- it's deadly when you catch it right on, but disastrous on mis hits. A big part of the reason may be because I'm used to a hybrid poly set up and the demo is strung with Gamma TNT -- not sure what tension.
I think that if I get the racquet and add a bit of lead tape and string it up with some poly (maybe midrange), I'll really like it. Do you think that will make a big difference?