Prince exO3 Tour Advice

skeeter

Professional
\I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.

Where exactly are you placing the lead? Your sig mentions "top half of the hoop"; are you putting one strip all the way from 3 to 9 or are you using some other configuration? Are you counterbalancing at all on the handle? Agree that lead helps with this frame; just tinkering now an where best to put it and how much. Thanks.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
Welp... had a hit today with Champion's Choice.. Gut mains (52) and the alu crosses (50).

It wasn't anything that wow'd me from the get go. I enjoy hitting full poly in this frame from the first hit.

But, as full poly's performance and characteristics have a declining effect, this set-up seemed to be the opposite.

I was enjoying the power... but was disappointed with the spin.. at first. Compared to the full poly set-ups that I have used... such as BBO,Beast,SPPP 17l and as of late 18g TB.. the ball has a definite straight path and high to medium kick.. depending on technique,tension and string. But these attributes quickly fade.

With gut in the mains (wilson gut) and the aluR in the crosses.. the ball had a very low-path associated with it.. it would not kick up as the polys would but... balls had a crooked, swerve like path to them, as soon as they crossed the net, they would veer off their straight path, dip low and kick off the court at a very low angle... almost like a curve ball from a pitcher.

To resemble the high-kicks of a full poly set-up I had to work a little harder.

Overall, I'm impressed with this set-up... the gut seems to have tightened-up?? or at least become more firm... and the alu has started to loose a couple of pounds... so the sweetspot feels a mile long and thunderous.

I enjoyed hitting flatter strokes... where I didn't enjoy it as much as a full poly set-up was on kick serves and extreme reverse forehands... thankfully... my game is not based around these two shots.

Gut is a strange breed indeed. It seems to get better with time and pounding... the complete opposite with the poly set-ups.

One other aspect was also welcomed... after two hours.. I was still looking forward to hitting ground-strokes with this set-up. Two hours with any poly set-up and you're kind-of questioning the sensation coming off the strings.. sometimes it feels warm and inviting... and other times cold and harsh. This set-up felt richer and warmer the longer I played...

Hope that sounded logical....
 
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Anton

Legend
Where exactly are you placing the lead? Your sig mentions "top half of the hoop"; are you putting one strip all the way from 3 to 9 or are you using some other configuration? Are you counterbalancing at all on the handle? Agree that lead helps with this frame; just tinkering now an where best to put it and how much. Thanks.

I have about 4 total grams in 4 strips on 3 and 9 and the rest distributed evenly above that with small strips like this:

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You can't beat VS mains and copoly cross, the perfect combo. Though I have not tried this in the exo3 tour, I have VS mains with SPPP in the cross on my PSTGT and it plays great.
 

Ross K

Legend
When I started serving with EXO Tours I felt like I had no feel, no spin and no power on serves. But with lead, time and adjustments my serves are again a big weapon I remember them to be with ADP. I guess it's possible I just overall started serving better by working more on my serve, but I doubt.


I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.

The sharp POP from ADP and the silky smooth feel of Tours are very different, both their own flavor that takes time to get used to. After 3-4 months I feel very much at home with the Tours - a perfect blend of smooth comfort and feedback.

Thanks very much Anton.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
But with a swingweight of 322 it should be better stock than that, and as power varies with swingweight it's not surprising you like it now.

I think people are buying it for feel, which is fine, but only if you want the lead would you want the racquet.



When I started serving with EXO Tours I felt like I had no feel, no spin and no power on serves. But with lead, time and adjustments my serves are again a big weapon I remember them to be with ADP. I guess it's possible I just overall started serving better by working more on my serve, but I doubt.


I can't stress enough the importance of lead on EXO Tours -without any lead and poor string choice it's a very mediocre, unstable frame, but with lead it's really the best thing since sliced bread for me.

The sharp POP from ADP and the silky smooth feel of Tours are very different, both their own flavor that takes time to get used to. After 3-4 months I feel very much at home with the Tours - a perfect blend of smooth comfort and feedback.
 

