Racket drop on 2 hander

[DeepTopspinToBackhand]

So as far as the unit turn, making contact in front, and following through I am doing well, however when I get in the position where the racket head is above the grip, am I supposed to keep a loose grip so I can let the racket drop, or pull with my right hand which will let the left wrist drop below the right (I'm a right hander)

 

[styksnstryngs]

Both, in a way. The wrists should be loose, but the right hand is pulling the buttcap forwards.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Both, in a way. The wrists should be loose, but the right hand is pulling the buttcap forwards.

Yeah this. That left arm is bent and useless in the backswing, so initial drop to slot is all right arm/hand.

 

[iChen]

Yeah this. That left arm is bent and useless in the backswing, so initial drop to slot is all right arm/hand.

I have my left arm straight and very loose, initial drop also right hand since it's my dominant hand.

 

[ByeByePoly]

I have my left arm straight and very loose, initial drop also right hand since it's my dominant hand.

This is what I mean. From this position, my left arm isn't even supporting weight of racquet (or if so, very minimally). The right arm supports the drop to the slot ... and then the left arm gets involved.

 

[StringSnapper]

This is what I mean. From this position, my left arm isn't even supporting weight of racquet (or if so, very minimally). The right arm supports the drop to the slot ... and then the left arm gets involved.

So basically the right arm initiates take back and racquet drop, and the left arm generates the power along with the core?

 

[Bender]

Just to give you a contrasting opinion, my takeback is 50-50 right and left arm, but the racquet drop and forward swing is like 90% left arm.

But I'm one of those rare types whose 2HBH is left arm dominant, so YMMV.

 

[StringSnapper]

Just to give you a contrasting opinion, my takeback is 50-50 right and left arm, but the racquet drop and forward swing is like 90% left arm.

But I'm one of those rare types whose 2HBH is left arm dominant, so YMMV.

see my post and article from JohnYanddel here:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2hbh-advice.613390/#post-12155219

interesting stuff - you must be somewhat ambidextrous and have the "left handed forehand"

 

[ByeByePoly]

So basically the right arm initiates take back and racquet drop, and the left arm generates the power along with the core?

I think the shoulders initiate the take back ... and then the right arm extends and supports the racquet in your take back position. I view the 2hbh as basically a 1hbh until the back of the swing/slot ... and from there it becomes a 2hbh hitting primarily with left arm/hand by contact.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Just to give you a contrasting opinion, my takeback is 50-50 right and left arm, but the racquet drop and forward swing is like 90% left arm.

But I'm one of those rare types whose 2HBH is left arm dominant, so YMMV.

Doesn't your left arm end up in that weak t-rex position like Nishikori above? That left arm is a bit player at that point. You need to tell your left arm to chill out until you get to the slot.

 

[Bender]

Doesn't your left arm end up in that weak t-rex position like Nishikori above? That left arm is a bit player at that point. You need to tell your left arm to chill out until you get to the slot. [emoji41]

My backhand is a basically choked up left handed two handed forehand.

It’s 50-50 for the takeback, but the moment I start swinging forward it’s mostly left hand driven.

It’s not unconventional, but it isn’t common either. Most people prefer to hit their two handers with a 50-50 split or right hand dominant.

Edit: also, my racquet at the end of the backhand takeback is more vertical, so it’s more like a forehand. I also often hit with a followthrough that finishes around the shoulder than over it (although the finish depends entirely on the shot I want to hit).

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[Bender]

see my post and article from JohnYanddel here:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2hbh-advice.613390/#post-12155219

interesting stuff - you must be somewhat ambidextrous and have the "left handed forehand"

Thanks for the post.

The link to John’s article isn’t working for me though. Maybe it’s just me?


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[StringSnapper]

Thanks for the post.

The link to John’s article isn’t working for me though. Maybe it’s just me?


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Hmm i just tried it again and it works for me

 

[Bender]

Hmm i just tried it again and it works for me

Just found out it was just this POS Tapatalk that wasn’t working


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[ByeByePoly]

see my post and article from JohnYanddel here:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2hbh-advice.613390/#post-12155219

interesting stuff - you must be somewhat ambidextrous and have the "left handed forehand"

That is the article that was the most helpful when I started learning the 2hbh. I have posted it here several times. I started trying straight/straight per Yandell's observation that most players coming from a pre-existing 1hbh would likely find it the easiest transition. I struggled with it, and made better progress with bent/straight. Now ... 2+ years later I can hit straight/straight messing around with ball machine, but prefer bent/straight. I can vary arm positions now ... (bent/bent, flex/flex, bent/straight, straight/straight) and still basically maintain the stroke. Not so with grip change. I hit cont/eastern ... and by simply rolling right hand from continental to bh eastern I blow up the stroke. My left hand grip change ... say to sw, doesn't blow it up, but I don't like it.

The $ is made from slot forward ... the rest is just foreplay.

 

[ByeByePoly]

My backhand is a basically choked up left handed two handed forehand.

It’s 50-50 for the takeback, but the moment I start swinging forward it’s mostly left hand driven.

It’s not unconventional, but it isn’t common either. Most people prefer to hit their two handers with a 50-50 split or right hand dominant.

Edit: also, my racquet at the end of the backhand takeback is more vertical, so it’s more like a forehand. I also often hit with a followthrough that finishes around the shoulder than over it (although the finish depends entirely on the shot I want to hit).

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"My backhand is a basically choked up left handed two handed forehand."

No it isn't. Your right arm weighs 8-10lbs. You aren't strong enough to hit a lh fh with 8+ extra lbs. I probably am ... but not you.

 

[ByeByePoly]

My backhand is a basically choked up left handed two handed forehand.

It’s 50-50 for the takeback, but the moment I start swinging forward it’s mostly left hand driven.

It’s not unconventional, but it isn’t common either. Most people prefer to hit their two handers with a 50-50 split or right hand dominant.

Edit: also, my racquet at the end of the backhand takeback is more vertical, so it’s more like a forehand. I also often hit with a followthrough that finishes around the shoulder than over it (although the finish depends entirely on the shot I want to hit).

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Need that Bender 2hbh video

From slot forward, my 2hbh is left arm/hand boosting the arm triangle rotation. The right arm (dom) starts to bend, the left arm extends as I'm getting after it with the left arm. But my left arm is adding to the arm triangle rotation momentum, not replacing it. Even with various arm positions (bent, flexed, straight) ... we all still have the arm triangle attached at the shoulders during the forward swing.

What is your position at contact? bent/straight?

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2hbh-advice.613390/#post-12155796

 

[ByeByePoly]

"My backhand is a basically choked up left handed two handed forehand."

No it isn't. Your right arm weighs 8-10lbs. You aren't strong enough to hit a lh fh with 8+ extra lbs. I probably am ... but not you.

BTW ... when I first read your post, I thought you said your bh is "basically a choke".