Fed Kennedy

Legend
Even though I felt the original rebel was a dog, I feel like Prince has refined their game a little and the new one might be verrry nice. If people are leading their 18x20 tours for more power, the new Rebel might be superrr awesome?
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
The new Rebel could be awesome for flatter hitters. I think the EXO tour is meant for heavier spin players. I have a buddy who hit super flat and just crushed with the older Rebel.

For me, a good spin racquet with power usually whips through the air at under 12 ozs and has a SW around 325-335.
 

beeveewee

New User
+1 on extra weight at 3 & 9 - 4 grams for me (2)1/4x4 @ 3 & (2)1/4x4 @ 9

tried several string setups already...

read the 'super low tension' discussion and tried big hitter blue rough at 35lbs... hated it.

best setup for me so far; black widow mains @ 54lbs, gosen 17 crosses @ 52lbs.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
Specs are in my sig....

Although I have lost some power due to the change... I have gained more comfort and versatility... I can make up that power loss due to the ease of swing... getting higher bat-speeds.

The nice 19mm beam.. coupled with a soft flex... and a tight (although more open compared to the PresMid) accepts the added weight perfectly and is not 'overpowering'.

NOTE: I tried lead at 12... but just like my experiences with other frames... is not for me... too much power... only flat-serves were 'easier'... I had to really exaggerate a top-spin stroke to keep the ball in... and I really prefer to hit out in front and flat.

Like your last NOTE, i almost do the same, except that i alternate between flat infront eastern forehands (to generate pace) and semi western on higher balls. When I want to gain some real power and net clearance, i sometimes stick to the semi western and brush more upward. With my 03 black, i have more success hitting in this manner. However, with my k-blade98, i have more success hitting flatter and more through the ball.

What I am wondering now, is what to expect from the exo tour.

After being on the 03 black for a while now, i was forced to play with the k-blade again this weekend. I had immediate directional control, more than that of the 03 black. I did however experience terrible feel...could be that i had to get used to the demanding aspect of this racket. With the serves, i had a significant power loss compared to the 03 black.

Now since the k-blade is relatively flexible...i am concerned that the exo tour will have the same difficulties when it comes to power. I dunno...i feel rather confused...cause there was a time that it felt like the blade was the perfect racket...maybe i just had to get used to the 03 black? It could also be that the cheap strings i have in the wilson at this stage, really contributed to the power loss. The power of the black however, has somehow shortened my backswing, which isn't always a bad thing.

Does anyone have any experience when comparing the wilson k-blade98 to the exo tour 100? Power and serves especially, since this seems to be the only real problem when it comes to the tour.

ps. TW gave the wilson a 77 rating...and the prince tour got a 79

They both have almost the exact swingweight:
wilson: 325
prince: 323
 

TheOneHander

Professional
Now since the k-blade is relatively flexible...

Does anyone have any experience when comparing the wilson k-blade98 to the exo tour 100? Power and serves especially, since this seems to be the only real problem when it comes to the tour.

First of all, the Blade isn't that flexible. It's a 67RA, which is comparable to an Aero Storm GT (another pretty stiff frame). Is it flexible compared to the Black? Yes, but you'll notice a lot more flex-and I mean a lot more-when you hit the Tour.

As for power, I just hit with a friend's Blade yesterday. The power level is comparable to the Tour, except the Tour is a lot more solid (and, of course, spin-friendly). Because of the spin and flex, though, I had the ability to place the ball much better than I did with the Blade. Serving, OTOH, is pretty easy with the Blade-it comes through the ball quickly and is pretty good for flat firsts. The Tour took me longer to adjust to, but it whips through contact really quickly now and offers me all the spin I need. I finally got flat serves dialed in with it as well, and while it is lower powered than the Blade is on serve, I can serve bigger and better with the Tour than I can with the Blade.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
First of all, the Blade isn't that flexible. It's a 67RA, which is comparable to an Aero Storm GT (another pretty stiff frame). Is it flexible compared to the Black? Yes, but you'll notice a lot more flex-and I mean a lot more-when you hit the Tour.

As for power, I just hit with a friend's Blade yesterday. The power level is comparable to the Tour, except the Tour is a lot more solid (and, of course, spin-friendly). Because of the spin and flex, though, I had the ability to place the ball much better than I did with the Blade. Serving, OTOH, is pretty easy with the Blade-it comes through the ball quickly and is pretty good for flat firsts. The Tour took me longer to adjust to, but it whips through contact really quickly now and offers me all the spin I need. I finally got flat serves dialed in with it as well, and while it is lower powered than the Blade is on serve, I can serve bigger and better with the Tour than I can with the Blade.

I think the blade really feels flexible to me cause, with this racket, i tend to hit higher up on the stringbed, where most movement can occur. It certainly feels like the most flexible frame i've played with outside of wood, alliminium or the 03 tour(previous gold racket).

After having had some success with my serve with the 03 black, the blade really felt weak in this department. I guess i need time to adapt...But I'm starting to think that the weak strings i put in the blade, really contributed to the lack in power also. It also seems as if generally, i play better with all my rackets once the strings has worn a bit. Why is this? Is my start off tension too high? (58-60)

I am convinced and have no doubt i will have a better second serve with the tour 100.... Maybe i will resort to accuracy being the main objective on the first - slicing and so forth...I guess you win some, you lose some with each and every racket on the market. Maybe i should not completely remove the exo black from the equasion either.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
If you try the blx version you'll notice the difference, but one of my kblades is also less stiff than the other.



I think the blade really feels flexible to me cause, with this racket, i tend to hit higher up on the stringbed, where most movement can occur. It certainly feels like the most flexible frame i've played with outside of wood, alliminium or the 03 tour(previous gold racket).

After having had some success with my serve with the 03 black, the blade really felt weak in this department. I guess i need time to adapt...But I'm starting to think that the weak strings i put in the blade, really contributed to the lack in power also. It also seems as if generally, i play better with all my rackets once the strings has worn a bit. Why is this? Is my start off tension too high? (58-60)

I am convinced and have no doubt i will have a better second serve with the tour 100.... Maybe i will resort to accuracy being the main objective on the first - slicing and so forth...I guess you win some, you lose some with each and every racket on the market. Maybe i should not completely remove the exo black from the equasion either.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
mxmx until you use the racquet, you are just wasting time going in circles. No one knows how you hit, what power level you hit at, what your game is like. I am not sure what to tell you, but I hate the K Blade compared to the EXO.

If you hit long in matches you will like the EXO. You may need to spend some time with the stick to get used to it, but it is a pleasurable experience. I forget why you have not ordered the racquet yet, but there is nothing more anyone can tell you about it until you actually use one.
 

jk175d

Semi-Pro
yup, 18x6. One with VS 17 mains at 54, MSV CoFocus 1.18 crosses at 47

the other Klip Legend 17 Mains at 53, Weiss Cannon Silverstring 17 crosses at 45

my favorite set-up for this frame.
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
7-8lb differences in main/cross tension. Understand the poly is probably stiffer than the gut even at lower tensions but does this size of tension differential have an impact on the frame?

Out of interest, do you use stringsavers?
 

jk175d

Semi-Pro
7-8lb differences in main/cross tension. Understand the poly is probably stiffer than the gut even at lower tensions but does this size of tension differential have an impact on the frame?

Out of interest, do you use stringsavers?

No impact that I can tell. I've been doing high differential hybrids for a long time. I put string savers in for the first time after I strung them up most recently. The Co-focus was cutting through the VS too fast. The Klip doesn't seem to need them, but I put them in anyway so both sticks would be the same in that regard.

The only reason I do the high differential is I really like poly so much more in the mid/upper 40s than 50s. And I think the gut is better off in mid 50s. Leaves me no choice :)
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
Had a chat with one of the Prince techs this afternoon.

Think I'm now going to go with either 50:44 or 52:46. Babolat stringsavers for sure as I'm going to use either BHBR or BHSR as the crosses. Also, I'm hoping that the stringsavers will help the mains slide and give me some of the spin back that I'm expecting to lose from leaving an a full poly bed.

Noticed that even playing at such low tensions recently, my elbow and forearm are starting to ache. Age, poly or both - not sure, but hopefully gut mains will help.
 

RyKnocks

Semi-Pro
Had a chat with one of the Prince techs this afternoon.

Think I'm now going to go with either 50:44 or 52:46. Babolat stringsavers for sure as I'm going to use either BHBR or BHSR as the crosses. Also, I'm hoping that the stringsavers will help the mains slide and give me some of the spin back that I'm expecting to lose from leaving an a full poly bed.

Noticed that even playing at such low tensions recently, my elbow and forearm are starting to ache. Age, poly or both - not sure, but hopefully gut mains will help.

Don't string savers make the string bed stiffer, hence causing the strings to slide less?
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
Babolat ones are made of ptfe/Teflon and my experience was that they help rather than hinder.

But - yes they do increase tension.
 

jk175d

Semi-Pro
Had a chat with one of the Prince techs this afternoon.

Think I'm now going to go with either 50:44 or 52:46. Babolat stringsavers for sure as I'm going to use either BHBR or BHSR as the crosses. Also, I'm hoping that the stringsavers will help the mains slide and give me some of the spin back that I'm expecting to lose from leaving an a full poly bed.

Noticed that even playing at such low tensions recently, my elbow and forearm are starting to ache. Age, poly or both - not sure, but hopefully gut mains will help.

Did you talk to the Prince guy specifically about main/cross tension differential? I'd be curious what he had to say about a 7-8lb difference.

I get as much spin or even more from the gut/poly hybrid as I do from full poly in the same stick.

As for string savers, having never used them before I decided to start with the Federer pattern starting on the 5th cross, but I am doing 3 crosses instead of just 2. This seems to cover the area where I was getting all the notching.
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
Did you talk to the Prince guy specifically about main/cross tension differential? I'd be curious what he had to say about a 7-8lb difference.

I get as much spin or even more from the gut/poly hybrid as I do from full poly in the same stick.

As for string savers, having never used them before I decided to start with the Federer pattern starting on the 5th cross, but I am doing 3 crosses instead of just 2. This seems to cover the area where I was getting all the notching.

7-8lb differential should be fine; shouldn't impact the integrity of the frame, but he wouldn't go too much further. I didn't ask directly, but I gathered that the higher the tensions the more of an issue it could be (common sense really).

Given the poly I'm planning to use, I think I will have to do to town on the stringsavers! Otherwise it's going to get very expensive, very quickly. I will also (probably) use some ptfe/Teflon based spray to to help the sliding; been doing it with the full poly beds and it's been working quite well. A little bit more hi-tech than WD40, although I've read that works very well too.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
OK folks I stumbled upon a GOAT setup for this racquet.

I previously had the stick setup with Black Magic mains and BAM crosses in the low 50s and dropping to the high 40s after a session. It was real nice, but way too much power, and my hands automatically adjust, so I was gripping very western to keep the ball in. My ideal grip is between SW and Western and I always noticed my grip going past that after a rally. As a result, I was hitting with too much spin and not through the ball as much as I prefer.

Tonight I strung up Big Hitter Silver 17 mains at 54 with Babolat N V crosses at 60#s. It came off the stringer at 57#s.
Wow..this changed everything for me. My strokes were back, and the power level was ridiculous. I was easily hitting as hard as I have with any other stick, but the spin was even better.

I am honeymooning with this setup, but this is the first one that blew me away in the EXO. It allows you to hit a little more SW so you can drive the ball when you want, but most importantly if you like to rip, this is just perfection. The feel is incredible, far better than full poly, and the spin and control was actually better for me. I wanted to hit all night.

I was back to picking my spots and hitting big when I needed to, instead of holding back a little.

Tennis nirvana.

BTW, the tension drop from right off the stringer to after 2 hours of hitting was 4 pounds. That is it.

I am out of regular silver and will try this setup on my other EXO with silver rough. The winner will be paired with the N V and I think I have found my personal GOAT setup, but very likely many of you will also fall in love as well.
 

edman9898

Professional
As much as I love this frame from the baseline, the mid range topspin approaches, serves, and volleys are KILLING me! I am trying 18 grams in the handle to try to get less pop and tame the power a bit. Hoping the HL balance will make it better on flat first serves and volleys. The is my last ditch effort to keep the frame! Right now I'm using Solinco TB 17 gauge at 60 lbs.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
^ The only set-up I've found that serves GREAT... and I mean on par, if not better, than my beloved PresMids... was...

Weight on the top of the hoop. I had 10gr evenly distributed from 9 o'clock through 12 o'clock and ending at 3. I counter-balanced this with weight inside the handle- around 10gr - 8inches up the handle.

I have ditched this set-up because.... (big surprise)... it lost the feel from the base-line. Too much power on tap. The swing weight was around 360sw and static around the same in grams. Despite these numbers, it was still quick through the air and swung itself, so-to-speak. It just turned into a completely different racquet. Volleys were super-solid as were approach shots.

Heavy kick serves are the answer ( and are quite automatic) if you want to keep the frame's base-line capabilities. Flat serves are few and far between and rarely will 'stick into the fence' as with other sticks. No problems here with volleys or approach shots.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I have to be honest, I am have just 2 grams of lead on 3 and 9 and the sticks serves just as big as any racquet I have owned.

The secret is to just let the racquet do the work and don't try to crush the ball. The EXO rewards a loose arm so much, that it is kind of surprising. So Klem, I believe you can have the EXO "swing itself" even at stock weight, it just takes practice. The EXO swings so light that it is super tempting to overswing and try to kill the ball. You want to just be nice and relaxed and stay loose. I believe the leaded up version made you do that. But with the racquet lighter, you still can, and the racquet head speed will be much greater.

I thought for sure that my serve pace would suck, but it is easily as good as with any other stick for me. The difference is the amount of spin is ridiculous.
 
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klementine

Hall of Fame
^ Are you referring to kick serves?... If so, I agree, no other racquet feels quite as good or produces higher %'s on heavy and 'just get it in' kickers with just as much pace as other frames.

But, flat serves are a different story.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
No I am referring to serves that are pretty much flat with just some standard side/top on them.

It really has not been a different story for me, but once again, I just rebuilt my serve and worked on really letting the racquet do the work. I hit the same spot on the fence off the bounce as with any other racquet I have had.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
I understand what you're trying to say. If you 'swerve a flat' serve in it definitely has a great combo of pace and spin.

But I just demo'd about 10 sticks side-by-side with my Xo's and all but 2 performed better on the straight-out flat serve. I'm talking about balls that stick into the fence, literally, where you have to pry them out of the fencing with your hands, not just hitting the fence.

including...
-IGPresMid
-BLXBlade98
-PDGT
-BLX9516x18
-YtPP
and others.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Yeah I still stick balls in the fence with the EXO at the same rate as the Prestige and Donnay Platinum (my 2 favorite serve sticks)

But I have really been working on my serve and changed up a lot of things. So I could possibly just be serving better now. Regardless since my wrist injury, my serve is slowly becoming something that I can use as a weapon again, and the EXO is not holding me back. So that is all that matters at the end of the day.

But, returning serves with the EXO is so much better than any other stick, my logic is if I can hold serve I am going to win the match, because I can break people a lot easier now with the EXO.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I should add that I believe a stiffer racquet should serve bigger.

But I also believe there is no reason you can not serve 100-120 with the EXO if you have a very good serve.

Well actually I know it because some pros use the retail model.

So my advice would be to just stay with it, because there is no perfect racquet, and if the EXO is killing from everywhere else the next stick you go to will be missing something else that you had prior with the EXO.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
mxmx until you use the racquet, you are just wasting time going in circles. No one knows how you hit, what power level you hit at, what your game is like. I am not sure what to tell you, but I hate the K Blade compared to the EXO.

If you hit long in matches you will like the EXO. You may need to spend some time with the stick to get used to it, but it is a pleasurable experience. I forget why you have not ordered the racquet yet, but there is nothing more anyone can tell you about it until you actually use one.

I don't agree that I'm totally wasting my time. I find it interesting to learn how rackets work and so forth....the extensive research I'm doing on this racket, does help me to get a good idea of what people tend to agree on about this racket. Not everyone has the same opinions about this racket and i believe more opinions than less, will eventually give a greater average on what is good or bad about this racket.

For example: i have heard like your above statement "it will take time to get used to the racket" from many people...I would not have believed this from just one or two opinions.

Believe me, I'm getting quite a bit of information that actually WILLhelp me. For example what to do if the racket feels too light. (I would not have considered lead until i read so many people saying why they did with this racket especially)
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
Don't string savers make the string bed stiffer, hence causing the strings to slide less?

I use wilson ones and they make a massive difference in the durability of strings. The wilson ones are rubbery and dont lift the strings as much, so the tension doesnt feel that high. I tend to put my string savers on later...when the strings are relatively warn. I do put quite a bit in though...as much as the size of my sweetspot, where most wear of my strokes occur. By this time my strings are looser, and the string savers move a little, but not overly much.
I also think wilson string savers are really soft and comfortable compared to the harder ones.

I have a feeling that the 18x20 pattern tour 100 won't be available in my region...I think i may have preferred this pattern, cause it will certainly be lighter on strings than the more open 16x18 pattern. It would have also been the first tight string patterned Prince i would have played with. Will see when stock arrives.
 
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mxmx

Hall of Fame
OK folks I stumbled upon a GOAT setup for this racquet.

I previously had the stick setup with Black Magic mains and BAM crosses in the low 50s and dropping to the high 40s after a session. It was real nice, but way too much power, and my hands automatically adjust, so I was gripping very western to keep the ball in. My ideal grip is between SW and Western and I always noticed my grip going past that after a rally. As a result, I was hitting with too much spin and not through the ball as much as I prefer.

I have the same experience with my o3 black. The power of the racket is too much for flatter low spin strokes that tend to go long. I have noticed my grip adjusting from eastern, to semi western on the forehand.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
I have to be honest, I am have just 2 grams of lead on 3 and 9 and the sticks serves just as big as any racquet I have owned.

The secret is to just let the racquet do the work and don't try to crush the ball. The EXO rewards a loose arm so much, that it is kind of surprising. So Klem, I believe you can have the EXO "swing itself" even at stock weight, it just takes practice. The EXO swings so light that it is super tempting to overswing and try to kill the ball. You want to just be nice and relaxed and stay loose. I believe the leaded up version made you do that. But with the racquet lighter, you still can, and the racquet head speed will be much greater.

I thought for sure that my serve pace would suck, but it is easily as good as with any other stick for me. The difference is the amount of spin is ridiculous.

I was wondering how one lets the racket do the work.

My recent experience has been to loosen my grip a little on the handle, especially before actual contact. Is this correct?
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Well another way to look at it, you could also just not muscle the ball. Swing loose..especially on serve. This is when the racquet really shines IMO. Whenever you get the racquet, definitely try the N vy crosses. The 16 gauge adds control and pop to the stick. I have zero power issues. Winners were very easy to hit.

I think what happens is some people string low tension poly and are having trouble finishing points off since they can't drive the ball as much, so they think the EXO is low powered. But with the synth gut cross at around 58-60#s and a poly at around 53 or so, power will not be an issue.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
Well another way to look at it, you could also just not muscle the ball. Swing loose..especially on serve. This is when the racquet really shines IMO. Whenever you get the racquet, definitely try the N vy crosses. The 16 gauge adds control and pop to the stick. I have zero power issues. Winners were very easy to hit.

I think what happens is some people string low tension poly and are having trouble finishing points off since they can't drive the ball as much, so they think the EXO is low powered. But with the synth gut cross at around 58-60#s and a poly at around 53 or so, power will not be an issue.

It is a shame and ironic that my serve is better now than it has ever been, partially due to the prince...Technique aside, i doubt that the 03 tour will generate more power than any of the prince black rackets. Unless when adding lead.

But i compared the power levels (based on prince's power units) of the 03black team to the exo3tour100 specs...the black has a 975 power level compared to the 825 of the tour. The difference is less than i expected.
I expected it to be in the 700's like the 03 tour.

Why isn't there a consistent power chart system out there that all rackets can be tested on? Surely it is measurable if every company stuck to the rules? Just like cars have Kw's..why can all rackets not have the same power level measurements? If there was a standard machine with a robotic arm hitting a attached rubber ball with a arm and sensor or something?
Or at least TW can test all their rackets with the same tests mechanically?
If swingweight can be tested, surely power levels can be also?

At least with prince one can compare the various models against each other based on their own chart...
:)
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
The EXO is so unique for me. It gives you more power when you just get loose and play properly. Most stiffer racquets gives you power even if you are arming it. That may be why it is tough to accurately measure.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
But my point is that someone with perfect technique, will probably gain more power with one of the rackets above the other?

With the exo tour i believe the head speed will be more, but the plough through far less...So on flatter served one will probably not have the same pace, but with spin serves, more kick. I will see wether lead will be needed, or wether the stock racket has enough plough through.

Edit: I see that the exo tour has a higher twistweight than the blade....which is good i assume...
 
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kyofu

New User
for those who have demoed both racquets,i heard that the 18x20 has more control and there is no noticeable difference in spin from the 16x18..is that right?
 

tennismonkey

Semi-Pro
haven't tried the exo3 tour 16x18 but i have the exo3 tour 18x20. i came from the ozone tour 16x18 and the o3 tour 16x18.

the exo3 tour 18x20 has less spin and less power. but it has a lot more control. groundies, serve, and especially volleys and touch shots are all a great deal more controlled.

i think it's important to note that the 18x20 pattern on the exo3 tour isn't really that "dense". it's as "open" a string pattern as a 16x19 on a 98 square inch racquet.
 

louis19

New User
I'm demoing the EX03 Tour and tried it for the first time tonight. I'm a 4.25 and love cranking heavy topspin forehands from the baseline. My first impressions of the stick is that it's like a weapon -- it's deadly when you catch it right on, but disastrous on mis hits. A big part of the reason may be because I'm used to a hybrid poly set up and the demo is strung with Gamma TNT -- not sure what tension.

I think that if I get the racquet and add a bit of lead tape and string it up with some poly (maybe midrange), I'll really like it. Do you think that will make a big difference?

Isnt that the exact same paragraph as what is written on the customer reviews? haha
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
Played today with my new setup. VS16mains and BHBR crosses 52/46lb. Lead at 3 and 9.

Power, control ...Unbelievable! Spin is still very good but not as good as the all poly setup. Still can't have it all.

Getting my 2nd tour strung at 52/48.

Very, very happy!
 
I took mine to the post office and had them weighed. 12.5 oz. Extras are EXO3 vibe, tourna, 1/2 size white heat sleeve under a Babolat leather grip, and 4 4" lead strips at 3 and 9 (4g total). It feels a little heavy. Any idea how I may have changed the playing characteristics and specs of the racket?

To trim some weight, would the advice be to drop the leather and wrap synthetic replacements? Thanks.
 
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